Not sure I have ever seen him with the blackzillians, Jacksons, Team Quest, AKA or American Top Team. Plus going to visit to train isnt anything like spending your time training somewhere. I mean I got a lot out of going to camps for wrestling with the likes of Sanderson and Gable, however spending short periods of time with them isnt anywhere close to actually spending years training under them. His wrestling is terrible and its not because he isnt athletically gifted(who usually pick up wrestling much quicker than those like me that arent but have to train all the time). He has ok BJJ but he's gotten by on his athleticism in MMA, so once he got to the top it was no longer the gift compared to the others that are just as gifted but yet have better wrestling and BJJ. He's a gatekeeper and thats why he's now fighting the has beens of MMA like Rua and why he couldnt beat those like Reyes, Bader, Rothwell and others. It's great to be loyal, but it cost him a lot in his MMA career but he is a VFL and I'm proud of him!