Double File Restarts Coming?

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DownNDirty

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An article on Jayski basically says NASCAR is seriously considering double file restarts. I think this in direct response to the ratings drop as well as the difficulty in selling out races this year. Maybe they really ARE getting the memo and going to try some different things.

There are other discussions on here about what else needs to be done but I think this could be interesting if they do the double file restarts. The guys one lap down all lining up side by side behind the leaders all racing one another as well. I'm on the fence but since they have the Lucky Dog this could be something I'd like to see given a shot.
 
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I'm only a casual fan of NASCAR so this might be completely stupid but . . . What if they restarted the same way they do now, but if just flip flopped the lines with the cars 1 lap down on the outside and the cars on the lead lap at the bottom with the preferred line going into the 1st turn?
 
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GAVol said:
I'm only a casual fan of NASCAR so this might be completely stupid but . . . What if they restarted the same way they do now, but if just flip flopped the lines with the cars 1 lap down on the outside and the cars on the lead lap at the bottom with the preferred line going into the 1st turn?
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The problem with this is the fast line is being able to exit the turn going out to the wall. The lapped cars would be in the preferred exit line which is more important to maintaining speed than entering the turn on the inside.
 
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rbroyles said:
The problem with this is the fast line is being able to exit the turn going out to the wall. The lapped cars would be in the preferred exit line which is more important to maintaining speed than entering the turn on the inside.
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That makes perfect sense.

OK . . . Then why not just make the first car on the inside line lag back next to the 5th place car rather than next to the leader? With the "lucky dog" in effect, they're not really racing the leader anyway as much as they are just trying to be the first car 1 lap down.
 
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I think ti would work. I would prefer to see it. It could take an extra lap or so under caution to get the fiels lined up. Doing it with 40 or so cars could be a little more difficult unless everyone pits and they get straight into formation. There are some tracks where being 2nd would suck though. he might fall back to 6th or 7th before he could fall in line on the bottom.
 
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Double-file restarts aren't the answer to making ratings go up. Once the field gets single-file, like it always does, the racing will still be the same. The car out front will take off it'll be mostly follow-the-leader throughout. If NASCAR thinks this will solve the ratings problem, they are really going down the wrong path. The problem lies in the car that's being driven in the restarts.
 
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Here is what to do...
Make double-file restarts the new rule and keep the free pass. Have the lead lap cars duke it out in the front and have the slower cars where they belong, in the back. The two fastest lapped cars can race for the free pass and if they wreck each other in doing so, no lead lap cars are caught up in the aftermath.
 
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this is a terrible rule.

what's the point of having better pit stops if the guy your team just beat to the line gets to start right next to you?
 
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Because fans dont watch the sport to see fast pit stops. They watch for exciting racing. Which NASCAR is sorely lacking.
 
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doozer said:
this is a terrible rule.

what's the point of having better pit stops if the guy your team just beat to the line gets to start right next to you?
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Have to disagree with you. Just look at Mark Martin in the 600. A tire got away in the pits, and he restarted in 34th. with a double row restart he would have been 17 rows back instead with no lapped cars taking away the fast line.

BTW, it will be a topic of discussion at the meetings to be held this week.
 
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rbroyles said:
Have to disagree with you. Just look at Mark Martin in the 600. A tire got away in the pits, and he restarted in 34th. with a double row restart he would have been 17 rows back instead with no lapped cars taking away the fast line.

BTW, it will be a topic of discussion at the meetings to be held this week.
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so why should he be rewarded for his team making a mistake, by getting to start further forward?

like it or not, the pits are part of the race track. therefore, you and your team should be rewarded as such for their effort preparing for the races and their efforts during the race.

pit road mistakes have cost drivers races and championships, just like mistakes on the track. they might as well just allow the teams to come in while the track is being cleaned to make adjustments and fuel. then when the tracks is clean, go back out and restart side by side. otherwise, this rule would be stupid.
 
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doozer said:
so why should he be rewarded for his team making a mistake, by getting to start further forward?

like it or not, the pits are part of the race track. therefore, you and your team should be rewarded as such for their effort preparing for the races and their efforts during the race.

pit road mistakes have cost drivers races and championships, just like mistakes on the track. they might as well just allow the teams to come in while the track is being cleaned to make adjustments and fuel. then when the tracks is clean, go back out and restart side by side. otherwise, this rule would be stupid.
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I have to say that was not the best scenario to make my point, you are correct about pit mistakes. Having said that, I still am in favor of the double file restart. The lapped cars should not have the advantage of moving up on restarts. Just using your logic, why should a car be rewarded for falling a lap down? They have the "lucky dog" rule now so it isn't required to move them up. The double file restart would add more excitement to the race, something that's needed.
 
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rbroyles said:
I have to say that was not the best scenario to make my point, you are correct about pit mistakes. Having said that, I still am in favor of the double file restart. The lapped cars should not have the advantage of moving up on restarts. Just using your logic, why should a car be rewarded for falling a lap down? They have the "lucky dog" rule now so it isn't required to move them up. The double file restart would add more excitement to the race, something that's needed.
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i wholeheartedly agree about the lap down cars starting next to the leaders. that's absurd too.
 
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I can see both sides. I as a fan think that double file restarts would be more exciting. No matter what they do everyone will not agree. I would like to hear what each driver has to say about it.
 
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**ORANGEBLOOD** said:
Like Dave Despain said "If the drivers are against it, its usually a good idea." Bring on the double file restarts.
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:eek:k: I would guess that if they were running in the top 5 or so they would be against it. Everyone from mid pack back would be for it. Just my guess. Either way I don't think the lap down cars should be up there in the way if they are going to have the lucky dog rule.
 
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The drivers are never going to agree to double file restarts because it makes their job tougher. So F 'em. Its going to make for better racing ON THE TRACK. I hope it happens this week.
 
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the COT was supposed to make for better racing on the track, and the drivers were against having to drive it.

that's worked out so well we're now talking about double file restarts to make better racing.
 
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