ESPN+: Lessons for six former CFB powers (Tennessee)

[GrizzlyVol]

It’s not true. Money has never been a problem with coaching hires.

They gave Kiffin the biggest assistant pool in the country at the time in 2009.

They offered Muschamp 7 years/$21M in 2010 when that was a significant amount of money (top 10-15 money at the time for a never has been head coach). Muschamp declined because he didn’t want a huge rebuild.

They offered Kirby $4M, but Kirby did the same thing as Muschamp. Didn’t want a full rebuild for his first job.

They offered Strong over $4M and a large pool for assistants. Strong wanted a better job, Louisville met his demands and was fine waiting one more year for it.

Money has never been an issue at UT for football coaches (look at the buyouts!). It’s just incompetent leadership.

Say what you will I know when it came to coach Fulmer hiring a new oc he was allowed a set amount. What we offered to someone else many many times has nothing to do with my statement.

 

[Volmac2022]

The other side of that is that if he succeeds... he's gone if you haven't taken care of him.

Well if he succeeds then give him a pay out of $8m plus bonuses that cap out to $10m.

 

[sjt18]

Well if he succeeds then give him a pay out of $8m plus bonuses that cap out to $10m.

You want to let a successful coach leave after what we've endured?

 

[Volmac2022]

You want to let a successful coach leave after what we've endured?

I never said that or hinted at that

 

[sjt18]

I never said that or hinted at that

Maybe I misunderstood.

In my experience, the impact of a raise is completely different when you do it proactively because your recognize someone deserves it versus when someone is forced to ask for/demand a raise. One says "we value you and want to take care of you"... the other says "you're a commodity we want to buy as cheap as we can".

 

[Volmac2022]

Maybe I misunderstood.

In my experience, the impact of a raise is completely different when you do it proactively because your recognize someone deserves it versus when someone is forced to ask for/demand a raise. One says "we value you and want to take care of you"... the other says "you're a commodity we want to buy as cheap as we can".

I get that but vols in the past have given raises to coaches who didn't deserve it and we ended up wasting millions. I just don't want to get stuck in that again

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Difference between Fulmer and Saban is adaptability, as you say, and skill at hiring assistants.

The difference in Saban and every other coach is the same as the difference in Saban & Fulmer. To claim otherwise may be agenda based....

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

The difference in Saban and every other coach is the same as the difference in Saban & Fulmer. To claim otherwise may be agenda based....

What are you trying to say, exactly?