Dagreek1998
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I really struggle to understand the cool-aid drinkers sometimes. When I look at whats going on at Ole Miss and Miss St., I just have to wonder.
If you look at Ole Miss, Freeze inherits a program that went 24-26 in the four years before him and a roster filled with players representing the #19, #18, #18, #29 ranked classes. Thats no top 5, no top 10, no top 15 classes and and an overall average of #21. Not horrible, but far from great. In his first year, he finishes with a winning record and a bowl bid. His second year, he wins 8 games and another bowl bid. All awhile doing this in the SEC West, a heck of a lot tougher path than the SEC East. Now in his third year, he has slayed the giant and sits ranked in the top 5 with a firm grasp on the SEC championship and maybe even a national championship.
If you look at Miss. St., Mullen inherits a program that went 18-30 in the four years before him and a roster filled with players representing the #44, #39, #46, #33 ranked classes. Not a single top 25 class and an overall average of #41. Since then, he has went 41-28 with 4 straight bowl bids.Again, all awhile doing this in the SEC West. Now, Mullens has Miss St. ranked in the top 5 and considered a major factor in the national title hunt.
Now, look at Butch Jones. Yes, he inherited a team that went 23-27 in the four years before. But that is no worse than Freeze and alot better than Mullens. Now as for talent level, Butch inherited a roster comprised of the #17, #13, #9, #10 ranked classes. No, not everyone in those classes stayed, but I have a heard time believing that the class ended up being worse than Freeze and there is no way it was worse than what Mullens. Now, here we are with Butchs second year and could end up with another losing season. All awhile the crys of a young roster can be heard from every cool-aid drinker on this board.
To that I simply ask:
1) Is it easier to turn a team around in the SEC West?
2) Is it easier to turn Ole Miss or Miss St. around?
3) Has the rules changed and we can keep players for an extra 2 to 3 years, cause I can hear it next year? Offense is bad because no QB, Defense is bad because no AJ. The year after than, it will be QB not ready just yet and replacing most of the OL and secondary.
4) Why was it ok to want Fulmer gone for his loyalty with Sanders but not Butch with his loyalty for Bajakana? I mean you run the read option 73 times an Worley has kept it twice. If you don't block the guy on the end, he is going to make the tackle. At least fake a backside slant or something. And the passing on short yardage or the first and goal at Oklahoma, after we established the run game, and we through a pick 6.
I am not saying Butch should be fired, but he had better make some adjustments to his staff including the OL coach. I mean, coleman starting in place of Blair?? Really, neither of them may be able to block but at least the DL has farther to go to get around Blair.
Ok, Sunshine Sally, pipe back.
If you look at Ole Miss, Freeze inherits a program that went 24-26 in the four years before him and a roster filled with players representing the #19, #18, #18, #29 ranked classes. Thats no top 5, no top 10, no top 15 classes and and an overall average of #21. Not horrible, but far from great. In his first year, he finishes with a winning record and a bowl bid. His second year, he wins 8 games and another bowl bid. All awhile doing this in the SEC West, a heck of a lot tougher path than the SEC East. Now in his third year, he has slayed the giant and sits ranked in the top 5 with a firm grasp on the SEC championship and maybe even a national championship.
If you look at Miss. St., Mullen inherits a program that went 18-30 in the four years before him and a roster filled with players representing the #44, #39, #46, #33 ranked classes. Not a single top 25 class and an overall average of #41. Since then, he has went 41-28 with 4 straight bowl bids.Again, all awhile doing this in the SEC West. Now, Mullens has Miss St. ranked in the top 5 and considered a major factor in the national title hunt.
Now, look at Butch Jones. Yes, he inherited a team that went 23-27 in the four years before. But that is no worse than Freeze and alot better than Mullens. Now as for talent level, Butch inherited a roster comprised of the #17, #13, #9, #10 ranked classes. No, not everyone in those classes stayed, but I have a heard time believing that the class ended up being worse than Freeze and there is no way it was worse than what Mullens. Now, here we are with Butchs second year and could end up with another losing season. All awhile the crys of a young roster can be heard from every cool-aid drinker on this board.
To that I simply ask:
1) Is it easier to turn a team around in the SEC West?
2) Is it easier to turn Ole Miss or Miss St. around?
3) Has the rules changed and we can keep players for an extra 2 to 3 years, cause I can hear it next year? Offense is bad because no QB, Defense is bad because no AJ. The year after than, it will be QB not ready just yet and replacing most of the OL and secondary.
4) Why was it ok to want Fulmer gone for his loyalty with Sanders but not Butch with his loyalty for Bajakana? I mean you run the read option 73 times an Worley has kept it twice. If you don't block the guy on the end, he is going to make the tackle. At least fake a backside slant or something. And the passing on short yardage or the first and goal at Oklahoma, after we established the run game, and we through a pick 6.
I am not saying Butch should be fired, but he had better make some adjustments to his staff including the OL coach. I mean, coleman starting in place of Blair?? Really, neither of them may be able to block but at least the DL has farther to go to get around Blair.
Ok, Sunshine Sally, pipe back.
