FL Gov. candidate Ron DeSantis "Lets not monkey this up" while referring to black opponent

[Persian Vol]

DeSantis Warns Florida Not to ‘Monkey This Up,’ and Many Hear a Racist Dog Whistle

In the interview with Fox News on the first day of the general election campaign, Mr. DeSantis, 39, who has President Trump’s support, attacked Mr. Gillum’s candidacy by painting him as a far-left socialist.

“The last thing we need to do is to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda with huge tax increases and bankrupting the state,” he said. “That is not going to work. That’s not going to be good for Florida.”

 

[IPleadInsanity]

Saying the word "socialist" in public is obscene. Should be stopped.

 

[BowlBrother85]

As far as your poll, you left out an option... He didn't mean it to be racist (and intent matters) but he still should have used another term when talking about the actions of a black man. Not very good judgment but not a big deal either.

 

[tumscalcium]

Good lord

 

[Orange_Crush]

He was not referring to the black man. He was referring to the election. You guys keep playing this card and you will completely destroy the Democratic party on the wires if America.

 

[TheDeeble]

Left out another choice there buddy.

 

[midnight orange]

What does it say when you backmask "Stairway to Heaven"?
Is it also racsist to presume that all references to lessor primates refer to African - Americans?

 

[BowlBrother85]

He was not referring to the black man. He was referring to the election. You guys keep playing this card and you will completely destroy the Democratic party on the wires if America.

This is melodrama. Not a big deal... but he should have used another term. It's not like "monkey this up" is something you hear every day. He could have said something else and still gotten his point across.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Left out another choice there buddy.

Ding ding ding. There either choice is, "never heard of the phrase and the fact that no one knows the definition works against the argument that we must know it to be racist".

 

[BowlBrother85]

Ding ding ding. There either choice is, "never heard of the phrase and the fact that no one knows the definition works against the argument that we must know it to be racist".

You're exactly right. It's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt. Still, this wasn't a very articulate thing to say. He could have made his point with something else.

 

[Orange_Crush]

This is melodrama. Not a big deal... but he should have used another term. It's not like "monkey this up" is something you hear every day. He could have said something else and still gotten his point across.

That's the l issue I take with modern society. It's ridiculous that we've come to the point in society that an entire segment of the population is disallowed using a common word because we must think the worst of that segment of the population if they do.

Bull. Take that crap elsewhere. I refuse to participate any longer.

If i am talking to a person of color that is doing something stupid at work, I can tell them not to throw a monkey wrench into it. If that guy got tongue tired speaking to the public and somehow blended a monkey wrench, eff it up reference in his head, I refuse to jump straight to racist.

I'm done with this new great society. It's like we're in 1984, witnessing the totalitarian control of people by shrinking the vocabulary. Wake up and get past it yourself, friend.

 

[Orange_Crush]

You're exactly right. It's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt. Still, this wasn't a very articulate thing to say. He could have made his point with something else.

I am a public speaker and have said more inarticulate things than I can list. I'll be dammed if I'm willing to be called racist because of brain farts.

The fact that the poll was listed as it is is more proof of the weak minds in our current landscape.

 

[tumscalcium]

DeSantis Warns Florida Not to ‘Monkey This Up,’ and Many Hear a Racist Dog Whistle

“Racist dog whistle” is right. Only racist people heard it or took it that way.

 

[BowlBrother85]

That's the l issue I take with modern society. It's ridiculous that we've come to the point in society that an entire segment of the population is disallowed using a common word because we must think the worst of that segment of the population if they do.

Bull. Take that crap elsewhere. I refuse to participate any longer.

If i am talking to a person of color that is doing something stupid at work, I can tell them not to throw a monkey wrench into it. If that guy got tongue tired speaking to the public and somehow blended a monkey wrench, eff it up reference in his head, I refuse to jump straight to racist.

I'm done with this new great society. It's like we're in 1984, witnessing the totalitarian control of people by shrinking the vocabulary. Wake up and get past it yourself, friend.

It's not just the word "monkey' that he said. He used it in a term with a very ambiguous context. You just said in another post that you aren't even sure what "monkey this up" means. I'm not either. That suggests that this was not an articulate thing to say. He could have used a commonly used term (which that isn't) and made his point better. If you read my posts here, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and don't think it's a big deal at all... but he still should have said something else.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I am a public speaker and have said more inarticulate things than I can list. I'll be dammed if I'm willing to be called racist because of brain farts.

The fact that the poll was listed as it is is more proof of the weak minds in our current landscape.

Oh, I find it hard to believe that such an elegant wordsmith as yourself would ever say anything inarticulate.

 

[zeppelin128]

As far as your poll, you left out an option... He didn't mean it to be racist (and intent matters) but he still should have used another term when talking about the actions of a black man. Not very good judgment but not a big deal either.

I was looking for the same option, not a big deal at all just a bad choice of words with a negative connotation. He should have been more articulate anyways, he is running for governor. I know Trump has lowered that standard considerably but people seeking office should be more articulate and have a sense of decorum.

 

[midnight orange]

It's not just the word "monkey' that he said. He used it in a term with a very ambiguous context. You just said in another post that you aren't even sure what "monkey this up" means. I'm not either. That suggests that this was not an articulate thing to say. He could have used a commonly used term (which that isn't) and made his point better. If you read my posts here, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and don't think it's a big deal at all... but he still should have said something else.

I'm sorry but to me that sounds extremely paternalistic and condescending to black people. It sounds like don't say "monkey"around blacks because they tend to get the wrong impression and don't take it very well.

 

[AirVol]

I’d bet DeSantis has used the N word within the last 30 years.

Screech

 

[Orange_Crush]

It's not just the word "monkey' that he said. He used it in a term with a very ambiguous context. You just said in another post that you aren't even sure what "monkey this up" means. I'm not either. That suggests that this was not an articulate thing to say. He could have used a commonly used term (which that isn't) and made his point better. If you read my posts here, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and don't think it's a big deal at all... but he still should have said something else.

My point is that, as a public speaker, I know what it's like to think ovlne think, try to day it, yet have some bastardized, unintended phrase come out, having no clue how it happened. You talk about what he should have done. He would most likely agree. But the news stories about a claim racist subliminally calling all three either racists to battle.

I suspect he probably curses like a sailor behind closed doors, in a public interview, his mind thought "**** it up", he mentally panicked, tried to change it to"throw a monkey wrench into this thing", and in the split second he had between brain and voice, "monkey it up" came out.

You say he should have said something else and, again I suspect he was trying to.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I'm sorry but to me that sounds extremely paternalistic and condescending to black people. It sounds like don't say "monkey"around blacks because they tend to get the wrong impression and don't take it very well.

No, that sounds like "don't say things such as 'monkey this up'" in reference to black people because it's not going to be clear to everyone what you mean. It's not a commonly used expression and it could be easily misinterpreted. It's not just the singular use of the word "monkey" that was inarticulate here. It simply is not clear what "monkey this up" means. There are multiple ways that such a phrase could be interpreted.

But look, I have said that I don't think it's a big deal and I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant no ill-intent.

 

[tumscalcium]

No, that sounds like "don't say things such as 'monkey this up'" in reference to black people because it's not going to be clear to everyone what you mean. It's not a commonly used expression and it could be easily misinterpreted. It's not just the singular use of the word "monkey" that was inarticulate here. It simply is not clear what "monkey this up" means. There are multiple ways that such a phrase could be interpreted.

But look, I have said that I don't think it's a big deal and I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant no ill-intent.

Ffs. You’re trying exceptionally hard to be LG today.

 

[midnight orange]

No, that sounds like "don't say things such as 'monkey this up'" in reference to black people because it's not going to be clear to everyone what you mean. It's not a commonly used expression and it could be easily misinterpreted. It's not just the singular use of the word "monkey" that was inarticulate here. It simply is not clear what "monkey this up" means. There are multiple ways that such a phrase could be interpreted.

But look, I have said that I don't think it's a big deal and I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant no ill-intent.

Thats what im saying is that it's condescending and paternalistic to jump on someone using the word monkey in any phrase that is not overtly rascist. Im not aware of anyone in my lifetime that uses monkey to refer to black people. The only place I've seen it mentioned is by the "The Memphis Flyer' and it's referred to in the movie "Mississippi Burning".

 

[SLICKYINC]

No, that sounds like "don't say things such as 'monkey this up'" in reference to black people because it's not going to be clear to everyone what you mean. It's not a commonly used expression and it could be easily misinterpreted. It's not just the singular use of the word "monkey" that was inarticulate here. It simply is not clear what "monkey this up" means. There are multiple ways that such a phrase could be interpreted.

But look, I have said that I don't think it's a big deal and I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt that he meant no ill-intent.

He wasn’t referencing black people. No matter how many times you say it. It still doesn’t make it true.

 

[T-TownVol]

The truly sad thing is that the people that live down here have to go through this CRAP for over 2 months.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Thats what im saying is that it's condescending and paternalistic to jump on someone using the word monkey in any phrase that is not overtly rascist. Im not aware of anyone in my lifetime that uses monkey to refer to black people. The only place I've seen it mentioned is by the "The Memphis Flyer' and it's referred to in the movie "Mississippi Burning".

You are picking an argument where one shouldn't exist. I didn't accuse him of being a racist. To the contrary, I said he should be given the benefit of the doubt. He used a very ambiguous and imprecise term which could be easily misinterpreted. That is all.