Forever Skies (PS5, Xbox Series X/S, PC) Coming 2022

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I wish I could get into FPS’s more. I lived off the Halo, Destiny, COD, Fallout, and Far Cry games for so long that they all just feel like the same game with different skins at this point.
 
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Could be a winner. Hard to tell from that trailer. They're going to have to do something special with a post apocalyptic setting to get me interested though. It's just been done to death.
 
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They are trying to beat Bethesda to the punch. I can promise you starfield will be better. This could itch the scratch until it's released tho.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
They are trying to beat Bethesda to the punch. I can promise you starfield will be better. This could itch the scratch until it's released tho.
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I'm sure it will be before it's a over. Hard to say what Starfield will be at launch though. New Vegas was a mess for a like a year before it became everyone's favorite Fallout game.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
They are trying to beat Bethesda to the punch. I can promise you starfield will be better. This could itch the scratch until it's released tho.
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Excited for Starfield, but the Cyberpunk fiasco was it for me as far as trusting any developer. Bethesda isnt really batting 1.000 right now either.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
I'm sure it will be before it's a over. Hard to say what Starfield will be at launch though. New Vegas was a mess for a like a year before it became everyone's favorite Fallout game.
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To be fair, Bethesda wasn’t the developer of NV. They were the Publisher, but if I remember correctly they didn’t really have but maybe a few hands on the game.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Excited for Starfield, but the Cyberpunk fiasco was it for me as far as trusting any developer. Bethesda isnt really batting 1.000 right now either.
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I’m quite excited for Starfield. I am sure there will be some issues in the beginning as there always will be, but I’m still going to play day 1. Cyberpunk I was interested in but only mildly. The story and world of the game is not really the type I enjoy. What really threw up all of the red flags were the consistent push backs. As soon as the second one happened I new it was going have a ton of issues after launch. And the amount of hype that was generated for that game it was just destined to fail.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
To be fair, Bethesda wasn’t the developer of NV. They were the Publisher, but if I remember correctly they didn’t really have but maybe a few hands on the game.
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Obsidian Entertainment made New Vegas. They also made The Outer Worlds and Grounded.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
I’m quite excited for Starfield. I am sure there will be some issues in the beginning as there always will be, but I’m still going to play day 1. Cyberpunk I was interested in but only mildly. The story and world of the game is not really the type I enjoy. What really threw up all of the red flags were the consistent push backs. As soon as the second one happened I new it was going have a ton of issues after launch. And the amount of hype that was generated for that game it was just destined to fail.
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Before the Cyberpunk mess, CD Project Red was above reproach and considered one of the best studios out there. Just saying Starfield has the same hype and hope it doesn’t fail to meet them the way Cyberpunk did. They have supposedly been making this Starfield game forever, so just hoping it doesn’t fall into the same overglorified and severely underperforming products we now only seem to get from AAA.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Before the Cyberpunk mess, CD Project Red was above reproach and considered one of the best studios out there. Just saying Starfield has the same hype and hope it doesn’t fail to meet them the way Cyberpunk did. They have supposedly been making this Starfield game forever, so just hoping it doesn’t fall into the same overglorified and severely underperforming products we now only seem to get from AAA.
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Yeah I'm not really understanding the excitement over Starfield when all we've seen is a CGI trailer and no gameplay. I hope it's better than Fallout 4 and Fallout 76, as both of those were very underwhelming imo.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
To be fair, Bethesda wasn’t the developer of NV. They were the Publisher, but if I remember correctly they didn’t really have but maybe a few hands on the game.
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True, but it was Bethesda's engine and based heavily on Fallout 3. It's not like Obsidian started from scratch on the development. Lord knows other Bethesda games have had issues at launch too. Oblivion was a mess and even Skyrm had some weird early bugs on day 1. Bethesda makes great games but people tend to forget the early hiccups because their games have such staying power. Also they are under new ownership, it's thier first original IP in forever, and in a new genre for them. Their are a lot of variables at work. I have no doubt Starfield will be a banger of a game. But, I bet it'll be buggy at launch.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Before the Cyberpunk mess, CD Project Red was above reproach and considered one of the best studios out there. Just saying Starfield has the same hype and hope it doesn’t fail to meet them the way Cyberpunk did. They have supposedly been making this Starfield game forever, so just hoping it doesn’t fall into the same overglorified and severely underperforming products we now only seem to get from AAA.
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People forget that The Witcher 3 had issues early on. It became arguably greatest game of the generation, because of the amazing support CPR gave it. But it was far from perfect to start. Games like it and Elder Scrolls/Fallout are so complex that it's almost unavoidable. I don't buy games like it for 6 months - a year after the jump, for that very reason.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
People forget that The Witcher 3 had issues early on. It became arguably greatest game of the generation, because of the amazing support CPR gave it. But it was far from perfect to start. Games like it and Elder Scrolls/Fallout are so complex that it's almost unavoidable. I don't buy games like it for 6 months - a year after the jump, for that very reason.
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It had issues, but nothing compared to what Cyberpunk was. I’m hoping to get back to it once they release the next gen patch, but they really screwed up the launch and there was a lot of lying and hiding or that.
 
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BearCat204 said:
It had issues, but nothing compared to what Cyberpunk was. I’m hoping to get back to it once they release the next gen patch, but they really screwed up the launch and there was a lot of lying and hiding or that.
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Cyberpunk didn't have "issues". It was a disaster. I'm not sure CPR can save it, no matter how much support they give it.

No Man's Sky and Final Fantasy 14 did it. But it took years and they are different sorts of games.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Before the Cyberpunk mess, CD Project Red was above reproach and considered one of the best studios out there. Just saying Starfield has the same hype and hope it doesn’t fail to meet them the way Cyberpunk did. They have supposedly been making this Starfield game forever, so just hoping it doesn’t fall into the same overglorified and severely underperforming products we now only seem to get from AAA.
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Not really seeing much hype for Starfield, to be honest. Most people that I know I’ve had to explain what it is. I fully expect games to come out with issues anymore. That’s practically built into the game-making process. With how much goes into games now-a-days these game makers can’t find everything and so rely on the gamers to find these bugs. Some take way more liberty with it (Ubisoft) than others, though.
 
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JCHateSteve said:
True, but it was Bethesda's engine and based heavily on Fallout 3. It's not like Obsidian started from scratch on the development. Lord knows other Bethesda games have had issues at launch too. Oblivion was a mess and even Skyrm had some weird early bugs on day 1. Bethesda makes great games but people tend to forget the early hiccups because their games have such staying power. Also they are under new ownership, it's thier first original IP in forever, and in a new genre for them. Their are a lot of variables at work. I have no doubt Starfield will be a banger of a game. But, I bet it'll be buggy at launch.
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See me post above this one for a lot of my answer to this one. Bethesda games do have bugs. With how big Oblivion and Skyrim were your only asking for them to be there. Cyberpunk was on another level like you said earlier. Complete devastation that will always haunt it for years to come. No Man’s Sky is one heck of a story. They have such a huge and loyal fanbase now. I wish we had more developers that were as invested in some of their IPs as No Mans Sky’s. In no way am I trying to give a pass to Bethesda, though.

Also, I think Starfield being a completely new genre for Bethesda is one of the reasons I am looking forward to playing it.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
See me post above this one for a lot of my answer to this one. Bethesda games do have bugs. With how big Oblivion and Skyrim were your only asking for them to be there. Cyberpunk was on another level like you said earlier. Complete devastation that will always haunt it for years to come. No Man’s Sky is one heck of a story. They have such a huge and loyal fanbase now. I wish we had more developers that were as invested in some of their IPs as No Mans Sky’s. In no way am I trying to give a pass to Bethesda, though.

Also, I think Starfield being a completely new genre for Bethesda is one of the reasons I am looking forward to playing it.
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I think Starfield will be fantastic. Microsoft's purchase of Bethesda is a major reason I plan to go Xbox this gen. It just scares me to see Bethesda getting held up like a golden calf after the Cyberpunk fiasco. I can just see that it game getting dragged like it's the same, when every noticeable bug will likely be ironed out in 6-12 months.

Games getting put out unfinished, with(or because) of the hype, is a problem these days. I see hype for Starfield form gamers currently on Playstation. That's magnified by it being a tentpole of all the money Microsoft has spent buying studios.

I guess I'm just trying to temper expectations.
 
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I think you guys are putting an awful lot of blind faith into Starfield without knowing very much about it or seeing one second of gameplay. If you're basing your excitement on Bethesda's track record, ehhh...Fallout 4 and Fallout 76, their last two projects, weren't exactly amazing and it's been a loooong time since Skyrim first came out. It very well may turn out to be amazing but I would like to at least see It running on an Xbox before we declare it GOTY. LOL!
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I think you guys are putting an awful lot of blind faith into Starfield without knowing very much about it or seeing one second of gameplay. If you're basing your excitement on Bethesda's track record, ehhh...Fallout 4 and Fallout 76, their last two projects, weren't exactly amazing and it's been a loooong time since Skyrim first came out. It very well may turn out to be amazing but I would like to at least see It running on an Xbox before we declare it GOTY. LOL!
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Nobody is calling it GOTY. Just because we are excited doesn’t mean that we think it’s automatically going to blow everything else out of the water. Our excitement comes from what we’ve listed in previous posts and not in a huge fanboy way. There’s different levels of excitement and I’d say that JCHateSteve and I both have a healthy level of it.

As for unhealthy level of excitement I’m not sure any other game comes close to the level Cyberpunk reached lol
 
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zhangliao04 said:
Nobody is calling it GOTY. Just because we are excited doesn’t mean that we think it’s automatically going to blow everything else out of the water. Our excitement comes from what we’ve listed in previous posts and not in a huge fanboy way. There’s different levels of excitement and I’d say that JCHateSteve and I both have a healthy level of it.

As for unhealthy level of excitement I’m not sure any other game comes close to the level Cyberpunk reached lol
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You're right. I was being hyperbolic. I just meant that while I'm certainly interested in knowing more about Starfield and seeing actual gameplay I don't understand where the "excitement" is coming from given how little we even know or have seen about the game. Ilovedoubled's said "I can promise you Starfield will be better" when comparing it to Forever Skies. Well...OK. What is that based on exactly? Besides the fact that both games take place in outer space, are they even similar enough to each other to warrant comparison at all?
 
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