Economic Upheaval Coming With Artificial Intelligence

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#126
Why are we worried about more mass surveillance? There is literally a camera everywhere you go that is connected to the NCIS database. Flock Solar cameras are everywhere now. We are rarely out of reach from cameras that can track us/know who we are.

The autonomous weapon needs to be created; because other countries will use the same type weapons as well. I think the world is cooked and we are all screwed.

I may be completely wrong about the above statement; but my best advice would be to ensure you are right with the lord and have your eternity sealed. It’s pretty much too late to ever return to a normal life. I think Covid was a planned event to rid the world of 40–60% of its population and the plan failed.

Future generations are in for a sad experience. The life that the NYC bums voted for will be what they will be living.
 
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MontyPython said:
Someone's gonna need to explain this whole situation to me real slow and special... like I'm a 2nd grade, paste-eating, exceptional child. Because this whole situation makes exactly zero sense.

Hegseth: "You can't tell us what to do. You must allow us the ability to have autonomous weapons and mass surveillance if we want. Anthropic, you're fired. Now we have a beautiful new, big and better contract with OpenAI".

OpenAI: "Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement."
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Just need to follow the money trail and you'll find out why the Trump admin does what it does. Its about money. Thats all.
 
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MontyPython said:
Here’s a categorized list of products with strict usage restrictions where manufacturers can refuse service, void warranties, deactivate, or require return of the product if instructions, terms, or safety conditions are not followed.

🏥 Medical & Health Devices (Prescription / Regulated Use)​


1. Insulin Pumps​

Consumer: Diabetic patients (prescription only)
Restriction: Must follow prescribed dosage and maintenance procedures
Manufacturer Action: Warranty void, device lockout, or recall if tampered with

2. CPAP Machines​

Consumer: Sleep apnea patients (prescription required)
Restriction: Must use approved masks, filters, and settings
Manufacturer Action: Warranty void if modified or improperly cleaned

3. Home Dialysis Machines​

Consumer: Kidney failure patients (certified training required)
Restriction: Strict sanitation and operational protocol
Manufacturer Action: Service refusal or mandatory return if misuse detected

4. Implantable Cardiac Devices​

Consumer: Cardiac patients (hospital-installed only)
Restriction: Cannot be altered or exposed to certain conditions
Manufacturer Action: Device recall or refusal of support if tampered with

💻 Technology & Licensed Electronics​


5. Gaming Consoles​

Consumer: General public
Restriction: No hardware/software modification (no jailbreaking)
Manufacturer Action: Account bans, online access removal, warranty void

6. Enterprise Software​

Consumer: Licensed businesses
Restriction: User-count and usage limits in license agreement
Manufacturer Action: License termination, forced deactivation

7. Commercial Drones​

Consumer: Licensed drone operators
Restriction: Must follow aviation laws and geofencing rules
Manufacturer Action: Remote disablement, warranty void

8. Industrial 3D Printers​

Consumer: Certified industrial users
Restriction: Approved materials only
Manufacturer Action: Service contract termination if improper materials used

🏗️ Industrial & Professional Equipment​


9. Forklifts​

Consumer: Certified operators
Restriction: Licensed operation only
Manufacturer Action: Warranty void if used by untrained personnel

10. Commercial Deep Fryers​

Consumer: Restaurants / commercial kitchens
Restriction: Proper oil type and ventilation required
Manufacturer Action: Refusal of service if safety guidelines ignored

11. Restricted Pesticide Equipment​

Consumer: Licensed applicators
Restriction: Legal usage limits and documentation
Manufacturer Action: Product retrieval or legal reporting if misused

12. Scissor Lifts / Aerial Platforms​

Consumer: Certified construction operators
Restriction: Weight limits and safety protocols
Manufacturer Action: Warranty cancellation if misuse documented

🚗 Vehicles & High-Value Consumer Products​


13. Electric Vehicle Batteries​

Consumer: Vehicle owners under warranty
Restriction: No unauthorized repair or modification
Manufacturer Action: Warranty void or refusal to replace battery

14. Luxury Watches​

Consumer: Individual buyers
Restriction: Service must be done by authorized centers
Manufacturer Action: Warranty void if opened by unauthorized repairers

15. Leased Vehicles​

Consumer: Lease holders
Restriction: Mileage limits and condition requirements
Manufacturer Action: Vehicle repossession or penalties

16. Smartphones​

Consumer: General public
Restriction: No rooting or hardware tampering
Manufacturer Action: Warranty void; service refusal

⚖️ Key Common Characteristics​

These products typically include:

  • Signed user agreements
  • Warranty conditions
  • Licensing requirements
  • Safety compliance clauses
  • Remote monitoring or activation systems
  • Legal reporting obligations
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Scary
 
#129
#129
MontyPython said:
Someone's gonna need to explain this whole situation to me real slow and special... like I'm a 2nd grade, paste-eating, exceptional child. Because this whole situation makes exactly zero sense.

Hegseth: "You can't tell us what to do. You must allow us the ability to have autonomous weapons and mass surveillance if we want. Anthropic, you're fired. Now we have a beautiful new, big and better contract with OpenAI".

OpenAI: "Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement."
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There better be a real difference in terms, otherwise it looks like they killed their relationship with Anthropic (and deemed it a supply chain national security risk) just to swap in OpenAI which is full of Trump donors
 
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NashVol11 said:
There better be a real difference in terms, otherwise it looks like they killed their relationship with Anthropic (and deemed it a supply chain national security risk) just to swap in OpenAI which is full of Trump donors
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Agreed. Odds are Anthropic will sue the government for targeting it... and if the govt's deal with OpenAI is basically identical, guessing they got a pretty good shot at prevailing.
 
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AVs are a necessary 21st century defense system. Drones reduce the number of boots on the ground.

AVs receiving instructions from satellites are vulnerable to having the connection jammed.

AVs that are hard wired with a trailing optical cable have a limited range.

Therefore the most effective AV drones will be those that have the decision making code loaded onto their onboard computer systems. AI would be an important resource to update that onboard code. Also for those AV drones that are connected, AI would assist with the precision of the targeting.

Autonomous weapons will reduce collateral damage and troop casualties.
 
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davethevol said:
This stuff will be able to replace teachers in the classroom, it’s already being tested in warehouses to replace workers with robots, it will be able to perform surgeries…… there won’t be many limits to what it can do.
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Surgical robots in their current form are smoke and mirrors. They are a tool in the toolbox. They make average surgeons better. They don’t do as much for great surgeons. They actually slow the good surgeon down. It will be interesting to see them advance though.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Surgical robots in their current form are smoke and mirrors. They are a tool in the toolbox. They make average surgeons better. They don’t do as much for great surgeons. They actually slow the good surgeon down. It will be interesting to see them advance though.
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The future of AI and how quickly it is developing is spot on.

Today’s as bad as it’ll ever be.
 
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volfanhill said:
What other products are you purchasing where how you use them is dictated to you by the company selling them?
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Pretty much everything digital. internet, cell phones, cable, any subscriptions you have. even if you look at services as basic as farm equipment where the farmer doesn't have the right to repair the equipment themselves or use third party.
 
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So there was backlash from OpenAI’s rushed, opportunistic deal with the Pentagon. I look forward to Hedgseth getting his ass sued by Anthropic.

BBC:

OpenAI to change deal with US military after backlash​


But on Monday, Altman posted on X to say further changes were being made, including making sure its system would not be "intentionally used for domestic surveillance of U.S. persons and nationals".

As part of the new amendments, intelligence agencies such as the National Security Agency would also not be able to use OpenAI's system without a "follow-on modification" to the contract.

Altman added the company had made a mistake by rushing "to get this out on Friday".
 
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what I don't get, is did the company not know the Pentagon was going to use their AI model for surveillance? I would assume that would have been written in the contract. If surveillance was in the contract tough crap for the company, even though I am personally against it. they signed a contract for it.

now if surveillance wasn't a listed function, assuming there were listed/agreed functions, then the company is the right to pull the contract after finding out.

if there were no agreed upon functions before hand, then its a grey area, but I lean towards both sides need to honor the contract.

It sounds like it is the first option, and this is just virtue signalling BECAUSE the public found out.
 
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LouderVol said:
what I don't get, is did the company not know the Pentagon was going to use their AI model for surveillance? I would assume that would have been written in the contract. If surveillance was in the contract tough crap for the company, even though I am personally against it. they signed a contract for it.

now if surveillance wasn't a listed function, assuming there were listed/agreed functions, then the company is the right to pull the contract after finding out.

if there were no agreed upon functions before hand, then its a grey area, but I lean towards both sides need to honor the contract.

It sounds like it is the first option, and this is just virtue signalling BECAUSE the public found out.
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Ya it’ll be interesting what comes of it. I assume anthropic will sue
 
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