ESPN still has hate for UT football period..always has........

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Good grief.ESPN does NOT hate TN nor do they hate anybody else. Just something for some of our dumba$$ fans to complain about. In my 35 years of being a Vol Fan, I've learned there is no more sensitive group than what we have. Everyone hates us, everyone is trying to ruin us, the refs hate us, ESPN hates us, CBS and the NCAA hates us ..Blah Fkn Blah! They obviously do not, but who cares if they did??
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
Uh, I’m sorry, but Woodson was a great player. He’s in the college and pro football hall of fame. One of the best defensive backs of all time. He’s not Peyton Manning, but he was an exceptional player.
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IMHO, he was a much better pro than college player. Part of his 'greatness' in college relates back to the Heisman he was handed. It becomes circular, a bit.

I'm not saying Woodson wasn't a great pro and a very, very good college player. He simply wasn't the beast in 1997. Manning was. ESPN decided otherwise.

Reasonable minds can differ on this point.
 
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VolInNW said:
IMHO, he was a much better pro than college player. Part of his 'greatness' in college relates back to the Heisman he was handed. It becomes circular, a bit.

I'm not saying Woodson wasn't a great pro and a very, very good college player. He simply wasn't the beast in 1997. Manning was. ESPN decided otherwise.

Reasonable minds can differ on this point.
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1997 wasn't Manning's best year in college
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
1997 wasn't Manning's best year in college
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Depends on how you judge "best". 1997 was his 1st or 2nd best statistical category in everything except Completion % (4th) and Interceptions (3rd). Of the 14 categories, 1997 was his best in 8 of them, 2nd in 4.
 
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orangebloodgmc said:
No, the northeastern yankees of espn have hated us at least as far back as when we hurt their feelings by beating Syracuse in 98. Feuds before and since with Penn State, Michigan and Lady Vols vs UConn also contributed. Then us rejecting their boy Schiano ... who do those trailer park hillbillies think they are!
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The persecution fetish extends beyond politics and religion, I see. Good for you. I hope you're having a wonderful time!
 
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whobethis16 said:
Depends on how you judge "best". 1997 was his 1st or 2nd best statistical category in everything except Completion % (4th) and Interceptions (3rd). Of the 14 categories, 1997 was his best in 8 of them, 2nd in 4.
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He had a couple of stinker games in 1997. Great stats don't account for situational play and timeliness. Having bad games against an outmatched Florida team and then Vanderbilt in the last regular season game kept him from winning the Heisman in a landslide
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
He had a couple of stinker games in 1997. Great stats don't account for situational play and timeliness. Having bad games against an outmatched Florida team and then Vanderbilt in the last regular season game kept him from winning the Heisman in a landslide
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What year do you think he didn't have any stinker games?
 
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Remember when ESPN was young and filled hours with Australian rules football?
 
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ESPN does NOT hate TN, nor have they ever have. It's just something some of our paranoid, everyone is out to get us fans think. They don't hate us,nor do they hate any other schools. ESPN is NOT out to get us and neither is anybody else. We've got way too many soft, thin skinned fans. Would hate to see what other paranoia they have. Lots Our fans are some kind of special, I'll give them that!Great thing is, Great thing is, EVERY other fanbase thinks the same thing, so it's not quite as embarrassing or noticeable as it could be.
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
Uh, I’m sorry, but Woodson was a great player. He’s in the college and pro football hall of fame. One of the best defensive backs of all time. He’s not Peyton Manning, but he was an exceptional player.
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Good post.

I have no idea why ESPN campaigned for Woodson, but I don't think they did it out of malice towards UT or Manning. It still bothers me because it affected Manning, though.

Admittedly, the Heisman has always been more of a subjective award than an objective award. The fact that there was no modern precedent at the time for defensive players in Heisman voting is what bothers me about ESPN's campaigning.

Why didn't ESPN campaign for Champ Bailey in 98 if they had an objective reason to campaign for Woodson in 97?

ESPN doesn't hate us. We were just collateral damage. That's reason enough for us to hate them.
 
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MemphisVol77 said:
Good post.

I have no idea why ESPN campaigned for Woodson, but I don't think they did it out of malice towards UT or Manning. It still bothers me because it affected Manning, though.

Admittedly, the Heisman has always been more of a subjective award than an objective award. The fact that there was no modern precedent at the time for defensive players in Heisman voting is what bothers me about ESPN's campaigning.

Why didn't ESPN campaign for Champ Bailey in 98 if they had an objective reason to campaign for Woodson in 97?

ESPN doesn't hate us. We were just collateral damage. That's reason enough for us to hate them.
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Because he went to Michigan lol. They will always suck off Notre Dame, Ohio State and Michigan. Why? They have massive fan bases, deep pockets and big time alumni. Even more than some of the other big time brands. People say ESPN has SEC bias and I just don’t buy that lol. Nobody in the northeast really roots for the SEC, but they definitely root for Notre Dame, Ohio State and Michigan.
 
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