Duke suing Mensah

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RockiesTop22 said:
For violation of contract by entering the portal.

I think it’s good for the school to hold their own.
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What contract? The contract is apparently year by year, and it is not with the University. It is reportedly with the Durham Devil Club, Duke's NIL collective. How is Duke going to get enforce EBT of it?

Update: The judge has already denied all of Duke's motions in their initial filing. At this point, Mensaj seems free and clear to go to Miami.
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Moreso in the NBA, where guys are disgruntled with contracts and perform poorly or ride the bench with a big salary.

I'm not saying Duke isn't right but they may have to pay Mensah to be a meh version of himself. Is that a win?
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I agree with you about Mensah and think Duke will lose this case but if they should win, it may send a strong message to others.
Apparently Miami wants him.
 
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Raebo said:
I agree with you about Mensah and think Duke will lose this case but if they should win, it may send a strong message to others.
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I think it's arbitration so I'm betting there's a buyout that Miami/Mensah pays.

I'm also betting that agents get a copy of his NIL contract, like they've probably got copies of the B1G contract that kept Moore at UW, so they know what language to refuse to allow for the next player.

None of this is good, really, but I've watched enough pro ball to know you cannot force an athlete to excel if they want to leave your team.

Edit: I believe pro contracts these days are loaded with incentives and metrics for the players to meet to avoid "slacking" while I'm pretty sure college revenue sharing agreements aren't allowed to do this (though they may be now or soon.)
 
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Raebo said:
I agree with you about Mensah and think Duke will lose this case but if they should win, it may send a strong message to others.
Apparently Miami wants him.
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Everybody seems to be focusing on the wrong thing here-

There is no way legally (at least that I am aware of) that Duke can prevent him from transferring and playing for Miami if he so chooses.

The issue here comes from his NIL contract.

Basically the question (legally anyway) is whether an athlete can sign a 2 year contract with Coke and then change their mind and want to be a Pepsi man after a year

So basically if he wants to play for Miami for free-no problem. He wants to get paid by an NIL collective-problem.

The state of college football in 2026. Blech

Just go back to the days of you transfer then you get to sit a year and it cannot be within the conference. Will solve most of this nonsense and make players actually think about a bit more than $ signs when choosing a college.
 
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stolitonic said:
Everybody seems to be focusing on the wrong thing here-

There is no way legally (at least that I am aware of) that Duke can prevent him from transferring and playing for Miami if he so chooses.

The issue here comes from his NIL contract.

Basically the question (legally anyway) is whether an athlete can sign a 2 year contract with Coke and then change their mind and want to be a Pepsi man after a year

So basically if he wants to play for Miami for free-no problem. He wants to get paid by an NIL collective-problem.

The state of college football in 2026. Blech

Just go back to the days of you transfer then you get to sit a year and it cannot be within the conference. Will solve most of this nonsense and make players actually think about a bit more than $ signs when choosing a college.
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I wonder if he can sign a "deferred NIL contract" with Miami? They agree to pay him but not until 2027 for "NIL he'll do then but he'll play football in 2026." Obviously, pro teams use deferred payments to avoid cap issues and revenue pressures....... and Bobby Bonilla says hi.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I wonder if he can sign a "deferred NIL contract" with Miami? They agree to pay him but not until 2027 for "NIL he'll do then but he'll play football in 2026." Obviously, pro teams use deferred payments to avoid cap issues and revenue pressures....... and Bobby Bonilla says hi.
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That. I do not know.....

Usually the pro contracts just add on a number of years or change the payment structure in terms of due dates so it is advantageous for both.

How many more years does Mensah have? If next season is his last season-unquestioned-then I think that situation may run into some issues.

Now if he has two years of eligibility remaining then yeah-they could backload his second year with all the NIL money.
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
What contract? The contract is apparently year by year, and it is not with the University. It is reportedly with the Durham Devil Club, Duke's NIL collective. How is Duke going to get enforce EBT of it?

Update: The judge has already denied all of Duke's motions in their initial filing. At this point, Mensaj seems free and clear to go to Miami.
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Actually Duke was granted a temporary restraining order that doesn’t allow Mensah to enroll at a new school until the hearing on February 2nd.
 
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Boston Vol said:
Actually Duke was granted a temporary restraining order that doesn’t allow Mensah to enroll at a new school until the hearing on February 2nd.
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Duke is seeking that, but 24/7 says the TRO was denied.

Another issue that this brings up is that if the report that Duke is suing for him to not be able to play for another school due to a contract, that is specifically pay for play. That would seem to violate tge NCAA's direct "no pay for play" rule.

If Duke has such a contract, this would seem to open the door to football athletes as employees. Maybe Mensah and his lawyers have bigger fish to fry than just a couple of years playing for Miami..
 
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S.C. OrangeMan said:
Duke is seeking that, but 24/7 says the TRO was denied.

Another issue that this brings up is that if the report that Duke is suing for him to not be able to play for another school due to a contract, that is specifically pay for play. That would seem to violate tge NCAA's direct "no pay for play" rule.

If Duke has such a contract, this would seem to open the door to football athletes as employees. Maybe Mensah and his lawyers have bigger fish to fry than just a couple of years playing for Miami..
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