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Volfan2012 said:
The way I see it cause you can't limit player or recruits earnings anymore. That is the way the NCAA kept it all under wraps before NIL. Sure there is an agreement and certain the schools wanted it, that you only pay a certain share of revenue to athletes. That will keep the schools from going broke. Now comes how much can a player or recruit make on the outside of the school payment and how do you stop anyone individual person from paying any amount? This is the next problem I see on the horizon.
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They want control everyone, they just control the ones they want to control. Hope you know that just about every school was paying players under the table. Alabama and OSU didn't get all the best players just on name alone they were paying with impunity , NCAA turned there head. Where as most other schools had to hid it or get busted and put on probation. NCAA just wanting there power back so they can choose who they want to be able to ( cheat ) and grease there palms .
 
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creekdipper said:
Am I understanding the revenue-sharing article above correctly...that Connecticut's women bb team members can receive over $1 million each?
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If recall Kellie Harper had Marta set up to try to get over Seas outside the American NIL deals.
Buy having photographer take pictures for possible NIL deals.
When Tennessee was outside of America.
Still non American players can get NIL deals outside of the United States.
Not sure but they might have to sign outside of the United States.
Tennessee incoming freshman can just go to Canada to sign and get NIL deals.
Lot harder for players to cross an ocean
 
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mudcat1973 said:
Odds of America Congress passing anti trust law for NCAA ?
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Almost everything needs regulating JMO cause people always let things get out of control otherwise. They find loopholes and think up ways to do as they please. We need some controls of the situation either by the NCAA or someone. Pro sports have limits and salary caps we need that in college as well. Still does not stop and no way to stop what anyone company or organization is willing to pay a person for their services. That is the one part that is going to make a lot of college athletes with exceptional talent extremely rich while in college. At least it will only be like 10 to 25 athletes per sport that will get these huge offers and create bidding wars. They will come mostly from football, mens basketball, and sometimes from womens basketball, mens baseball and once or twice womens softball. Other sports don't see anything to worry about.

Stopping the salary cap agreement of 20.5 million per school would only make a disaster worse. We at least need that to be a control for part of it.
 
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volsagain said:
They want control everyone, they just control the ones they want to control. Hope you know that just about every school was paying players under the table. Alabama and OSU didn't get all the best players just on name alone they were paying with impunity , NCAA turned there head. Where as most other schools had to hid it or get busted and put on probation. NCAA just wanting there power back so they can choose who they want to be able to ( cheat ) and grease there palms .
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There been a lot movie and TV shows about money under the table over the years.
Think the third party monitoring would be employed by the conference not the NCAA.
But there's always a chance some university will try to pay them to look the other way.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Almost everything needs regulating JMO cause people always let things get out of control otherwise. They find loopholes and think up ways to do as they please. We need some controls of the situation either by the NCAA or someone. Pro sports have limits and salary caps we need that in college as well. Still does not stop and no way to stop what anyone company or organization is willing to pay a person for their services. That is the one part that is going to make a lot of college athletes with exceptional talent extremely rich while in college. At least it will only be like 10 to 25 athletes per sport that will get these huge offers and create bidding wars. They will come mostly from football, mens basketball, and sometimes from womens basketball, mens baseball and once or twice womens softball. Other sports don't see anything to worry about.

Stopping the salary cap agreement of 20.5 million per school would only make a disaster worse. We at least need that to be a control for part of it.
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Agreement think cap main purpose is limited money university's speeding
Think cap is staying If the university have there way.
American Congress could help with keeping NIL deals fair and keeping the players from sueing all the time.
Anti trust law exceptions for college sports.
Don't know much about said laws myself.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
What Will College Athletic Department Revenue-Sharing Look Like?
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@creekdipper
Every true tiger brands LLC, has invoiced Missouri athletics for roughly 16.4 million from September 2023 through December 2024 the monthly invoices show the number recipients and owed by sport.

Here a comparison between Missouri spending and Texas tech revenue sharing plans for the four sports with the highest spending percentages

Clink article see chart Texas tech revenue sharing plans and Missouri spending from 2003 to 2024
Read also two or Three paragraphs below chart.
Tells what Missouri % of revenue Missouri spend on football 65.4%. of 16.4 million and 23.2% on basketball.
Don't say how much Missouri women's basketball speed during 2023-2024

Missouri said they going to spend the max amount by the cap.
And promised to increase women's basketball spending.

If every true tiger brands LLC has invoiced Mizzou athletes for 16.4 million though September 2023 to December 2024.
Is university's already paying athletes?
Question for deerpark12 or any one?
@DeerPark12
Seems to me the university are reimbursing collectives already
 
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mudcat1973 said:
American Congress could help with keeping NIL deals fair and keeping the players from sueing all the time.
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“fair” is a subjective judgement, unless you believe that markets reflect somebody’s sense of value: when a buyer and a seller agree, that is a fair market price. I don't trust Congress, owned by the highest bidder, to do a better job.

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Anti trust law exceptions for college sports.
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Why? So the inept NCAA and the self-interested universities can surpress the earning opportunities for college athletes?
 
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1reVOLver said:
“fair” is a subjective judgement, unless you believe that markets reflect somebody’s sense of value: when a buyer and a seller agree, that is a fair market price. I don't trust Congress, owned by the highest bidder, to do a better job.


Why? So the inept NCAA and the self-interested universities can surpress the earning opportunities for college athletes?
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I read one article about third-party monitoring would decide if a player should get hundreds or thousand dollars base on a player market value. At a event promoting a sponsor
Seen they would take players media following as one of the
ways to access market marketabilit.
There a lot Yahoo's and some good information people writing articles on this subject.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
Google Search
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Here way some of those NIL collective deals are going bye-bye.
Missouri athletic department reimbursed everytime tiger brands could not get link to work.
So posted a Google link to Missouri sponsor NIL which does work.
Missouri or any other university's Will not be getting invoiced for their NIL collective when cap starts officially.

If a university has control of NIL collective by funding it.
Then university have say on which sports at a university they support. Football men's basketball women's basketball baseball soccer softball volleyball gymnastics track and field swimming .
So it's not just the boosters and donors who been funding NIL collective but athletic Directors supported by the university also.

So Dawn Staley was saying after next season she have less of a pot after 2025-2026 season would be true if South Carolina is reimbursing a NIL collective of their own.
Because of the cap.

How many collective are being funded by by universities
Missouri every true tiger was founded in 2022
 
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Google Search
Missouri tigers revenue sharing plans Google search link.
Maybe there is hope for Kellie Harper after next season if revenue sharing period levels the playing field some.

For @creekdipper
Would not have run out of fingers and toes counting stories I have read about Missouri NIL collective and their revenue sharing plans.
But if throw in in general articles about NIL collective and sharing plans of NCAA as whole mark on a paper how many rounds I was on .
 
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How Tennessee athletes and a Knoxville collective are cleaning up big with NIL deals

Spare was ranked the most ambitious NIL collective in the country by college sports news outlet ON3
Article lists Tennessee top 10 amount NIL by athletic at the time of that article.

Point guard Santiago Vescovi is the first non football player on UT list and first basketball player.
Ranking #72 $99,000
Lady Vols Rickey Jackson ranking #73 $81,000

See where someone gets Tennessee get the best NIL collective from..
@chuckiepoo
 
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On3's top 15 NIL collectives in college sports

Article written 8/29/2024
Every true tiger #10 NIL according to on3

Missouri pass a state law allowing NIL collective to receive institution funds.

Missouri new athletic director is improving there athletic department.
Let's see if he keeps his word on supporting women's basketball more.

There's is information about top 15 collective.
Tells something about all fifteen...
Tennessee is listed #2

Don't think there all fifteen are listed by which university spending by the most dollars .
Because some of the football NIL big spending teams where not on the list..
Teams that spend more were not listed in order of spending by top dollar and second most spending in football and so on.

But on3 opinion on NIL collective how they are being set up.
As some has said some university's have larger donors than others.
@creekdipper
Ohio state buckeyes #1
Was probably why little Sister went to Ohio state buckeyes women's basketball.
And maybe not the reason but it didn't hurt.
64 Kitts women's basketball post player
 
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mudcat1973 said:
On3's top 15 NIL collectives in college sports

Article written 8/29/2024
Every true tiger #10 NIL according to on3

Missouri pass a state law allowing NIL collective to receive institution funds.

Missouri new athletic director is improving there athletic department.
Let's see if he keeps his word on supporting women's basketball more.

There's is information about top 15 collective.
Tells something about all fifteen...
Tennessee is listed #2

Don't think there all fifteen are listed by which university spending by the most dollars .
Because some of the football NIL big spending teams where not on the list..
Teams that spend more were not listed in order of spending by top dollar and second most spending in football and so on.

But on3 opinion on NIL collective how they are being set up.
As some has said some university's have larger donors than others.
@creekdipper
Ohio state buckeyes #1
Was probably why little Sister went to Ohio state buckeyes women's basketball.
And maybe not the reason but it didn't hurt.
64 Kitts women's basketball post player
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These collective don't act independent from a university's athletic department.
Some are more business sponsor than others.
Some have sales of products like shoes and player's Jersey's.
Two university listed +4000 donors in a club or group giving money to support the university NIL.
Other 13 didn't list how many where in group of fans sponsor a club/group supporting NIL collective for there university can go after athletes.
Missouri pass a state law to fund NIL collective from the institutional.
With the house vs NCAA settlement they be more universitys
Paying athletics directly from ticket sales and TV contracts and so on.
And more universitys will have money to spend to on acquiring athletes. Which will help more athletes overall.

Top fifteen NIL collective was mostly listed by football first and
by men's basketball was taking next important in there list on3 listing top fifteen NIL collective.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
These collective don't act independent from a university's athletic department.
Some are more business sponsor than others.
Some have sales of products like shoes and player's Jersey's.
Two university listed +4000 donors in a club or group giving money to support the university NIL.
Other 13 didn't list how many where in group of fans sponsor a club/group supporting NIL collective for there university can go after athletes.
Missouri pass a state law to fund NIL collective from the institutional.
With the house vs NCAA settlement they be more universitys
Paying athletics directly from ticket sales and TV contracts and so on.
And more universitys will have money to spend to on acquiring athletes. Which will help more athletes overall.

Top fifteen NIL collective was mostly listed by football first and
by men's basketball was taking next important in there list on3 listing top fifteen NIL collective.
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I used to think Tennessee collective was bunch big donors.
Got that from posters talking about boosters.
I'm sure Tennessee has some big donors to.
but just a little digging it didn't take long to find out .
The volunteer club had 4,191 members at the time of that on3 article. See that some of Tennessee baseball was support to .

The Grove Collective old miss had 6000 members
Clink link there link in on3 article it lists
Sports they support football. Basketball, baseball, women's basketball.
And it listed other sports supported men's track volleyball women's soccer women's track.

Tennessee and old miss was the only university's that on3 listed membership numbers in fan supported NIL collective.
 
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So back to the original topic of this post what ever happened with Chasity Rowe. Did Kentucky just sweep it under the rug and leave it like it was or did she get some kind of assistance to keep paying for her school. Brooks needs to pay for what he did in this situation.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
So back to the original topic of this post what ever happened with Chasity Rowe. Did Kentucky just sweep it under the rug and leave it like it was or did she get some kind of assistance to keep paying for her school. Brooks needs to pay for what he did in this situation.
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Haven't heard anything else besides she going to finish her degree in physical therapy.
And pay for her senior year herself.
I'm sure it will hurt Kentucky most with non WNBA bound players out of high school.
Players like in men's basketball who have skills that need a year or two to be ready.
Players who are good college players who will be longshots for WNBA will think twice before signing with wildcats out high school.
If Kentucky wildcat women's basketball will not even support a player injury while practicing and playing for wildcat nation.
Kenny Brooks don't have blue tears.
Like a fan favorite Cassidy Rowe does.

Kenny Brooks and Kentucky wildcat women's basketball run by the head coach and supported by University of Kentucky Administration.
Only care about green tears
Don't want waste there money on a player who injury her knees playing for the wildcat nation.

I'm sure some fans of Kentucky will not support Kenny Brooks while he's there.

Other universitys will probably try use it against Kentucky if a recuit is 50/50 on picking a college.

Do not think there any rule against a university giving a scholarship to a player not on a team.
Since university give scholarship to non athletes.

Cassidy Rowe or fans should start a go fund me account if Kentucky won't do her fairly. I'm sure some in wildcat nation would chip in in Kentucky won't do Cassidy Rowe right.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
Haven't heard anything else besides she going to finish her degree in physical therapy.
And pay for her senior year herself.
I'm sure it will hurt Kentucky most with non WNBA bound players out of high school.
Players like in men's basketball who have skills that need a year or two to be ready.
Players who are good college players who will be longshots for WNBA will think twice before signing with wildcats out high school.
If Kentucky wildcat women's basketball will not even support a player injury while practicing and playing for wildcat nation.
Kenny Brooks don't have blue tears.
Like a fan favorite Cassidy Rowe does.

Kenny Brooks and Kentucky wildcat women's basketball run by the head coach and supported by University of Kentucky Administration.
Only care about green tears
Don't want waste there money on a player who injury her knees playing for the wildcat nation.

I'm sure some fans of Kentucky will not support Kenny Brooks while he's there.

Other universitys will probably try use it against Kentucky if a recuit is 50/50 on picking a college.

Do not think there any rule against a university giving a scholarship to a player not on a team.
Since university give scholarship to non athletes.

Cassidy Rowe or fans should start a go fund me account if Kentucky won't do her fairly. I'm sure some in wildcat nation would chip in in Kentucky won't do Cassidy Rowe right.
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Hopefully recruits will see this for years to come and not go to Kentucky. To bad what happened there make me look at Kentucky as not caring about their players.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
COLUMN: Letting go of Cassidy Rowe was an act of betrayal to Kentuckians
From a Kentuckian @Volfan2012
He sums up Cassidy Rowe situation better because he's a Kentuckian
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When I did Cassidy Rowe Google news search
The one of the lasted stories/ post I found was from Cassidy Rowe Instagram.
"Praise God for an empty tomb"
Don't see where Cassidy Rowe is bad mouthing Kentucky wildcat she still loyal like the article said.
Kentucky women's basketball turn there back on her.
 
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