Fallout 4, Don't call it a come back!

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Who else is immersing themselves in another Fallout 4 playthrough thanks to the show?

 

[Pennheel]

Who else is immersing themselves in another Fallout 4 playthrough thanks to the show?

Me!! I wasnt a huge fan of the game(More of a Fallout 3 and New Vegas fan),but with the free update and improvements( plus the show which is great. I haven't finished it!),I'd give it another shot and am enjoying it so far.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

How is the next gen update? I loved Fallout 3 but wasn't really crazy about Fallout 4.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

I have avoided the update myself as I am playing with like 60 plus mods on pc, and it would break them. Also there's really no real improvement on PC. It's more for newer consoles.

Mainly I have alot of graphics and weapons mods. So like I have the FAL, UMP, Service Rifle (aka AR15/M16), Uzi, a 9mm 911 clone orSig P220 maybe, Calibres mod for better ammo crafting, Thompson SMg replacer, see through scopes (no tunnel scope vision), better location damage, more realistic ballistics (this actually does make the game much deadlier bullets hurt more, no more getting sprayed and walking it off) and lots quality of life stuff for settlements (no real height limitations and settlements have 30 times more possible objects) More stuff you can build, a hunting mod that allows you a better way to get food and leather more realistically.......all stuff that the PC handles without the need of an update. I also am running the Nora lives mod....which makes it a very different story, once you find her she's a fully voiced companion and you can hunt for shaun with her....lore friendly, and no weird stuff like some companion mods. I think that last one is available for consoles as well.

This is like my 100th playthrough I maybe finished main story once though.....spent mroe time modding then playing.

My honest opinion if you have pc version avoid update and enjoy the mods.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Meeeee. Just fired it up yesterday. I never completed it the first time through, but the show gave me the itch to get back in this world. So here I am.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Meeeee. Just fired it up yesterday. I never completed it the first time through, but the show gave me the itch to get back in this world. So here I am.

Not many have completed it, because as the ghoul said law of the wasteland you will get sidetracked every time you start to do something.

80% of my Fallout hours have been modding and testing mods.....I have completed main story line to find son....but I have just scratched the surface of what all is in the game now.

Mainly the settlements are huge time sinks.......and I can't NOT build defensable safe settlements, and end up more civil engineer then adventurer.

 

[Aesius]

I jumped back in with the update. Playing Survival mode on PC.

It makes the game world feel so much more alive. Resources become so much more valuable because you need to eat, drink, and sleep regularly. You can also get illnesses which you have to cure using antibiotics, which are expensive or crafted using fairly rare materials. You can only save when you sleep, so you often so fairly long stretches between saves, which amps up the tension significantly.

Also, NO fast travel. It makes you appreciate the world design more because you're constantly traversing on foot and learning new things about the map.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Codsworth is a great companion... but if he doesn't GET OUT OF MY WAY....

 

[Pennheel]

I jumped back in with the update. Playing Survival mode on PC.

It makes the game world feel so much more alive. Resources become so much more valuable because you need to eat, drink, and sleep regularly. You can also get illnesses which you have to cure using antibiotics, which are expensive or crafted using fairly rare materials. You can only save when you sleep, so you often so fairly long stretches between saves, which amps up the tension significantly.

Also, NO fast travel. It makes you appreciate the world design more because you're constantly traversing on foot and learning new things about the map.

Doing no fast travel would be a fun idea to challenge yourself and check out the sandbox. There's a lot of random things happening in the wasteland. Although I didn't like the main story of 4, I loved the gameplay,and this update freshens things up a bit.

 

[Aesius]

Doing no fast travel would be a fun idea to challenge yourself and check out the sandbox. There's a lot of random things happening in the wasteland. Although I didn't like the main story of 4, I loved the gameplay,and this update freshens things up a bit.

Yeah, even if you don't do survival, I would recommend simply not fast traveling. It really changes the game in a good way. Bethesda created an amazing world, and fast traveling causes you to miss so much of it.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

If you do mods for quality of life on a rather broken settlement system I really recommend these:

Transfer Settlements, Settlement Menu Manager, Settlement Height 9000, Increase Build Limit Enhancer 4k, Homemaker, Scrap Everything

Transfer settlements more then any other is a game changer...but several of these other ones are kinda required for it to meet full potential. In a nut shell any settlement can be turned into a blueprint, or built from a blueprint. Given that settlements are your biggest time sink, being able to record one the way you like it and just instantly rebuild on another play through means more time playing actual adventure and questing and less time clicking blocks. It also goes to some extra effort to be mor elore friendly including sound and special effects and a "fallout" tech to explain why you can do this. It didn't have to even do this but it does.

Scrap Everything means just that everything within your borders is scrapable including foundations buildings etc.....you can truly get anything and those annoying bushes out of your foundations.

The height thing is overkill.....I doubt anyone going to 9000 high unless youw ant to halo jump almost. However many settlements have anoyingly low build heights like Sanctuary....or tease with you with interstate overpasses but once you get there you can't build higher....this fixes that.

Build limit thing is obvious settlements were severely limited in number of objects because console limitations, and my guess even teh next get update still limits them. Your on a PC though and such silly limitations make no sense when you have terabytes of storage just for the console plebians. there's several mods that fix this, but the IBLE 4k one I used seems cleaner, and let's you choose at each workstation just how much you want to extend it...you can double it or x30 it..or choose to simply leave it alone.

Homemaker includes a lot of new objects that are present in the world and DLC but currently you couldn't build and now you can. Tripling your choices easily. The menu stuff is required for teh build menu to look right after installing.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Oh and if your lazy you can download compatible blueprints for every settlement, some even done by ex bethesda FO4 devs, personally I want to build my own and still explore that part of the game. But I don't want to have to redo it every playthrough.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

So the biggest barrier to modding for Fallout 4 is the failed and useless update. I can not recommend enough that if you play on PC you should downgrade to 1.10.163.0.1 and for this purpose there are two things you need.

(get Vortex from nexus if you don't already have it)

Fallout 4 Downgrader

Restore your game's mod compatibility with Fallout 4 Downgrader. Quickly revert Fallout 4 to its pre-next-gen version to continue using mods that uses F4SE and Buffout. Simple and automated. Now witho

www.nexusmods.com

Works a peach if you have steam... it does not log you steam account but rather is using that ability to distribute the prior 163 files legally. This will downgrade you to the most stable version of Fallout 4, it's idiot proof, and this is what 99% of mods were made to be used with.

the second must have is the Steam Next Gen update skip which modifies the steam acf file so steam does not autoupdate your Fallout 4 game again. It tricks it to think it's already updated. Youc an stil update at any time you choose however.

STEAM - Skip Next-Gen update

Use this acf file to trick steam into thinking your game is updated, so you can use your mods with peace of mind

www.nexusmods.com

Lastly if you want an update that actually WORKS and improves performance of Fallout then this mod and installing all the requirements will absoilutely have your game running actual next gen with no false promises.

"Buffout_FPS_CPU_BakaScrapHeap_MaxPapyrus Settings"​

Buffout 4 NG X-CELL FPS MCM BOOST Settings

(Works for both OldGen and NextGen) I adjusted settings in various ways, for personal preference... I do not promise this is a one-size-fits-all approach, rather to get Buffout 4 NG and X

www.nexusmods.com

​

Again note requirements as you will need to install all of these for it to work:
Address Library for F4SE Plugins, Baka MaxPapyrusOps, Baka ScrapHeap - Script Memory Limit Expander, Buffout 4,
Disk Cache Enabler,Fallout 4 Script Extender (F4SE),Fallout Priority - CPU Performance FPS Optimizer, High FPS Physics Fix, NVIDIA Reflex Support,(Optional, NVIDIA GPUs only), Weapon Debris Crash Fix, xSE PluginPreloader F4.

These will make your game have super quick loadtime, usually near eliminate all CTD's and allow for insane FPS even with HD everything, and best of all give you a baseline that will allow a gaming PC to then run say 700 mod collection packs without hiccups. an ACTUAL Update. This is the update we SHOULD have gotten....if promises were real.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

So the biggest barrier to modding for Fallout 4 is the failed and useless update. I can not recommend enough that if you play on PC you should downgrade to 1.10.163.0.1 and for this purpose there are two things you need.

(get Vortex from nexus if you don't already have it)

Fallout 4 Downgrader

Restore your game's mod compatibility with Fallout 4 Downgrader. Quickly revert Fallout 4 to its pre-next-gen version to continue using mods that uses F4SE and Buffout. Simple and automated. Now witho

www.nexusmods.com

Works a peach if you have steam... it does not log you steam account but rather is using that ability to distribute the prior 163 files legally. This will downgrade you to the most stable version of Fallout 4, it's idiot proof, and this is what 99% of mods were made to be used with.

the second must have is the Steam Next Gen update skip which modifies the steam acf file so steam does not autoupdate your Fallout 4 game again. It tricks it to think it's already updated. Youc an stil update at any time you choose however.

STEAM - Skip Next-Gen update

Use this acf file to trick steam into thinking your game is updated, so you can use your mods with peace of mind

www.nexusmods.com

Lastly if you want an update that actually WORKS and improves performance of Fallout then this mod and installing all the requirements will absoilutely have your game running actual next gen with no false promises.

"Buffout_FPS_CPU_BakaScrapHeap_MaxPapyrus Settings"​

Buffout 4 NG X-CELL FPS MCM BOOST Settings

(Works for both OldGen and NextGen) I adjusted settings in various ways, for personal preference... I do not promise this is a one-size-fits-all approach, rather to get Buffout 4 NG and X

www.nexusmods.com

​

Again note requirements as you will need to install all of these for it to work:
Address Library for F4SE Plugins, Baka MaxPapyrusOps, Baka ScrapHeap - Script Memory Limit Expander, Buffout 4,
Disk Cache Enabler,Fallout 4 Script Extender (F4SE),Fallout Priority - CPU Performance FPS Optimizer, High FPS Physics Fix, NVIDIA Reflex Support,(Optional, NVIDIA GPUs only), Weapon Debris Crash Fix, xSE PluginPreloader F4.

These will make your game have super quick loadtime, usually near eliminate all CTD's and allow for insane FPS even with HD everything, and best of all give you a baseline that will allow a gaming PC to then run say 700 mod collection packs without hiccups. an ACTUAL Update. This is the update we SHOULD have gotten....if promises were real.

I don't understand a word you just said

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

I don't understand a word you just said

Then probably should just play on a console.

 

[Pennheel]

I never played any of the DLC originally,but I'm finding the Far Harbor DLC better than the base game. The story and the side missions. It could have been it's own game. I'm really enjoying it.

I guess it makes sense as the developers from New Vegas made the Far Harbor DLC.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

I never played any of the DLC originally,but I'm finding the Far Harbor DLC better than the base game. The story and the side missions. It could have been it's own game. I'm really enjoying it.

I guess it makes sense as the developers from New Vegas made the Far Harbor DLC.

I was trying to decide if I want to get it or not. Sounds like I do.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

I never played any of the DLC originally,but I'm finding the Far Harbor DLC better than the base game. The story and the side missions. It could have been it's own game. I'm really enjoying it.

I guess it makes sense as the developers from New Vegas made the Far Harbor DLC.

Yeah it's DLC that was almost it's own new game. Especially in todays day of CRAP DLC that usually is just a new texture or some other cosmetic junk, FO4 was a time where DLC was genuinely deep content and worth the price.

 

[LouderVol]

I never played any of the DLC originally,but I'm finding the Far Harbor DLC better than the base game. The story and the side missions. It could have been it's own game. I'm really enjoying it.

I guess it makes sense as the developers from New Vegas made the Far Harbor DLC.

the mechanist one is not as good, but still worth going through. doesn't introduce many new side quests, but the dlc main quest is pretty solid and more robust than Far Harbors main quest.

 

[Pennheel]

the mechanist one is not as good, but still worth going through. doesn't introduce many new side quests, but the dlc main quest is pretty solid and more robust than Far Harbors main quest.

I'll have to keep that in mind. I'm on the last main mission of Far Harbor. A bit of a headache,but we'll worth it for the storyline.

 

[LouderVol]

I'll have to keep that in mind. I'm on the last main mission of Far Harbor. A bit of a headache,but we'll worth it for the storyline.

it takes place in the wasteland so its not introducing a new area like far harbor. some new enemies, and random encounters, maybe half a dozen new locations. can't remember too many dedicated side quests, besides some procedural Preston Garvey esque quests.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

A little sample of my highly modded version. I rolled it back to before the silly update, because modded it runs better, and looks better then their so called update. This has to do with what I mentioned above. The one thing that should stand out is the lighting, weather, and ENB. This is a sample from my Sanctuary Settlement General Store mostly.



Bethseda Update < Modders Updates.

 

[Pennheel]

A little sample of my highly modded version. I rolled it back to before the silly update, because modded it runs better, and looks better then their so called update. This has to do with what I mentioned above. The one thing that should stand out is the lighting, weather, and ENB. This is a sample from my Sanctuary Settlement General Store mostly.



Bethseda Update < Modders Updates.

Really cool mod. You did a great job with it. I like the Bestheda update they gave us,but there's so much potential with the mods. It definitely adds to replayability.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

So I continue to mod it, and spend more time modding then playing..... Anyway to spice it up made a Lucy Maclean inspired protagonist from the TV show, with a little more gunslinger vibe, as she has studied with the Ghoul and is a bit more hardened, so veteran Lucy is not fresh from the vault. Currently at 297 mods running smooth in vsync.

Bump it to 1080 or 1440 or looks like trash...

You can FF to night to see full lighting and storms. Sadly when it's really dark Youtube as always butchers the darkness in codec. Can't be helped.....

[nerd on] So the gameplay is nothing like original, I use a "better locational damage" mod that makes combat much faster and unforgiving on all sides. Not only do you take much more realistic damage, but bleeding, pain and other effects can result from any given injury, depending on weapon type some more likely then others. Chars like super mutants, bears, death claw etc can kill you usually in about one attack. Ballistics is in general improved. Armor location matters as well...instead of just a total stat, you take a headshot and your melon likely will burst without a helmet. They die quicker and you die quicker. But I am mainly working on lighting/weather, I want both outside and inside to be a horror game basicaly...lots of murder in the dark. I think I have lighting and weather pretty damn good now. I know it certainly looks more "Next Gen" then the offical update crap fest. Video discription has more mod info. The real secret to fallout 4 is that it is a good base game, to put mods on, and while it has flaws, it's one of the most modded games of all time, and had HUGE DLC with lots of deep stories and content.....so most of original flaws have been answered, there's more quests, more npc, more dialogue, more companions, and more locations. To be honest I have a lot of mods I still haven't even run across in game to test them yet. I have added a ton of early cold war era weapons to be found, and on leveled lists etc. Fal, Uzi, American 180, 1911, Thompson, Stg 44, M1a, M1 Garande, etc. Behold the power of an Nvidia RTX gaming PC! Console plebians enjoy the official "next gen patch"! [/nerd off]

Oh and using Reactor ENB with DOF turned off.

REACTOR - A FALLOUT4 ENB

A state of the art ENB preset that brings the graphics of Fallout 4 into the present ;)

www.nexusmods.com

 

[Peradox1K]

I never played any of the DLC originally,but I'm finding the Far Harbor DLC better than the base game. The story and the side missions. It could have been it's own game. I'm really enjoying it.

I guess it makes sense as the developers from New Vegas made the Far Harbor DLC.

Personally, my favorite is Nuka-World. But this is #2 for sure.