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I can’t talk to cops man, I go insane with rage
Have you sought counseling for this? Truly bad cops are few and far between. Most of them have been conditioned to respond as they do because of who they deal with. Unless it's worth dying over just comply and move on. If you think you were wronged lawyer up and sue.

Now if it's worth dying over them all bets are off.
 
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Oh, another lawsuit. Glad I never had an interest in joining law enforcement.
I got my level of distrust for cops. But it isn't law enforcement per se that's the problem. It's their disinterest in the ethical and intelligent screening of recruits. The backgrounds of most recruits is almost an open book these days with cameras and audio devices everywhere, social media, and old fashion interviews with people who knew them over the years. It's as if PDs are actively preferring the dredges of society with an aptitude for mindless violence, having a god complex, self-control issues, and people who think 2+2 = 14 2/10. I've encountered enough cops to know that a good number of them who simply aren't paid enough for the fine job they do. Who at times go well beyond what I think is their job description, some of which I've been personally the beneficiary thereof. And too many who have no business with a badge, uniform and gun.
Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops

{Now watch what happens with the cops are never wrong crowd.}
 
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Cops don’t do bad things.
I feel like the blue font is heavily implied in this statement... I feel like Im gonna be ambushed for saying it but here it goes; in my experience it seems that control freaks flock to law enforcement and the military, just like pedophiles flock to churches and schools. Sue me if I'm wrong.
 
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I feel like the blue font is heavily implied in this statement... I feel like Im gonna be ambushed for saying it but here it goes; in my experience it seems that control freaks flock to law enforcement and the military just like pedophiles flock to churches and schools. Sue me if I'm wrong.
Bad apples in every orchard man. broad stereotypes aren't a good look.
 
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Bad apples in every orchard man. broad stereotypes aren't a good look.
It isn't a broad stereotype. It's been proven time and again that pedophiles flock to jobs and hobbies that give them easy access and authority over children. It's being studied and proven now that type A assholes/authoritarian control freaks seek out jobs that give them control, with minimum oversight, over other human beings, i.e. police, military, guards, etc. It's not a generalized statement sir. Do a little research and get back to me.

Is every cop a sadist looking to exert their control over every human they meet? Of course not. Does a larger number of the population than not go for the type of jobs that would give them this freedom to exert their will over others? You'd be foolish to think otherwise. But what do I know? It's not like I'm a psychologist or anything...
 
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IF you watched the video, tell me How the Hell the Cop was supposed to handle an obvious Degenerate gas huffing idiot? Have you ever been around someone who huffed gas? Uncontrollable! Back in the day, he would have had a night stick to the head. I think Orta showed plenty of restraint. This "I'm a victim" mentality has led us to Police Officers Afraid to even do their jobs. If you condone that, welcome to the Wild Wild West; All over again. (which is where we are now btw) You CANNOT have a decent society without Law Enforcement and the FEAR of laws being enforced. And finally; if you call 911 for help, you'd better hope you don't get a WUSSIE Policeman.
 
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Have you sought counseling for this? Truly bad cops are few and far between. Most of them have been conditioned to respond as they do because of who they deal with. Unless it's worth dying over just comply and move on. If you think you were wronged lawyer up and sue.

Now if it's worth dying over them all bets are off.
My quote was actually from That 70s Show, but can see how you took it seriously and went all PC on me. I actually support the guys in blue.
 
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IF you watched the video, tell me How the Hell the Cop was supposed to handle an obvious Degenerate gas huffing idiot? Have you ever been around someone who huffed gas? Uncontrollable! Back in the day, he would have had a night stick to the head. I think Orta showed plenty of restraint. This "I'm a victim" mentality has led us to Police Officers Afraid to even do their jobs. If you condone that, welcome to the Wild Wild West; All over again. (which is where we are now btw) You CANNOT have a decent society without Law Enforcement and the FEAR of laws being enforced. And finally; if you call 911 for help, you'd better hope you don't get a WUSSIE Policeman.
who's fault is it those wussie officers exist?
 
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It isn't a broad stereotype. It's been proven time and again that pedophiles flock to jobs and hobbies that give them easy access and authority over children. It's being studied and proven now that type A assholes/authoritarian control freaks seek out jobs that give them control, with minimum oversight, over other human beings, i.e. police, military, guards, etc. It's not a generalized statement sir. Do a little research and get back to me.

Is every cop a sadist looking to exert their control over every human they meet? Of course not. Does a larger number of the population than not go for the type of jobs that would give them this freedom to exert their will over others? You'd be foolish to think otherwise. But what do I know? It's not like I'm a psychologist or anything...
I agree that some people with those tendencies would seek opportunities to further their desires, I just don't see it as every person with those aforementioned character flaws would do that. The way that you state this it seems to imply that most cops are control freaks which is just not the case, just like people that work with children aren't all pedophiles either, I would argue that a very small percentage are in fact. Just my opinion though. Unfortunately for me the media only covers when a child gets molested and not the other millions of other times on any given day that they aren't. Its all good though. Good day sir.
 
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I agree that some people with those tendencies would seek opportunities to further their desires, I just don't see it as every person with those aforementioned character flaws would do that. The way that you state this it seems to imply that most cops are control freaks which is just not the case, just like people that work with children aren't all pedophiles either, I would argue that a very small percentage are in fact. Just my opinion though. Unfortunately for me the media only covers when a child gets molested and not the other millions of other times on any given day that they aren't. Its all good though. Good day sir.
It's not exactly a small percent, Jett. Studies have shown people affiliated with hate groups for the past 10 -12 years have infiltrated PDs nationwide. Right up to being promoted to chiefs and other authority positions. The good cops must now go along with what's happening or shut up, otherwise, be fired, character smeared, harassed until they quit, receive false reports in their files which hinders being hired elsewhere, and at times be assaulted or threatened along with their families. But because of the power PDs wield, we rarely or don't get this in the news. When that New York mayor who has a mix raced dared to mention he had concerns about the boy's safety given cop behavior in the city, cops turned their backs on him at a funeral. You can bet they will also be uncooperative with him as long as he's in office. This and worse happens to anyone in or out of the system who dare to speak up about police misconduct. Added to this is we're just now beginning to not just realize that cops are involved in it but the sheer numbers of cops involved in kiddie porn. Now, to be fair, it isn't just cops. Our society overall has eroded until we are practically morally bankrupt on all levels. Whether it's the clergy, teachers, doctors, elder care workers, and what not. Just to illustrate, I added the below links. I will not respond to further question or comments as I have already strayed far way the thread topic as have you and 1-2 others. So I'm not testing Freak's tolerance any further than I have.

1. Mayor’s office denies NYPD officers turned their backs on de Blasio at police funeral
2. Florida police arrest 277, including cops and doctors, in sex sting
 
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It's not exactly a small percent, Jett. Studies have shown people affiliated with hate groups for the past 10 -12 years have infiltrated PDs nationwide. Right up to being promoted to chiefs and other authority positions. The good cops must now go along with what's happening or shut up, otherwise, be fired, character smeared, harassed until they quit, receive false reports in their files which hinders being hired elsewhere, and at times be assaulted or threatened along with their families. But because of the power PDs wield, we rarely or don't get this in the news. When that New York mayor who has a mix raced dared to mention he had concerns about the boy's safety given cop behavior in the city, cops turned their backs on him at a funeral. You can bet they will also be uncooperative with him as long as he's in office. This and worse happens to anyone in or out of the system who dare to speak up about police misconduct. Added to this is we're just now beginning to not just realize that cops are involved in it but the sheer numbers of cops involved in kiddie porn. Now, to be fair, it isn't just cops. Our society overall has eroded until we are practically morally bankrupt on all levels. Whether it's the clergy, teachers, doctors, elder care workers, and what not. Just to illustrate, I added the below links. I will not respond to further question or comments as I have already strayed far way the thread topic as have you and 1-2 others. So I'm not testing Freak's tolerance any further than I have.

1. Mayor’s office denies NYPD officers turned their backs on de Blasio at police funeral
2. Florida police arrest 277, including cops and doctors, in sex sting
Agreed. Good information.
 

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