Final Question to Fulmer

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#26
GmanTN said:
From 92 thru 98 was his best run. Those were also the years where FL and AL were either going thru sanctions or HC carousels so those borders were not locked down to recruiting as much.Fulmer was 66-33 in 8 yrs without Cutcliffe and 82-19 in 8 yrs with him.I think the success of Fulmer is due in large part of Cutcliffe which most on here fail to see.
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The only thing Florida was "going through" in that era was Tennessee's defense like a knife through hot butter.
 
#27
#27
hatvol96 said:
What was Fulmer's record against Florida in the '90s? How many SEC titles did he win compared to Florida? That "Decade of Dominance" BS is the greatest sham that Fulmer sold the masses.
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Bite your tongue. We dominated the Florida Citrus Bowl. :p
 
#28
#28
G'Town Vol said:
Yeah our overall talent level is down, but the man won 2 SEC's and a National Championship. Get off his back.

The only person in this world that has the right to say anything negative to Fulmer at this time is Johnny Majors. Everyone else just needs to lay off and respect the man.

they forced him out, he offered his resignation rather than be fired. He refused to divide the Vol Nation even at a most critical and pivotal moment in his career. The entire time he was thinking what was better for the group, not what was best for himself.

The work he has done off the field, including for players and fans, is phenomenal.

Yes, I thought that as a football coach, he needed to go. It's a sound business decision if you want your favortie team to win games. But the football program should thank him for the rest of its existence for him ever being a part of UT, and that includes the fans.
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Not to belabor the thing, but Fulmer didn't quite go quietly in the night. If he had taken the ultimate high road and what would have been best for the program, he would have made an announcement that this year was his last and that he was voluntarily retiring. Now I know, there is the question of the buyout if he retired. That could have easily been negotiated with Hamilton, since the latter would surely have preferred a quiet, non-controversial departure by Fulmer. Instead, there was quite a ruckus by Fulmer, announcing to the world that he was being kicked out, and turning the whole thing into an emotional turmoil. It was Fulmer's right to do what he did, but let's not deceive ourselves into concluding that he put the UT football program first and foremost. He didn't, IMO.
 
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#30
hohenfelsvol said:
Only thing that is better is the facilities.
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i am guessing that since the numbers 1998 are hung up on the upper deck in the endzones, you are referring that to the facilities as well?

Let's not kid ourselves, while most of us all agree it was past time for a change, PF had a great run while he was here.
 
#31
#31
If I read another anti-Fulmer thread here I think I'll puke! Can't we just look forward to Kiffin's tenure? There's a lot to be excited about!
 
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hatvol96 said:
Which, for all intents and purposes, ended in 2001.
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i will not disagree with that. I might have said 02, giving an extra year.

But, I think most of us are happy to have CLK on board, and I don't know what the heck I will do for the next 8 months!

All I was trying to say is the the facilities aren't the only thing that are better because of him.
 
#36
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billbattle said:
Not to belabor the thing, but Fulmer didn't quite go quietly in the night. If he had taken the ultimate high road and what would have been best for the program, he would have made an announcement that this year was his last and that he was voluntarily retiring. Now I know, there is the question of the buyout if he retired. That could have easily been negotiated with Hamilton, since the latter would surely have preferred a quiet, non-controversial departure by Fulmer. Instead, there was quite a ruckus by Fulmer, announcing to the world that he was being kicked out, and turning the whole thing into an emotional turmoil. It was Fulmer's right to do what he did, but let's not deceive ourselves into concluding that he put the UT football program first and foremost. He didn't, IMO.
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But for all the personal time and energy he sunk into this university, he deserved every bit of that press conference, however he wanted it done and whatever he wanted to say. The man gives more than half of his life to this school, and we can't give him 20 minutes to call the kettle black?

Sure you could argue that he was paid more than enough money for his time and services, but you can't put a pricetag on a life. And for all of the things he has done with his life, you still couldn't pay him enough, in my opinion.
 
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