For the last time, why the SEC is the best conference...

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jakez4ut

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as if we needed more proof, we got it last night.

I'm not one of these SEC elitists out there always proclaiming the SEC is best regardless, i've called it when we were down, and we've been down recently, but there's not another conference that stands the test of time like the SEC does. there's not another conference that has as much top level comepetition like the SEC has. there's not another conf. that has 5 different coaches with national titles currenlty coaching in this league (Fulmer, Meyer, Miles, Saban and Spurrier).

but just for giggles, for anyone that still has questions as to why everyone thinks, eh, knows, the SEC is the best conf, here it is:

Competition with in the league. Moreover, it's the competition from the middle to the top that really makes it. people say we beat up on each other cause it's true. and in some leagues while that sounds nice, in this league, what that means is that 6-7 teams each year have a legit shot at the SEC title. and 6 times that champion has won an National title in the last 16 years (.375, think of it as a batting average). and thos 6 titles have come from 4 different teams (LSU twice, FL twice, Bama, TN).

there's simply not another conf. that has that kind of competition w/in it's own league.

Pac 10--USC and...............?
big 10--OSU and Mich..........
big 12--(this year not withstanding) OU and TX
Big East--WVU
ACC--FSU was the perrennial champ for over a decade, and now, the league is a hodge podge of mediocre teams.

sure there were upsets this year and good stories in KS, MO, SFl, UConn, Wake etc....but these things don't stand the test of time like the SEC does.

when a team or program or two dominate a league for extended periods of time, i think the case can be made that that is over all detrimental to that league. Look no further than the Big 12 and Big 10 for evidence. while the top of each league is very good, the 2nd tier is a long ways off. Not so in the SEC.

KY beat LSU. TN beat GA. GA beat FL. MSU beat Aub. Ark beat LSU. FL beat TN. SC beat GA. and these things happen every year. the phrase "anyone can win on any given Saturday" does hold true in the SEC. and it's not just the occaisional upset we're talking about here. when these things happen, conf. titles are on the line.

since the SEC split in to divisonal format 6 different teams have won the SEC: TN, FL, Bama, Aub, GA, LSU. 8 teams have appeared in the SEC title game, the only ones to not make an appearance: Vandy, KY, Ole Miss, Sout Carolina. 9 teams have at least won a share of the divison, the only ones to not do so: Vandy, KY and South Carolina. The only SEC team to not go to a bowl game over that time span is Vandy.

there's simply not another conf. that boasts that kind of competition year in and year out for tops in the league.

So when people talk about the SEC being the best, this is why. When people down play other leagues compared to the SEC this is why. When we say our strength of schedule is good because of the conf. games we play, this is why. when we say we're better than the Big 10, this is why. when you look at recruiting rankings and you see 6, 7 or 8 teams in the top 20 year in and year out, this is why. When you watch NFL games on Sunday and see NFL rosters littered with former SEC players, this is why. when we say winning the SEC title still means something, this is why.

there's a reason why Michigan, OSU don't get all that excited about conf. titles. they know what we know. it just isn't that big of a deal.

So, if you needed more proof, then you got it last night, but for the rest of us, we know it, we've always known it, and for the forseeable future, it will continue to be true. the big 10 has Mich/OSU. the big 12 has the red river shootout. The Pac 10 ahs "the game". the SEC has the Iron Bowl, the Third Saturday in October, the World's Largest Cocktail Party, the Oldest Rivalry in the South, the Egg Bowl.

and that doesn't even include games like TN/FL, TN/GA, FL/LSU, LSU/Bama, Aub/LSU, Aub/FL.....we have big games every weekend. everyone else has a big game once or twice a season. so to the rest of the college football world, i simply say......

S E C. S E C. S E C.

Here's to hoping we get back on top of it sooner than later. Go Vols, and congrats to the Bayou Bengals.
 
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Does anyone have the final Conference results from the bowl games? I think the SEC was 7-2. Not too shabby.
 
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Does anyone have the final Conference results from the bowl games? I think the SEC was 7-2. Not too shabby.

It was 7-2. I expected Arkansas was overmatched and was going to get clobbered by Missouri, but the Michigan win over Florida was a bit unexpected. Overall, I think the SEC performed exceedingly well in bowls this year.
 
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KY beat LSU. TN beat GA. GA beat FL. MSU beat Aub. Ark beat LSU. FL beat TN. SC beat GA. and these things happen every year. the phrase "anyone can win on any given Saturday" does hold true in the SEC. and it's not just the occaisional upset we're talking about here. when these things happen, conf. titles are on the line.

Tennessee beat Wisconsin, Michigan beat Florida, LSU beat OSU, Illinois beat OSU, Michigan beat Illinois. Anyone from any conference can win on any given Saturday (especially this year)
 
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Tennessee beat Wisconsin, Michigan beat Florida, LSU beat OSU, Illinois beat OSU, Michigan beat Illinois. Anyone from any conference can win on any given Saturday (especially this year)
i don't disagree, but like i said, what happens in the SEC isn't the occaisonal upset (Ill over OSU), it happens every year. that's the difference.
 
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i don't disagree, but like i said, what happens in the SEC isn't the occaisonal upset (Ill over OSU), it happens every year. that's the difference.

You're right. If you don't bring your A game to every game against an SEC opponent, you'll pay for it. That is even more prevalent now, as the separation from top to bottom is a hazy grey line.
 
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i don't disagree, but like i said, what happens in the SEC isn't the occaisonal upset (Ill over OSU), it happens every year. that's the difference.

True, I can still remember the last crappy team that stunned their league. Northwestern was a long time ago.
 
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Great stuff, but I thought Ole Miss did play in the title game with Eli. But, that just makes your argument stronger.
 
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LSU beat Ole Miss in 03 to go to the title game. Ole Miss beat Ok St in the cotton bowl that year. both finished with the same conf. record, LSU went to ATL with the head to head W.
 
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and 6 times that champion has won an National title in the last 16 years (.375, think of it as a batting average). and thos 6 titles have come from 4 different teams (LSU twice, FL twice, Bama, TN).

Should actually be seven in 16 years and five different teams. Don't forget the one that USC bought in 2004 at Auburn's expense.
 
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Good post.

I think OSU's scout.com messageboard knows this too. A sticky from the admin entitled something like: "To all of our SEC visitors" is threatening to ban the SEC fans coming on and letting them know this.

It's pretty funny actually.
 
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LSU beat Ole Miss in 03 to go to the title game. Ole Miss beat Ok St in the cotton bowl that year. both finished with the same conf. record, LSU went to ATL with the head to head W.

An Ole Miss lineman stepped on Eli's foot at the goalline tripping him up and ending their hopes to play in the SEC Championship game.
 
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What has happened to all the Ohio St. and Mich. fans that were on VolNation a few weeks ago talking all the trash? I suppose the Big 10 just had another "bad year".:wink2:
 
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I would like to see the mouthy schools swap schedules with an SEC school...let OSU and LSU swap and see what happens. Maybe Tennessee and Hawaii could swap and UT could slide into the BCS.

Slive referred to the SEC schedule as "the crucible", I think he is bang on.
 
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Jake, spot on and very long as usual. I think Droski fell asleep more to the length of the post than the content. Also it could simply be that the truth hurts and he'd rather ignore it.
 
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i thought this post said a lot:

You either don't get it or don't want to get it?? Anyway. The SEC puts its best team forward every year. They have two sides one team wins the East or West Division based on record Tenn beat Georgia and the two teams play and that is the SEC champ.
Still the point that Fowler is making is that OSU is one of the main problems holding up a legit championship game. It is selfish. The last two years proved that we did not deserve to be in the game. What Fowler is saying is that despite playing USC next year both teams if healthy will probably go the rest of the Season undefeated and they will both point to that game for strength of schedule arguement thus perpetuating the system.
What was interesting at the game LSU fans were chanting SEC SEC SEC they are proud of the conference they know being the SEC champ means something even if you are Auburn and go undefeated and don't even get to play. That looks silly at this point. Competition matters.

in fact, the thread it came from is fairly interesting....
Scout.com: Ohio State Forums List
 
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Jake, spot on and very long as usual. I think Droski fell asleep more to the length of the post than the content. Also it could simply be that the truth hurts and he'd rather ignore it.
i had a lot on my mind.:)
 

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