Explain Fulmer 6-1 Overtime Record???

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It was brought up after the SC win that Coach Fulmer has an incredible OT win/loss ratio. This is statistically significant, i.e. more than random luck. If CPF is such a lousy coach, how do you explain this? I'm not a Fulmerite, but my personal opinion for this amazing OT sucess is: 1) Always have a great kicker (Hall, Wilhoit, Lincoln ....) 2) His basically conservative syle prevents disasterous plays that take the team out of scoring such as S. Carolina's first offensive play in OT.

(If you have an opinion please post and not turn this into Fulmer vs. anti-Fulmer debate):huh:
 
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Well if the comentators were correct hes at 5-1, I dont know which is right.


And 7 is way to small of a sample size to be statisticaly significant.
 
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It is a small sample, but with the record being so lopsided you have to wonder a little bit.
 
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if you look at every one of those games, it was a team to which we were clearly superior. we don't get to overtime with teams as talented as or better than we are.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
if you look at every one of those games, it was a team to which we were clearly superior. we don't get to overtime with teams as talented as or better than we are.
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I don't think we were "clearly superior" to LSU in Baton Rouge in 2005. But, for the most part, you're right...we were favored against every other opponent we went to extra innings with.
 
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He is awesome in overtime.

Arkansas, Alabama, LSU, and Steve Spurrior (thrice) - all horrible excuses for Overtime dominance.

We have a great OT coach. I do believe CPF conservative coaching style is to blame some, but mostly it is just about the great Vol tradition of winning, that Fulmer understands, to a Tee.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
I don't think we were "clearly superior" to LSU in Baton Rouge in 2005. But, for the most part, you're right...we were favored against every other opponent we went to extra innings with.
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Florida in 98 was a decent ranked team as well,

Out of the 7 games I believe 2 of them were top 5 opponents.
 
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Merlot said:
Florida in 98 was a decent ranked team as well,

Out of the 7 games I believe 2 of them were top 5 opponents.
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No question about it. In fact, I believe Florida was ranked higher than we were. But, Tennessee had the better football team in that game.

I don't think you can diminish his overtime record. It's impressive, no matter how you view him as a coach.
 
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UT has always had good FG kickers, and in overtime you usually end up kicking a FG. That might have something to do with it.
 
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Part of his overtime success can be attributed to having a good wide receiver core (and TE) paired up with a more than sufficient quarterback. I'll never forget watching Casey Clausen in overtime against Arkansas in 2002.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
if you look at every one of those games, it was a team to which we were clearly superior. we don't get to overtime with teams as talented as or better than we are.
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I think that's been true in a few instances such as against Arkansas, Alabama, but I'd say Florida in '98 and LSU in '05 were probably as good or better than we were and SC on Saturday night was close to a push talent-wise.
 
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i think the close games are in CPF's wheel house. Lex made reference to the style of play after the MSU game, as to the type of football that he's comfortable with. it also plays in to how CPF likes to make decisions on the conservative side.

defense, kicking game etc....give yourself a chance to win type mentality. it suits him well.
 
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OT generally comes down to a kicking match and nobody can touch the kickers we have had for the last 15 odd years. I still say one of the main reasons we won the NC in 98 was Jeff Hall. :rock:
 
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9/19/1998 at #6 Tennessee 20, #2 Florida 17 (OT)
9/30/2000 at LSU 38, #11 Tennessee 31 (OT)
10/5/2002 at #10 Tennessee 41, Arkansas 38 (6OT)
9/27/2003 at #8 Tennessee 23, South Carolina 20 (OT)
10/25/2003 #22 Tennessee 51, at Alabama 43 (5OT)
9/26/2005 #10 Tennessee 30, at #4 LSU 27 (OT)
10/27/2007 at Tennessee 27, #16 South Carolina 24 (OT)
 
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BigPapaVol said:
if you look at every one of those games, it was a team to which we were clearly superior. we don't get to overtime with teams as talented as or better than we are.
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I'm not sure how to have a thread like this and request utopia. What bigpapa says is very accurate......and why do we get there with these "lessers"? Lack of creativity, over-coaching to the point of stiffness, and grabbing a three point lead and trying to "take it to the house". Being a wonderful, UT loving, Tennessee to the bone coach with a dated and vanilla team style will help too.
 
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allvol said:
9/19/1998 at #6 Tennessee 20, #2 Florida 17 (OT)
9/30/2000 at LSU 38, #11 Tennessee 31 (OT)
10/5/2002 at #10 Tennessee 41, Arkansas 38 (6OT)
9/27/2003 at #8 Tennessee 23, South Carolina 20 (OT)
10/25/2003 #22 Tennessee 51, at Alabama 43 (5OT)
9/26/2005 #10 Tennessee 30, at #4 LSU 27 (OT)
10/27/2007 at Tennessee 27, #16 South Carolina 24 (OT)
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Rankings aside, if Spurrier has gone to SC and created a team from the ashes that is more than 16 spots ahead of ut then that may be at the root too. I don't really believe they are. Reducing the wide-open game of today to swapping chip shots under pressure SHOULD fall into our hands. It also produces 17 (and counting) losses over the last few years and being a non-factor in the league. It ain't just me.....ask people all over the south and the nation. "A rose is a rose is a rose"
 
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