As a somewhat new member and poster here, I thought I'd throw a couple cents worth of my humble opinion in this fray. First; I am a member of several scuba forums and there are several trainwrecks/meltdowns on those forums regarding philoshophies, techniques, equipment configurations, etc. In those forums, the "Negateers" are "Dive Gods" who dived during the old days and the "Sunshine Pumpers" are called "Strokes" who don't adhere to the Dive Gods' vision of what divers should be. So it appears to me that this a phenomenom that is not unique to just the VN. With that said, both camps are basically, as alluded to by a previous poster; somewhat a critic. I look at critics as nothing more than someone who gives their "opinion" of a product, good or bad. I have watched many crappy movies and eaten some atrocious meals based on rave reviews by critics based on their "expert" opinion. I have also had the opposite. Mind you those reviews by the "experts" have been based on actually seeing or trying the product beforehand. It appears that many of the critics here are giving their reviews before seeing or experiencing the product. I do understand that the recent coaching hire and recruiting phase has helped some of those critics make these reviews, but; again to use the movie example;; there have been many busts and winners regardless of the all-star casts, no names, award winning producers, or first timers. I will reserve my review until after I see the product and the "setup" for the sequels. My prediction (hopes) for this year: A positive winning percentage, maybe a game upset, and a bowl game we possibly win. I also think we will see a different attitude from the players on the field, and a coach who doesn't throw in the towel. JMO & GBO:thumbsup: