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Today is the day
Article says more lawsuits ahead.
More than a dozen lawsuits remain open despite settlement

At least one school has already decided to reclassify Saint Francis plans to drop from division 1 to division 2
Their getting away from this payment of player's

Article has a picture of Tennessee celebration after wining national championship in baseball and
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mudcat1973 said:
Today is the day
Article says more lawsuits ahead.
More than a dozen lawsuits remain open despite settlement

At least one school has already decided to reclassify Saint Francis plans to drop from division 1 to division 2
Their getting away from this payment of player's

Article has a picture of Tennessee celebration after wining national championship in baseball and
@chuckiepoo for the baseball crazy fans
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Football teams and women's basketball teams for that matter will not to be able to pay more 600 to athletes to just be on a team.
Since NIL deals will have to be fair market value advertising or appearance fee's.
Texas A&M in football I think was giving a money even to walk-ons.
And their aleast one women's basketball team giving all of team NIL money.
 
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Looks like pay for play has better chance going through than not.
House side has no objections to grandfather in players that would be over the roasters limits in the settlement. NCAA said they are going to asked their clients.
Seems like the judge will approved this by summer.
Read couple articles they think it's still on path to get done.
Link works read any story you want about settlement.
Post Google search of house settlement
 
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NCAA settlement Q&A: How will schools distribute revenue, what is the future of NIL collectives and more

The landmark $2.8B deal topples the NCAA’s long-standing rules around amateurism and could help protect the organization from future legal challenges. But plenty of questions remain as to how it'll all work.
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Should football and men basketball keep a close watch on their lions share of revenue sharing money.
Possibly of sharing 50% with women's sports.
title 9 nine lawsuits
 
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NCAA settlement Q&A: How will schools distribute revenue, what is the future of NIL collectives and more

The landmark $2.8B deal topples the NCAA’s long-standing rules around amateurism and could help protect the organization from future legal challenges. But plenty of questions remain as to how it'll all work.
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Should football and men basketball keep a close watch on their lions share of revenue sharing money.
Possibly of sharing 50% with women's sports.
title 9 nine lawsuits
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A reporting mechanism that Will require athletes to report their third party NIL deals.
possibly a mandatory measure tired to a player's revenue share and from the school and their eligibility.

Like this one if take revenue sharing money tied it to eligibility reporting third-party NIL deals.
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Sunshine may be coming
 
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mudcat1973 said:
sports.yahoo.com

NCAA settlement Q&A: How will schools distribute revenue, what is the future of NIL collectives and more

The landmark $2.8B deal topples the NCAA’s long-standing rules around amateurism and could help protect the organization from future legal challenges. But plenty of questions remain as to how it'll all work.
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Should football and men basketball keep a close watch on their lions share of revenue sharing money.
Possibly of sharing 50% with women's sports.
title 9 nine lawsuits
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Some are talking about increasing spending women's scholarships to satisfy title 9 nine
 
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How will the House v. NCAA settlement, revenue sharing impact women’s college basketball?

As Staley figures out next season roaster, She sees a third party NIL pot that larger than what she expects to have for direct revenue sharing payments.
That just doesn't add up Staley said.
The Gamecocks NIL budget will get a boost playing in Thanksgiving players tournament.

ESPN annalist former Standford star Ogwumike
Other schools can be competived Because of the money.

If this revenue sharing period puts tight er control on some top teams NIL spending.they could be more teams with a chance to get better players.
That article first article posted said unconn plans to spend around 11% women's basketball revenue sharing post #34 what Will college athletic department revenue sharing look like .
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Why Direct Student-Athlete Payments Create An Immigration Crisis For Universities

From student issue to institutional liability

Historically, NIL -related immigration compliance was seen as a concern only for individual athletes. If international students athletes violated the terms of their F-1 visa, the consequences -visa revocation, deportation, or reentry denials were theirs alone to bear.

Still no help for non American players.
If want you see university's liability it's in this article.

Side note that thing that looks like a chain if use that longer links post better put in by enter link yourself.
Because if link is over two lines most of the time something will go wrong even if it's matching link perfect
 
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Am I understanding the revenue-sharing article above correctly...that Connecticut's women bb team members can receive over $1 million each?
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Unconn is planning on spending 11.2 % of their share of revenue sharing 20.5 million dollars on women's basketball.
Teams university's that don't care as much about football will have more to spend on football than football schools like Tennessee.
Unconn and basketball schools will spend more on basketball than football schools like Tennessee and Georgia.
There only so much of 20.5 to split for a university's different sports teams.
 
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Am I understanding the revenue-sharing article above correctly...that Connecticut's women bb team members can receive over $1 million each?
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The revenue sharing would be 11.2 percent of 20.5 million which is 2.75 million for the entire team. Not that the players couldn't get a million each, but not from the school. I mean it is possible now for you to take a photo with a player and pay them a million dollars for it if you so desired. The settle gives each school a sum of money to divide up among their athletes in any way they desire. I think Tennessee is 20.5 million and they were determining the womens basketball share to be 2.6 percent. It could be more up to the school. That would be pay from the school not affecting any outside Nil deals that the players had. Also any Nil deal worth over 600 dollars would have to be reported. I think this would be to try to prevent someone paying a player 1 million for a picture although I don't see how they are going to be able to police that without a lawsuit being filed. I don't know how they are going to keep the boosters out of it no matter how they do it. People pay millions for one baseball card or other items how could you stop somone wanting to pay any amount for anything a player had. Although there will be reporting over what the school pays hard for me to understand what the plan is to keep people from paying any amount they want for an item even if we all know it is not worth it and is more a payment to get the player to stay or come play at a particular school.

I guess you could try to cap what a player can earn overall while still in school just don't see that being legal. At least all power five schools payments to athletes will be capped at 20.5 million for all the SEC schools and they can divide it up anyway they desire. Fairly logical assumption that football players will be the biggest winners, then mens basketball, womens basketball and mens baseball might be on every footing, then softball. The rest of the sports might end up with basically very little.
 
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mudcat1973 said:
Unconn 11% of 20.5 million= 2,7500,000 around not guaranteed exactly number.
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That would work out to about a little more than 183000 a player if you had a 15 player roster. Tennessee would only be 35,500 if they went with the 2.6 percent. Tennessee will never go 11.2 percent for womens basketball so how we get the total up there is yet to be determined. This is only the schools payments. Still trying to see a way where individuals could boost the basketball play at football schools with indivisual donations. I know they want to cut out the collectives, but could one person give a million if they wanted to divide up among players? Not everything is clear.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
The revenue sharing would be 11.2 percent of 20.5 million which is 2.5 million for the entire team. Not that the players couldn't get a million each, but not from the school. I mean it is possible now for you to take a photo with a player and pay them a million dollars for it if you so desired. The settle gives each school a sum of money to divide up among their athletes in any way they desire. I think Tennessee is 20.5 million and they were determining the womens basketball share to be 2.6 percent. It could be more up to the school. That would be pay from the school not affecting any outside Nil deals that the players had. Also any Nil deal worth over 600 dollars would have to be reported. I think this would be to try to prevent someone paying a player 1 million for a picture although I don't see how they are going to be able to police that without a lawsuit being filed. I don't know how they are going to keep the boosters out of it no matter how they do it. People pay millions for one baseball card or other items how could you stop somone wanting to pay any amount for anything a player had. Although there will be reporting over what the school pays hard for me to understand what the plan is to keep people from paying any amount they want for an item even if we all know it is not worth it and is more a payment to get the player to stay or come play at a particular school.

I guess you could try to cap what a player can earn overall while still in school just don't see that being legal. At least all power five schools payments to athletes will be capped at 20.5 million for all the SEC schools and they can divide it up anyway they desire. Fairly logical assumption that football players will be the biggest winners, then mens basketball, womens basketball and mens baseball might be on every footing, then softball. The rest of the sports might end up with basically very little.
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Unconn plan possibly
Men's basketball 50.3%
Football 18.7%
Women's basketball 11.2
Unconn going to spend big on men's basketball.
Good thing no one expecting much now and in the future of there football team.
Surprised they are going to spend more on there football team than women's basketball team.
 
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I read that NIL deals money for just playing is going away.
They aleast will have to sign things do appearance fee's and that third party monitoring will police NIL collective from over paying for signing fee's bigger name players might still do TV commercial deals like Nike and sports drinks.
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That would work out to about a little more than 183000 a player if you had a 15 player roster. Tennessee would only be 35,500 if they went with the 2.6 percent. Tennessee will never go 11.2 percent for womens basketball so how we get the total up there is yet to be determined. This is only the schools payments. Still trying to see a way where individuals could boost the basketball play at football schools with indivisual donations. I know they want to cut out the collectives, but could one person give a million if they wanted to divide up among players? Not everything is clear.
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mudcat1973 said:
I read that NIL deals money for just playing is going away.
They aleast will have to sign things do appearance fee's and that third party monitoring will police NIL collective from over paying for signing fee's bigger name players might still do TV commercial deals like Nike and sports drinks.
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Still the question is how much are you allowed to pay for a player to do any one job? I mean could you pay them a million dollars to mow your yard legally. That is the question I need answered and the one that will determine who gets the top players. Cause if you can pay any amount or fee for any job a player does plenty rich people out there that will do it. They are going to try to police it with reporting, but how are they going to be able to do it without getting sued by the players. If soneone wants to pay you a big amount for something wonder how that will be stopped.

I mean if all they could make is what the school pays and second anything they do had an adjusted price limit then that would keep players from getting huge amounts like they are now for doing nothing. The problem is you can't limit what a player makes so there would be a need to limit what anyone could pay for any particular performance or appearance. I don't see how they are going to be able to do that hope they can cause it then becomes a bidding war for players even if they are just doing causal jobs.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Still the question is how much are you allowed to pay for a player to do any one job? I mean could you pay them a million dollars to mow your yard legally. That is the question I need answered and the one that will determine who gets the top players. Cause if you can pay any amount or fee for any job a player does plenty rich people out there that will do it. They are going to try to police it with reporting, but how are they going to be able to do it without getting sued by the players. If soneone wants to pay you a big amount for something wonder how that will be stopped.

I mean if all they could make is what the school pays and second anything they do had an adjusted price limit then that would keep players from getting huge amounts like they are now for doing nothing. The problem is you can't limit what a player makes so there would be a need to limit what anyone could pay for any particular performance or appearance. I don't see how they are going to be able to do that hope they can cause it then becomes a bidding war for players even if they are just doing causal jobs.
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First time a athletes thinks they should be paid what different athlete made at a car dealerships appearance fee's or there signing fee's .
They might try to sue.
If conferences who are giving the third-party Authority Will back the third party monitoring it might work.
Especially if athletes take payment and sign something for payment from the university
Might need Congress to pass something @Volfan2012
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Still the question is how much are you allowed to pay for a player to do any one job? I mean could you pay them a million dollars to mow your yard legally. That is the question I need answered and the one that will determine who gets the top players. Cause if you can pay any amount or fee for any job a player does plenty rich people out there that will do it. They are going to try to police it with reporting, but how are they going to be able to do it without getting sued by the players. If soneone wants to pay you a big amount for something wonder how that will be stopped.

I mean if all they could make is what the school pays and second anything they do had an adjusted price limit then that would keep players from getting huge amounts like they are now for doing nothing. The problem is you can't limit what a player makes so there would be a need to limit what anyone could pay for any particular performance or appearance. I don't see how they are going to be able to do that hope they can cause it then becomes a bidding war for players even if they are just doing causal jobs.
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I betting it want change anything except what the school is going to divvy out for all the athletes. Just like you said you can't tell anyone how much they can make for any service they perform, ie or there will be a lawsuit. So if you're willing to pay 100,000.00 to get your lawn mowed no one can stop you and make you pay 50.00 bucks. It may eliminate collectives but all major players ie schools will find a way or it will be under the table the way Alabama and OSU and many others were already doing.
 
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volsagain said:
I betting it want change anything except what the school is going to divvy out for all the athletes. Just like you said you can't tell anyone how much they can make for any service they perform, ie or there will be a lawsuit. So if you're willing to pay 100,000.00 to get your lawn mowed no one can stop you and make you pay 50.00 bucks. It may eliminate collectives but all major players ie schools will find a way or it will be under the table the way Alabama and OSU and many others were already doing.
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The way I see it cause you can't limit player or recruits earnings anymore. That is the way the NCAA kept it all under wraps before NIL. Sure there is an agreement and certain the schools wanted it, that you only pay a certain share of revenue to athletes. That will keep the schools from going broke. Now comes how much can a player or recruit make on the outside of the school payment and how do you stop anyone individual person from paying any amount? This is the next problem I see on the horizon.
 
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volsagain said:
I betting it want change anything except what the school is going to divvy out for all the athletes. Just like you said you can't tell anyone how much they can make for any service they perform, ie or there will be a lawsuit. So if you're willing to pay 100,000.00 to get your lawn mowed no one can stop you and make you pay 50.00 bucks. It may eliminate collectives but all major players ie schools will find a way or it will be under the table the way Alabama and OSU and many others were already doing.
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One thing the university are probably most interested in is keeping a set amount for there self.
The cap will keep a limit on how much money athletes Will get directly from the university they are playing for.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
The way I see it cause you can't limit player or recruits earnings anymore. That is the way the NCAA kept it all under wraps before NIL. Sure there is an agreement and certain the schools wanted it, that you only pay a certain share of revenue to athletes. That will keep the schools from going broke. Now comes how much can a player or recruit make on the outside of the school payment and how do you stop anyone individual person from paying any amount? This is the next problem I see on the horizon.
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Odds of America Congress passing anti trust law for NCAA ?
 
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