Extra Points?

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#26
volsdeepnsc said:
Exactly. Snowflakes never satisfied
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Has nothing to do with snow. Butch made the decision to not go for 2 when he was up 26-14 with 10:19 left in the fourth. Going for 1 made it a 13 point game (27-14), and only protected against a 3 score scenario in which UT would not lose in regulation if Florida scored TD, FG, FG. Going for 2 and failing would subject you to three score jeopardy, but making it would prevent you from losing in regulation in the last minute and change from the more likely two score scenario. Which is what Florida did. The timing of the decision made guarding against a three score scenario vs two score scenario the wrong choice. Had the decision been made in the second quarter, then you could justify more easily, because there would be ample time for Florida to score on three possessions. But with 10 minutes left, it was the wrong call. Pruitt's decision at 24-12 was just wrong, not even debatable.
 
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I think they were both wrong considering the time in the game. You take the one both times.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
The 2nd one was to make it a 10 point game. Going for 1 means you need 2 TDs to win, getting the 2 means you need a TD and a field goal. If you go for it and don’t get it then it’s a wash with just kicking the field goal because 2 TDs still wins it. It was absolutely the correct call. No real argument against it.
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I didn't.remember the exact score at the time, doesnt really matter but.thanks
 
#30
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First one would've made it a 2 possession game. With the score being 24-12 you are going to need a 2 pt play at some point and the figured why not try for it now. If you don't get it at least you know what boat you're in. Defense just got wore down and then of course the fumble by banks
 
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JohnnyJava said:
Try thinking through this again. Going for 1 at 24-12 makes it 24-13, which is an 8 pt td and fg, not two touchdowns as you indicate. It was absolutely the *wrong* call.
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So we had to go for 2 but your problem is with which TD?
And you've determined the last TD is best because? Do the percentages go up by waiting longer?
 
#32
#32
Each play is an opportunity to learn, you want to learn to cross the goal line against good teams.
 
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JohnnyJava said:
Try thinking through this again. Going for 1 at 24-12 makes it 24-13, which is an 8 pt td and fg, not two touchdowns as you indicate. It was absolutely the *wrong* call.
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I’m going on the basis that we don’t go for 2 at all....So you’re saying he should have went for 2, but not on this score....Because logic?

Your argument here makes you seem like you’re just arguing for the sake of arguing.
 
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The Original Fade said:
Agree. If you fail on the first one the other two are meaningless
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No, the second 2pt try was to make it a ten point game (so a field goal and a TD ties it). If we don't go for 2 it is 24 to 13 meaning either two TDs, or a 2pt conversion and a FG, Essentially the exact same as 24-12 since no one can fathom why we would go for 2. Not really hard to understand.
 
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rdk4121 said:
No, the second 2pt try was to make it a ten point game (so a field goal and a TD ties it). If we don't go for 2 it is 24 to 13 meaning either two TDs, or a 2pt conversion and a FG, Essentially the exact same as 24-12 since no one can fathom why we would go for 2. Not really hard to understand.
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Well actually you could take the one and make it 24 to 13 and still have a chance to tie with a touchdown, two point conversion, and field goal. Since a one is much more likely than a two that is the way I would've played it.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Well actually you could take the one and make it 24 to 13 and still have a chance to tie with a touchdown, two point conversion, and field goal. Since a one is much more likely than a two that is the way I would've played it.
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Another person arguing just to argue. Either way you need a 2 pt conversion. Now or later doesn’t matter.
 
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rocytop2624 said:
When it's 24 to 0 and the beginning of the 3rd you get a TD you go for two simple math really.
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On the first touchdown, yes. The second touchdown , no. An extra point would have made it a touchdown,two point conversion and a field goal to tie. This would have been easier than scoring two touchdowns.
 
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Vol865 said:
First one would've made it a 2 possession game. With the score being 24-12 you are going to need a 2 pt play at some point and the figured why not try for it now. If you don't get it at least you know what boat you're in. Defense just got wore down and then of course the fumble by banks
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That's always been my mindset as well.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
I may have misread your post, I was under the impression you were advocating against the 2 pt conversion on the 2nd TD.
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It doesnt really matter. I would have went for one, because it keeps it a 2 score game with a td and fg, which is significantly easier than 2 tds. So I would go with the combination that gives me the easiest.combination at a win / tie. Neither is right or wrong.
 
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Vol865 said:
First one would've made it a 2 possession game. With the score being 24-12 you are going to need a 2 pt play at some point and the figured why not try for it now. If you don't get it at least you know what boat you're in. Defense just got wore down and then of course the fumble by banks
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This.

Better to get going for 2 out of the way. That way you know if you have it or not and have the most time to plan around it. It also removes the situation of having to go for 2 in the final minutes or seconds in a hostile environment.
 
#47
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volfannbama said:
It doesnt really matter. I would have went for one, because it keeps it a 2 score game with a td and fg, which is significantly easier than 2 tds. So I would go with the combination that gives me the easiest.combination at a win / tie. Neither is right or wrong.
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The score was 24-12. Even if you go for 1 you’re looking at 24-13 and still in need of a field goal and 2 point conversion just to tie. You’re just delaying the inevitable and from a player standpoint the pressure of getting 2 when you presumably have more chances coming vs. getting 2 when it’s all on the line are much less.
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
The score was 24-12. Even if you go for 1 you’re looking at 24-13 and still in need of a field goal and 2 point conversion just to tie. You’re just delaying the inevitable and from a player standpoint the pressure of getting 2 when you presumably have more chances coming vs. getting 2 when it’s all on the line are much less.
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Which is why I said it really doesnt matter. Maybe the confidence of a 3rd.td gives them a boost to score the 2. In recent history uts best performances have been when their back was absolutely against the wall. But we.simply are.not fundamentally sound enough to be worried.about such details.anyway.
 
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