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Looking back through Nick Saban’s first year at Bama, you’ll see quite a few Bama won 1st quarters. Obviously, that team didn’t know how to finish, even losing to Lousiana Monroe, but anyone could see that Saban had what it took to turn that program around. No further proof needed than the beatdown they gave us to the tune of 41-17.

Fast forward to 2018, if we want to see a Kirby Smart/Nick Saban turnaround, here’s what needs to happen:

1. Fast Start: we need to jump on some people early, especially SEC teams. It’s the mark of a team that came prepared.

2. Signature win: Pruitt is going to have to find his signature win. The kind of win that gets EVERYONE on board with his vision. The kind of win that’s never in doubt. With Pruitt changing the culture, you can’t expect every game to go our way, but to get everyone bought in will take finishing the deal at least once.

3. No blowouts: obviously this one is out the window already in week 1. But maybe that’s how far we’ve fallen. Either way I’ll give him a pass with what had to be a top 5 bad beat for your head coaching debut. Let’s see how ready Pruitt has us for the heavyweight SEC teams. Will we fight tooth and nail for 4 quarters, or will we lay down and give up like Butchs teams.

It’s no secret year 2 has been the catalyst for the modern day great coaches. Doesn’t mean we should give up hope if things don’t happen for us exactly like it did for bama or uga. It does mean, however, that we need to see Pruitt coach teams that show signs of being well coached, prepared, and aren’t afraid to fight for a win. Show us a glimmer of hope and our fan base will explode.
 
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I believe we will start out fast against Florida, and win that game. We can’t afford to start slow in the Georgia game, like South Carolina did. I believe we have to fight toe to toe with them, and yet no team hasn’t done that yet. I believe we will, and we can’t be intimidated by Georgia this year. That is what happen to South Carolina in that game. If you remember last year, the interception at the beginning of that game set the tone, and now the deflected pass in the South Carolina game, was the exact same thing that happen to us last year. If we can set up our running game early against Georgia, then our passing game can get going, then we will see a difference, and don’t throw that interception like last year, keep it on the ground the first play. We must get at least 4 or 5 yards a play on passing and running plays. I believe we can do that, and win that game. I believe we are the only team in the SEC east that can play with Georgia this year. You can’t tell me that someone on this coaching staff hasn’t already scouted Florida and Georgia already, and has looked at the film on these two teams to start preparing for both teams. I think this team knows that they are preparing already for both teams ahead of UTEP, and I think they will be ready for both of them.
 
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There isnt going to be any Saban/Smart like turnarounds. Think about it. Saban was a national championship winning coach before getting to Bama. Smart walked into a loaded roster. Pruitt walked into one of the worst rosters in the country. This team is not going to see much significant turnaround until most of Botchs busts are gone and his guys come in and get coached up.
 
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Orange defense said:
I believe we will start out fast against Florida, and win that game. We can’t afford to start slow in the Georgia game, like South Carolina did. I believe we have to fight toe to toe with them, and yet no team hasn’t done that yet. I believe we will, and we can’t be intimidated by Georgia this year. That is what happen to South Carolina in that game. If you remember last year, the interception at the beginning of that game set the tone, and now the deflected pass in the South Carolina game, was the exact same thing that happen to us last year. If we can set up our running game early against Georgia, then our passing game can get going, then we will see a difference, and don’t throw that interception like last year, keep it on the ground the first play. We must get at least 4 or 5 yards a play on passing and running plays. I believe we can do that, and win that game. I believe we are the only team in the SEC east that can play with Georgia this year. You can’t tell me that someone on this coaching staff hasn’t already scouted Florida and Georgia already, and has looked at the film on these two teams to start preparing for both teams. I think this team knows that they are preparing already for both teams ahead of UTEP, and I think they will be ready for both of them.
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OD why do you just continue to flat out ignore how good UGA is? I mean right now, there may only be 2-3 teams in the entire country who can hang with them. I get you are optimistic but this whole Smart cant beat Pruitt is beyond nonsense. Georgia will beat us as bad or worse than they did last year. I mean we have to go to Athens with this roster? UGA is liable to hang 70 on us.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
OD why do you just continue to flat out ignore how good UGA is? I mean right now, there may only be 2-3 teams in the entire country who can hang with them. I get you are optimistic but this whole Smart cant beat Pruitt is beyond nonsense. Georgia will beat us as bad or worse than they did last year. I mean we have to go to Athens with this roster? UGA is liable to hang 70 on us.
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Best case scenario is Georgia gets stoned the night before and only wins 30- 14.
 
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I believe we will start out fast against Florida, and win that game. We can’t afford to start slow in the Georgia game, like South Carolina did. I believe we have to fight toe to toe with them, and yet no team hasn’t done that yet. I believe we will, and we can’t be intimidated by Georgia this year. That is what happen to South Carolina in that game. If you remember last year, the interception at the beginning of that game set the tone, and now the deflected pass in the South Carolina game, was the exact same thing that happen to us last year. If we can set up our running game early against Georgia, then our passing game can get going, then we will see a difference, and don’t throw that interception like last year, keep it on the ground the first play. We must get at least 4 or 5 yards a play on passing and running plays. I believe we can do that, and win that game. I believe we are the only team in the SEC east that can play with Georgia this year. You can’t tell me that someone on this coaching staff hasn’t already scouted Florida and Georgia already, and has looked at the film on these two teams to start preparing for both teams. I think this team knows that they are preparing already for both teams ahead of UTEP, and I think they will be ready for both of them.
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What indication do you have that we will start fast against Florida? Just a hunch?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
There isnt going to be any Saban/Smart like turnarounds. Think about it. Saban was a national championship winning coach before getting to Bama. Smart walked into a loaded roster. Pruitt walked into one of the worst rosters in the country. This team is not going to see much significant turnaround until most of Botchs busts are gone and his guys come in and get coached up.
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Sad, but very true
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
There isnt going to be any Saban/Smart like turnarounds. Think about it. Saban was a national championship winning coach before getting to Bama. Smart walked into a loaded roster. Pruitt walked into one of the worst rosters in the country. This team is not going to see much significant turnaround until most of Botchs busts are gone and his guys come in and get coached up.
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If you're talking winning SECC or even SECEC then I would agree. If you're talking beating the likes of Vandy, Kentucky, Missouri, and the current Florida team then this roster has enough talent to win those games and should win at least half of them. I can't understand this idea that CJP gets an absolute pass on this season. Anything less than 6-6 and a low level bowl is under performing the talent already on the team.
 
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I believe we will start out fast against Florida, and win that game. We can’t afford to start slow in the Georgia game, like South Carolina did. I believe we have to fight toe to toe with them, and yet no team hasn’t done that yet. I believe we will, and we can’t be intimidated by Georgia this year. That is what happen to South Carolina in that game. If you remember last year, the interception at the beginning of that game set the tone, and now the deflected pass in the South Carolina game, was the exact same thing that happen to us last year. If we can set up our running game early against Georgia, then our passing game can get going, then we will see a difference, and don’t throw that interception like last year, keep it on the ground the first play. We must get at least 4 or 5 yards a play on passing and running plays. I believe we can do that, and win that game. I believe we are the only team in the SEC east that can play with Georgia this year. You can’t tell me that someone on this coaching staff hasn’t already scouted Florida and Georgia already, and has looked at the film on these two teams to start preparing for both teams. I think this team knows that they are preparing already for both teams ahead of UTEP, and I think they will be ready for both of them.
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I find your constant, over the top optimism to be nauseating and childish. Are you truly sincere in your beliefs or is this your attempt to offset other's negativism? If the former I suspect you also expect to win Powerball every time you enter. 🙃
 
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When we play Bama, Georgia, Auburn and LSU it will be similar to UT playing ETSU. They have more quality linemen red shirted than we have playing.
 
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the.one.the.only said:
Looking back through Nick Saban’s first year at Bama, you’ll see quite a few Bama won 1st quarters. Obviously, that team didn’t know how to finish, even losing to Lousiana Monroe, but anyone could see that Saban had what it took to turn that program around. No further proof needed than the beatdown they gave us to the tune of 41-17.

Fast forward to 2018, if we want to see a Kirby Smart/Nick Saban turnaround, here’s what needs to happen:

1. Fast Start: we need to jump on some people early, especially SEC teams. It’s the mark of a team that came prepared.

2. Signature win: Pruitt is going to have to find his signature win. The kind of win that gets EVERYONE on board with his vision. The kind of win that’s never in doubt. With Pruitt changing the culture, you can’t expect every game to go our way, but to get everyone bought in will take finishing the deal at least once.

3. No blowouts: obviously this one is out the window already in week 1. But maybe that’s how far we’ve fallen. Either way I’ll give him a pass with what had to be a top 5 bad beat for your head coaching debut. Let’s see how ready Pruitt has us for the heavyweight SEC teams. Will we fight tooth and nail for 4 quarters, or will we lay down and give up like Butchs teams.

It’s no secret year 2 has been the catalyst for the modern day great coaches. Doesn’t mean we should give up hope if things don’t happen for us exactly like it did for bama or uga. It does mean, however, that we need to see Pruitt coach teams that show signs of being well coached, prepared, and aren’t afraid to fight for a win. Show us a glimmer of hope and our fan base will explode.
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Apples and oranges..... Hard to compare this team to those teams...
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
There isnt going to be any Saban/Smart like turnarounds. Think about it. Saban was a national championship winning coach before getting to Bama. Smart walked into a loaded roster. Pruitt walked into one of the worst rosters in the country. This team is not going to see much significant turnaround until most of Botchs busts are gone and his guys come in and get coached up.
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Correct. CJP is working off what was left from Butch's era. The players never developed and might not even be bought in yet with his coaching. Let Pruitt have a recruit class of his own with time to have the team BUY IN.
 
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If we don't start recruiting a lot of big uglies we will never again be competitive in this league. The other teams are getting more than their share while we move defensive ends to defensive tackle. Don't even have enough linemen to play a spring football game. I think Pruitt has a better chance of getting them here than the last 3 coaches. If we are able to get them we win, if not just more of the same.
 
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GrudenVol5th said:
Do you participate in anything and expect to lose? I surely don’t and if I played the lotto, I would expect to win. If I approach a woman that is a 10, I expect to get her number and get at least 1 date
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Then that's exactly the kind of over the top optimism he was talking about. There's a point that it slides right on down into oblivious absurdity.

Exhibit A: The belief that simply repeating a silly mantra, like say..."Smart can't beat Pruitt" a few thousand times will assure it's inevitability.
 
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the.one.the.only said:
3. No blowouts: obviously this one is out the window already in week 1. But maybe that’s how far we’ve fallen. Either way I’ll give him a pass with what had to be a top 5 bad beat for your head coaching debut. Let’s see how ready Pruitt has us for the heavyweight SEC teams. Will we fight tooth and nail for 4 quarters, or will we lay down and give up like Butchs teams.
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Have to disagree with top 5 bad beat for head coaching debuts. Just off the top of my head I'd say VT's Fuente with the loss to Butch and Taggart's loss last weekend were worse losses than Pruitt's. There are more out there that are bad too.

EDIT: kelly lost to Cincinnatti first week, Frost also lost to a team they should've beat although not as bad.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
There isnt going to be any Saban/Smart like turnarounds. Think about it. Saban was a national championship winning coach before getting to Bama. Smart walked into a loaded roster. Pruitt walked into one of the worst rosters in the country. This team is not going to see much significant turnaround until most of Botchs busts are gone and his guys come in and get coached up.
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The UT roster is certainly NOT one of the worst in the country and is easily top half of the conference. There is NFL talent on this roster at nearly every position.
 
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DaUndergroundMan said:
Then that's exactly the kind of over the top optimism he was talking about. There's a point that it slides right on down into oblivious absurdity.

Exhibit A: The belief that simply repeating a silly mantra, like say..."Smart can't beat Pruitt" a few thousand times will assure it's inevitability.
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Nah, just expectation....some people have and some don’t, but those that do have a way better life than those who don’t
 
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GrudenVol5th said:
Do you participate in anything and expect to lose? I surely don’t and if I played the lotto, I would expect to win. If I approach a woman that is a 10, I expect to get her number and get at least 1 date
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But you're not participating in the actual games, as far as we know. Are you? If so, get off the Internet and hit the books!
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
If we don't start recruiting a lot of big uglies we will never again be competitive in this league. The other teams are getting more than their share while we move defensive ends to defensive tackle. Don't even have enough linemen to play a spring football game. I think Pruitt has a better chance of getting them here than the last 3 coaches. If we are able to get them we win, if not just more of the same.
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You should go to the recruiting thread.
 
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Orange defense said:
I believe we will start out fast against Florida, and win that game. We can’t afford to start slow in the Georgia game, like South Carolina did. I believe we have to fight toe to toe with them, and yet no team hasn’t done that yet. I believe we will, and we can’t be intimidated by Georgia this year. That is what happen to South Carolina in that game. If you remember last year, the interception at the beginning of that game set the tone, and now the deflected pass in the South Carolina game, was the exact same thing that happen to us last year. If we can set up our running game early against Georgia, then our passing game can get going, then we will see a difference, and don’t throw that interception like last year, keep it on the ground the first play. We must get at least 4 or 5 yards a play on passing and running plays. I believe we can do that, and win that game. I believe we are the only team in the SEC east that can play with Georgia this year. You can’t tell me that someone on this coaching staff hasn’t already scouted Florida and Georgia already, and has looked at the film on these two teams to start preparing for both teams. I think this team knows that they are preparing already for both teams ahead of UTEP, and I think they will be ready for both of them.
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I want to believe we can compete with GA. Because I know that we have talent and I believe we're capable. But this team, specifically the defense and o line still look the same. I don't know if they are weak, dumb, scared, or what is going on with them, but when we get into the meat of this schedule, we're screwed
 
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