Dooley tried to lose to Kentucky?

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HeuperDrive said:
Dooley was awful but Chad Morris's tenure at Arkansas was easily the worst in SEC history.

Hate defending Dooley even this much but he won 4 SEC games. Morris went 0-14 in SEC play and got blown out by North Texas. Not trying to defend Dooley whatsoever, but I just couldn’t resist an opening to talk about how bad Chad Morris was.
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Idk, Mike Price at Bama may take that title😂
 
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Can’t wait for the negative campaign ads next year

“It’s 3 AM and your senator is called because Iran now has a nuclear bomb. Can you or your family trust a senator who went an entire recruiting cycle with zero o-line recruits and ended a 26 year winning streak against Kentucky to make the right choices?”

By far and away Curly Hallman’s time at LSU was the worst coaching job in the modern SEC era (divisions/ championship game) IMO.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
He was a better coach than Dooley sure, albeit not tremendously better but he was a lying POS
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This is not a defense of Butch Jones, this is how bad Dooley was.

Butch has five 9 win seasons in his career and got rehired at a pretty decent G5 school as a HC. He's fake as ****, don't get me wrong. But if you listen to people around the program, Dooley was a worse person and a much worse HC. He almost destroyed the program. He left the program in such bad shape Kirby Smart wouldn't interview and Charlie Strong backed out after talking with some coaching friends around the league.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Tennessee fans mostly hate Butch the most of our Big 3 losers. But for me it’s Dooley. By far. Butch put in effort. Dooley was an entitled loafer. He was lazy. I can respect failing with effort. Dooley failed with half ass effort then tried to quit.
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Both were downright awful coaches. Dooley decided recruiting wasn’t too important, so didn’t recruit heavily and in fact, didn’t sign any linemen one season - I think it was 2011. Dooley at least ran a competent offense, but forgot that you had to play defense. Was generally regarded as a giant d-bag off the field.

Butch was a smoke and mirrors whiner, used Hyundai salesman. Could recruit but didn’t know the first thing about getting them to actually play and develop talent. Horrid play calling that would have been so much worse if it hadn’t been for a QB named Dobbs. Had some of the best rosters (maybe not crazy deep, but look at the talent that made it to the next level), but couldn’t develop or coach to save his life.Spit in the face of the fans, threw his tantrums, and then held the University for ransom by pretending to be an “intern” at arguably our biggest rival. The cigar incident alone is proof positive that he was and still is the worst hire (Pruitt a very close second, Dooley right there with him) in the modern era of our University.

In summation, I will always hate Butch Jones with the fury of a thousand suns.
 
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Dooley went an entire cycle without signing a single O-line recruit. I honestly think we might still be feeling the last lingering effects today of the prolonged incompetence in the management of that position group by Dooley. He was terrible in ways that we still don’t fully comprehend as a fanbase.

Butch’s tenure was just so darn demoralizing because there were a few flashes of hope in there that were promptly pi$$ed away.

But our ADs have been the most incompetent losers of all until Danny White. Hamilton, Hart, Currie, and finally Fulmer. That was an epic run of garbage probably unrivaled in major college sports history.
 
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Chad F said:
Dooley went an entire cycle without signing a single O-line recruit. I honestly think we might still be feeling the last lingering effects today of the prolonged incompetence in the management of that position group by Dooley. He was terrible in ways that we still don’t fully comprehend as a fanbase.

Butch’s tenure was just so darn demoralizing because there were a few flashes of hope in there that were promptly pi$$ed away.

But our ADs have been the most incompetent losers of all until Danny White. Hamilton, Hart, Currie, and finally Fulmer. That was an epic run of garbage probably unrivaled in major college sports history.
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Hate to speak ill of the dead, but he started the downfall. The school had just fired a longtime coach, the brand was still worth something and he hired a young coach who always dreamed of going back to California without even securing a large buyout. Then when Kiffin leaves, instead of just naming an interim--he hires Dooley.
 
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LittleVol said:
Tough call.
Tennessee football would have been exciting but old coach wouldn't have been able to keep his hands to himself at that point in his life.
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Yep. But he would’ve won some games and kept the program on track, then left talent to the next guy (making that an easier hire).

But ultimately, the problem was administrative back then.
 
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Sugar bowl on the line and Butch gets blown out by Vandy...Then the following year the trash can crap...The year after that he was smoking cigars with Bama players after they blew out the team He recuited...Dooley was incompetent, Butch was a flat out idiot.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
I’ve been told by someone who covered Tennessee back then that Dooley tried to quit after that game and Hart talked him out of it. If true, tanking that game makes sense. It was inexcusable to lose that game.

And also if true, Hart should’ve let him quit. We had a ton of offensive talent returning and could have used it to entice a good coach. It was obvious after 2 years that DD wasn’t going to get it done.

Imagine if Tennessee had hired Hugh Freeze (that was the year Ole Miss hired him) that year instead of another year with Dooley followed by Butch.
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We could have had a sketchy guy who's alleged to have paddled female students, make them change clothing in his office, and monitored their skirt length...and those are the things known. I think with his admission to using a university-owned phone to contact an escort service and a "pattern of personal misconduct" at Ole Miss, the Briarcrest allegations gain credence.

Nah to that sort of moral schizophrenia in a P5 head coach.
 
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NCFisher said:
We could have had a sketchy guy who's alleged to have paddled female students, make them change clothing in his office, and monitored their skirt length...and those are the things known. I think with his admission to using a university-owned phone to contact an escort service and a "pattern of personal misconduct" at Ole Miss, the Briarcrest allegations gain credence.

Nah to that sort of moral schizophrenia in a P5 head coach.
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Yeah, you’re right. He’s a fit at Auburn.
 
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rocketskates said:
Between the Kentucky loss in 2011 and in 2012 not going for the win against Missouri from the 50 yard line with time remaining, as well as the Vandy meltdown; I find it believable that Dooley was completely checked out and the players knew it.
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That decision in the 2012 Mizzou game was when I finally realized (much later than I should have) that Dooley had just given up and was on his way out. With the way that game and season had gone, not going for the touchdown was equivalent to waving the white flag.
 
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DaddyChad said:
I’ll disagree here at least a little bit. Dooley put in effort. It just was on things that didn’t matter as far as winning ballgames. Dude was more worried about how the damn trashcans were emptied and how the Gatorade was distributed instead of important stuff
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Didn't he also call the campus cops on Eric Berry for parking in a reserved spot? I remember him telling a local sports reporter that he wanted all former Vol football players to call ahead before visiting the football offices. Who does that to the people who built the program??
 
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