Fire Kim Caldwell

[SummittSoul]

Catch all space for the fire at all costs posts.

While I don’t personally think firing Kim is the best move at this specific moment, I notice that occasionally other threads are getting derailed or stuck at the fire at all costs themes. Perhaps that needs a clearer place to land. This is that place.

If all such posts and comments can live here, it will allow the other threads to continue as spaces to discuss and debate other topics.

 

[1morevol]

So, you propose to clear up clutter by adding more clutter?

 

[knox73]

Give her a restart. This can be Year One. Being pregnant slowed her down and now she is experienced in the SEC. Remember she was at Glenville only a few months ago basically. Kim knows her system is unique and will require patience. Danny knows that too.

 

[Majac]

Give her a restart. This can be Year One. Being pregnant slowed her down and now she is experienced in the SEC. Remember she was at Glenville only a few months ago basically. Kim knows her system is unique and will require patience. Danny knows that too.

OMG

 

[glv98]

Give her a restart. This can be Year One. Being pregnant slowed her down and now she is experienced in the SEC. Remember she was at Glenville only a few months ago basically. Kim knows her system is unique and will require patience. Danny knows that too.

If a few months ago was 3 yrs ago . . .

Kim Caldwell is 37 yrs old, has been an HC for a decade, has been a D1 HC for 3 full seasons, has coached nearly 100 D1 games.

Can we take young and inexperienced out of the conversation for the sake of accuracy?

Also, IMO it’s blatantly sexist to blame the pregnancy and baby. I wonder how many male coaches became first time fathers .

 

[cwbytruckers]

As most sports at UT im becoming numb to the situation. Football went off the rails and we lived through that forever. Baseball was a doormat and then we had our run and now it takes a bottle of antacids to get through a game. Womens basketball had do eventually go through their Dooley era. And now we are even below that. The house that Pat built is now an outhouse of smells. If it can ever be revived its gonna take someone with more pull than a no name coach with a gimmick system. We need someone who understands this isnt no longer about living up to Pat. But the standards she stood for cant be forgotten. Kim may be the sweetest there is. But she isnt big enough for this job. She is over her head and the deer in the headlight looks way to many times told me more than i ever needed to know.

 

[james_govols]

As most sports at UT im becoming numb to the situation. Football went off the rails and we lived through that forever. Baseball was a doormat and then we had our run and now it takes a bottle of antacids to get through a game. Womens basketball had do eventually go through their Dooley era. And now we are even below that. The house that Pat built is now an outhouse of smells. If it can ever be revived its gonna take someone with more pull than a no name coach with a gimmick system. We need someone who understands this isnt no longer about living up to Pat. But the standards she stood for cant be forgotten. Kim may be the sweetest there is. But she isnt big enough for this job. She is over her head and the deer in the headlight looks way to many times told me more than i ever needed to know.

WBB is still tied to talent above coaching IMO. Talent alone can get you consistent F4s. If Tennessee is willing to spend NIL, then just find a coach that can utilize that talent.

CKC's system will not utilize talent efficiently.

Im okay taking a chance on up and coming coaches as long as their system is competitive at the higher levels.

Eventually one will work out of Tennessee is willing to spend NIL.

 

[SummittSoul]

So, you propose to clear up clutter by adding more clutter?

No. I genuinely think people have valid points of view either way. But, sometimes if there isn’t a clear and specific spot to route the conversation or share the opinion, it gets looped into every thread, which can derail those discussions.

Might not work at all to mitigate redundancy but thought it was worth a try.

 

[Volfan2012]

Probably need to stop talking about something that isn't happening and start to see what kind of team were going to have next season. Not getting fired it would have happened five days ago no reason to wait longer. Team building begins today that is what I am concentrating and interested in from here on.

 

[1reVOLver]

Talent alone can get you consistent F4s.

Begging your pardon, Madam/Sir, but that's far from true. Tell us, please, who, other than Geno, Dawn, Muffet and a very few others have been anywhere near consistent in getting to F4s. Had you said “round of 32” I might sit quietly in the corner.

 

[SummittSoul]

Begging your pardon, Madam/Sir, but that's far from true. Tell us, please, who, other than Geno, Dawn, Muffet and a very few others have been anywhere near consistent in getting to F4s. Had you said “round of 32” I might sit quietly in the corner.

I am still reflecting on the reality that it took Cori 15 years to win that championship. I know this is more of the "norm" than not as to your point there's a select few repeating, even at the F4 level - but I think I'm just spoiled because it really was the norm around here.

 

[1reVOLver]

it really was the norm around here.

Long away and far ago, there was a most atypical coach named Pat. Without that exceptional coach, do you believe the talented UT rosters would have sniffed a Final Four?

 

[Volfan2012]

I am still reflecting on the reality that it took Cori 15 years to win that championship. I know this is more of the "norm" than not as to your point there's a select few repeating, even at the F4 level - but I think I'm just spoiled because it really was the norm around here.

May have never won one if the Stanford coach had not retired. Stanford owned all the top players out there until she retired and they all starting leaving for USC and UCLA. With her retiring finally were able to build rosters that gave her the opportunity.

 

[rickyyrs]

WBB is still tied to talent above coaching IMO. Talent alone can get you consistent F4s. If Tennessee is willing to spend NIL, then just find a coach that can utilize that talent.

CKC's system will not utilize talent efficiently.

Im okay taking a chance on up and coming coaches as long as their system is competitive at the higher levels.

Eventually one will work out of Tennessee is willing to spend NIL.

I could not agree more. CKC's style does not work in D1 women's basketball. There is too many talented teams. You put your best 5 players on the court and let them play. Then your top players are not going to want to sit every 3 or 4 minutes. Let them play. This hockey style line changes will not work.

 

[OrangeInKy]

Give her a restart. This can be Year One. Being pregnant slowed her down and now she is experienced in the SEC. Remember she was at Glenville only a few months ago basically. Kim knows her system is unique and will require patience. Danny knows that too.

I have a 3 part response, and I have chosen my words carefully here:
1. L
2. O
3. L

 

[ShortyMac10]

Give her a restart. This can be Year One. Being pregnant slowed her down and now she is experienced in the SEC. Remember she was at Glenville only a few months ago basically. Kim knows her system is unique and will require patience. Danny knows that too.

Na give her her walking papers that right there is why she should’ve went to VCU Arizona or somewhere else before coming here

 

[Woodworker]

Regardless of what many on here think talent was here last year. I assume no one evaluated any of it and to see it fit, they just showed them the bags. I don't see why she would be able to do any better this time.
Reloading every year only works when you have a good plan and a coach. I guess we are still hanging hope on what she did at Glenville St.

 

[glv98]

Probably need to stop talking about something that isn't happening and start to see what kind of team were going to have next season. Not getting fired it would have happened five days ago no reason to wait longer. Team building begins today that is what I am concentrating and interested in from here on.

Never one to tell others what they should and shouldn’t post or talk about. But I definitely agree, the fire Kim ship has sailed and can’t even be spotted on the horizon.

IMO she and her staff should try to stay as far away from the mess they made as possible, and move firmly ahead. Let their trusted talkers get their side of the narrative out as they are already doing.

The defining moment is whether good players will actually come here and commit totally to the system. For them nothing else should matter, no matter how much it matters to us.

 

[macrovol]

It was mentioned on a local radio show that CKC was sabatoged by her assistant coaches, but either they never said what happened or I missed it. Anybody know the story here?

 

[glv98]

It was mentioned on a local radio show that CKC was sabatoged by her assistant coaches, but either they never said what happened or I missed it. Anybody know the story here?

slightest scroll through almost any of the threads can get you caught up.