Fourth and ten

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No one has talked about it on this board, but when the vols were down by two scores, and did not go for it on fourth and ten I think that says it all about the confidence this team has in its offense.

The defense picked up on that too. They were emotionally exhausted and laid down.
 
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What was the deal with that fumble they had late in the game. When they reviewed it. The receiver caught the ball and got railroaded by 4-5 UGA players. Then he dropped the ball and they recovered. Did anyone see that one of the UGA players damn near ripped his head off with a facemask. What was that all about?
 
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Originally posted by USAF_Vol@Oct 9, 2005 8:29 AM
What was the deal with that fumble they had late in the game.  When they reviewed it.  The receiver caught the ball and got railroaded by 4-5 UGA players.  Then he dropped the ball and they recovered.  Did anyone see that one of the UGA players damn near ripped his head off with a facemask.  What was that all about?
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I did not understand a lot of the calls that were made. That could have easily been ruled down by foward progress. Yes they clearly were trying to tear his head off of his shoulders.
 
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I think the defense was not only emotionally exhuasted but physically as well!
 
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we should have gone for it. our whole defense was dead. they are on the field the whole game.
 
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That punt return killed the spirits of any comeback. You fight that hard on defense to keep it at a one possession game and that happens. It really takes the air out of the sails.
 
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what kills me is if the offense was w/ another oc, they would probably be pretty good.
 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 9, 2005 8:47 AM
I did not understand a lot of the calls that were made.  That could have easily been ruled down by foward progress. Yes they clearly were trying to tear his head off of his shoulders.
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That's right, they were trying to rip his head off. They were making a statement, don't catch a ball in our area, were are going to make you pay. That's called intimatation factor. It is something our team lacks. We don't punish anybody, we just try to knock them down or push them down. We don't send a message of fear.That has to come from coaching. You can do it and still have discipline on a team.
 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 9, 2005 8:22 AM
No one has talked about it on this board, but when the vols were down by two scores, and did not go for it on fourth and ten I think that says it all about the confidence this team has in its offense.

The defense picked up on that too.  They were emotionally exhausted and laid down.
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100% agree. Down by a bunch with (?) 5 minutes on the clock and punt it away? No. Last I checked, if a "W" is a "W," then an "L" is an "L." If you don't make the first down, you lose. If you punt it away, you lose. What's the difference? You have to go for it there and give the guys a chance.

I get the feeling that this team, for whatever reason, is playing to "not lose." From the QB choice to the playcalling, it's evident that we don't have the balls to let it rip.

To the coaches: we all planned an entire weekend around the biggest home game of the year, endured 3 miserable quarters of football, and have stuck with the Vols through some pretty rough times this season. At least give us a chance to win, you know?
 
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This staff refuses to do anything (go for it on 4th and 10 or a fake punt) to get the momentum back for us. I really wish we would fake a punt or run a flea flicker or something every once in a while to give us a shot in the arm. But in all reality our offense would just screw that up too.
 
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I think that would just serve to give all of us "over 50" crowd reason for needing CPR!!!
 
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I said it a couple of weeks ago and now I know. My question was "for how long do you think the defense is going to remain stellar when the offense continues to not hold its own part of the deal? My hat is off to the defense. They played as hard as could be expected short of the multiple third and long conversions. The defense has no respect and absolutely no faith in the offense at all. Regardless of how hard they play, they now know that there is not going to be an offensive effort anywhere close to what it is going to take to beat a serious opponent. Our defense will not be the same for the rest of the year.
 
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Originally posted by obxvol@Oct 9, 2005 1:34 PM
I said it a couple of weeks ago and now I know. My question was "for how long do you think the defense is going to remain stellar when the offense continues to not hold its own part of the deal? My hat is off to the defense. They played as hard as could be expected short of the multiple third and long conversions. The defense has no respect and absolutely no faith in the offense at all. Regardless of how hard they play, they now know that there is not going to be an offensive effort anywhere close to what it is going to take to beat a serious opponent. Our defense will not be the same for the rest of the year.
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That and we lost Jason Allen.
 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 9, 2005 9:22 AM
No one has talked about it on this board, but when the vols were down by two scores, and did not go for it on fourth and ten I think that says it all about the confidence this team has in its offense.

The defense picked up on that too.  They were emotionally exhausted and laid down.
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That was ridiculous. especially considering how wasted our defense was
 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 9, 2005 8:22 AM
No one has talked about it on this board, but when the vols were down by two scores, and did not go for it on fourth and ten I think that says it all about the confidence this team has in its offense.
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We have a better chance of scoring on Defense...
 
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Originally posted by Jmxvol@Oct 9, 2005 4:24 PM
We have a better chance of scoring on Defense...
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:lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove:

I was actually thinking about that during the game. But I knew it would take another fumble.
 
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Not going for it right there was a little mystifying. Down by two touchdowns with 6 minutes to go, I really thought he was going to go for it.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 9, 2005 4:31 PM
Not going for it right there was a little mystifying.  Down by two touchdowns with 6 minutes to go, I really thought he was going to go for it.
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I think that was the white flag, and may have influenced the punt coverage just a little.
 
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Doesn't mean the special teams are going in the right direction. I was impressed with Britton last night.
 
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Britton had a good game. I do wish he could have kept some balls out of the endzone, but he just didn't get the bounces.

 
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There are a couple of problems with hoping that our defense would score after that punt.

1. UGA wouldn't pass the ball and I doubt the RB's would have coughed it up.

2. In order to get to the defensive part, you have to go through our special teams. The LSU game showed that it was only a matter of time before someone ran one back on us.

Britton did a fairly good job but I wasn't impressed with that line drive that he kicked to set up the return for the TD. Hopefully he will continue to work on getting that ball up in the air a little more.
 
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Oct 9, 2005 11:51 AM
This staff refuses to do anything (go for it on 4th and 10 or a fake punt) to get the momentum back for us. I really wish we would fake a punt or run a flea flicker or something every once in a while to give us a shot in the arm. But in all reality our offense would just screw that up too.
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I've wondered at times...is CPF really that old school conservative.....or does he simply coach not to lose, instead of coaching to win? :ninja:
 
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Originally posted by dan4vols@Oct 9, 2005 6:56 PM
I've wondered at times...is CPF really that old school conservative.....or does he simply coach not to lose, instead of coaching to win? :ninja:
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I would say both.
 
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