Donnieball Taking Shape!

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The players are the prototype of a lot of winning team's make up out there now. If they can learn & play Donnieball the way he wants it done Tennessee will show us Basket Ball like we have never seen Vol teams play before. Exciting, full houses, and competing for the top prize.
 
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I am no whiz at basketball, but is this team as it stands right now is going to be a difficult challenge to match up against.

With the "system", "Athleticism" and other changes per se will this not be a better team?

I am making some assumptions but can see this team going 9-11 players deep a night. If we are conditioned as mentioned, this will be another factor. Kids have off nights but I can see when one has an off night that 2 or 3 will be in line to step up.

Every time CDT is questioned, about Guards, or team dynamics, the loss of players, coaching staff, he always has an answer. It is quite apparent, he knows what his plan is and is thinking about his next move or recruit beyond anybody's site.

In less than a month, he has done well and accomplished a lot. In doing so, he has changed the composure of the team, the depth, the staff, the system, and the overall dynamics. He has a plan to succeed, he has his philosophy, and his approach.

It has been a take no prisoners approach which appears to be working. In Addition, he has promoted and sold the university in the process very well.

He is the type of employee, you want to have working for you at any job.

Only comparison to Pearl I would offer is that Pearl could not have pulled this off this quickly. The rest of the comparisons should be reserved for the court of play next year.
 
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My 2 biggest concerns, what happens when we are pressed? Do we have anyone that can break the press and handle the ball over under pressure without turning it over?

Rebounding. Hopefully McKnight keeps his nose clean, stays out of foul trouble, and maybe adds 10-15 pounds by the start of the season. Outside of him Reese would be the next guy in line who's most physically ready to play the 5, that scares me a bit.
 
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Volman1970 said:
Just don't compare him to Bruce Pearl and he will be fine.I hope the Pearl talk die forever.
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Well, that will depend on 2 things. CDT's success at UT and / or how successful CBP is at Auburn. As long as CDT is not being compared to CCM this time next year, then we will be in good shape..IMO.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
My 2 biggest concerns, what happens when we are pressed? Do we have anyone that can break the press and handle the ball over under pressure without turning it over?

Rebounding. Hopefully McKnight keeps his nose clean, stays out of foul trouble, and maybe adds 10-15 pounds by the start of the season. Outside of him Reese would be the next guy in line who's most physically ready to play the 5, that scares me a bit.
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Handling the press? No problem. All our players now are long and can run the floor. You beat the press with passing not the dribble, and Tyndall will be drilling these guys every day in the full court game

Rebounding? Nothing like last year, but I'll bet this group blocks allot more shots.
 
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Volru said:
Handling the press? No problem. All our players now are long and can run the floor. You beat the press with passing not the dribble, and Tyndall will be drilling these guys every day in the full court game

Rebounding? Nothing like last year, but I'll bet this group blocks allot more shots.
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You will see a ton more steals. I hated our "no jumping in passing lanes" defense the last 3 years. Nothing gets a crowd more pumped up than a steal and slam at the other end.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
My 2 biggest concerns, what happens when we are pressed? Do we have anyone that can break the press and handle the ball over under pressure without turning it over?

Rebounding. Hopefully McKnight keeps his nose clean, stays out of foul trouble, and maybe adds 10-15 pounds by the start of the season. Outside of him Reese would be the next guy in line who's most physically ready to play the 5, that scares me a bit.
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Your concerns are legit as a fan, but as a Coach, Tyndall had a handle on it the moment he took the job if not before.

He gets paid to make this team function. And what may appear foggy to you is clear to him. The unknowns or doubts of fans are Coaches goldmines.

If CDT does have a plan on how he is going to get the ball up the court, rebound, conditioning, or system to play then he this month has been a waste of time, he is overpaid and we need to fire him. Some coaches have a purpose in everything they do, CDT is one. I believe he has a vision as to what will work and will not quit until he gets it right. He will make adjustments to get there and do what it takes for the team to succeed. He has already displayed this several times in the past month.

I expect to hear you, BTO, post at least 10-20 "Sweet Baby Jesus'" next year.
 
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Volru said:
Handling the press? No problem. All our players now are long and can run the floor. You beat the press with passing not the dribble, and Tyndall will be drilling these guys every day in the full court game

Rebounding? Nothing like last year, but I'll bet this group blocks allot more shots.
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That's simply not true about the press, you've gotta have someone that can dribble. Does passing help? Sure, but you've gotta have a good handling PG.

Darius Thompson is a helluva passer,
Maymon and Stokes both are as well, yet we still struggled with a press. Having a PG that knows what he's doing and how to attack it is a huge plus.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Your concerns are legit as a fan, but as a Coach, Tyndall had a handle on it the moment he took the job if not before.

He gets paid to make this team function. And what may appear foggy to you is clear to him. The unknowns or doubts of fans are Coaches goldmines.

If CDT does have a plan on how he is going to get the ball up the court, rebound, conditioning, or system to play then he this month has been a waste of time, he is overpaid and we need to fire him. Some coaches have a purpose in everything they do, CDT is one. I believe he has a vision as to what will work and will not quit until he gets it right. He will make adjustments to get there and do what it takes for the team to succeed. He has already displayed this several times in the past month.

I expect to hear you, BTO, post at least 10-20 "Sweet Baby Jesus'" next year.
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So if he doesn't win at least 20 games next year then either 1. His plan was a bad plan or 2. He didn't execute his plan?

Every coach in America has a plan, that doesn't always work though.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So if he doesn't win at least 20 games next year then either 1. His plan was a bad plan or 2. He didn't execute his plan?

Every coach in America has a plan, that doesn't always work though.
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Cuonzo didn't win 20 his first year...didn't change your love for him...pay it forward. :)
 
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butchna said:
Cuonzo didn't win 20 his first year...didn't change your love for him...pay it forward. :)
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Ahhh so if DT doesn't win at least 19 then you'll have the same level of "passion" toward him as you do CCM, since you're paying it forward and all.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So if he doesn't win at least 20 games next year then either 1. His plan was a bad plan or 2. He didn't execute his plan?

Every coach in America has a plan, that doesn't always work though.
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"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson....

I hope that we haven't created some unreal expectations of CDT in year one. Let's just see what happens and go from there.
 
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Toevol said:
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson....

I hope that we haven't created some unreal expectations of CDT in year one. Let's just see what happens and go from there.
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You're already seeing people saying he might duplicate Pearl's year 1, simply because of a new style lol.

Just a reminder, his first team finished 1st in the SEC and received a 2 seed in the NCAAT.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So if he doesn't win at least 20 games next year then either 1. His plan was a bad plan or 2. He didn't execute his plan?

Every coach in America has a plan, that doesn't always work though.
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I can't speculate on any of the games at this point, Wins or losses, nor would I. I find it funny that you seem to keep raising the bar from 15 wins, .500, to 20 wins.

What is your projection? Please don't bother it would just be a guess based on your opinion at this point and will probably change over time.

This is an immature baited argument and you should grow up sit back and relax. Or maybe you should apply for a job on the staff or at the AD. All the visions on this board of how it is going to go down based on the so called experts opinions is just dumb.

Individually we can evaluate and can see a detailed analysis of a signed player, but when it comes to team dynamics, how CDT will utilize these players in his system, Team chemistry and other factors it is a total unknown. None of us has a clue and some of us become a speculative bunch of jerks, stating the sky is fallen or we are going to be NC. Both extremes but that is what fans do, Coaches don't.

At this point, I would not call anything CDT has done a success or a failure, nor would I project his plans into a 1 or 2 a option scenario. However, I am very impressed at how he has handle this situation, to date as an incoming coach.

If a coach or leader does not have the ability to adjust on the fly, foresee that you might have to adjust, change accordingly as you go, and learn from every event (practices included) about your team's capabilities, assets and weaknesses then chances are you are not going to be successful.

If you cannot determine the best method to exploit another team's weaknesses you are probably not going to be successful. Likewise, if a coach doesn't make the necessary adjustments to prevent an opponent from exploiting his team's weakness then he is not doing his job. This is TBD with CDT and Staff.

Teams that have the philosophy that you learn about yourself as a team in wins than you do losses are more successful than others.
 
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I'm afraid you're going to see a team that commits 20+ turnovers a game and gets crushed on the boards. There is 0 PG experience (Chiles played off the ball at I.U.P.U.I.) and the 5 position is going to be held down by McKnight (who only averaged 20 minutes a game at F.G.C.U.) and...Reece? DT did a good job of filling the roster, but struck out on the two hardest spots to recruit. PG and C. 15 wins should be the break even point for this team. Under 15 wins and there should be some disappointment, over 15 wins and people should be happy. I see no way that this team gets to 20 unless the S.E.C. is brutally bad again next year.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
I'm afraid you're going to see a team that commits 20+ turnovers a game and gets crushed on the boards. There is 0 PG experience (Chiles played off the ball at I.U.P.U.I.) and the 5 position is going to be held down by McKnight (who only averaged 20 minutes a game at F.G.C.U.) and...Reece? DT did a good job of filling the roster, but struck out on the two hardest spots to recruit. PG and C. 15 wins should be the break even point for this team. Under 15 wins and there should be some disappointment, over 15 wins and people should be happy. I see no way that this team gets to 20 unless the S.E.C. is brutally bad again next year.
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I would not expect any other analysis from you, but to project a worst scenario which projects this team with street type pick-up game mentality void of coaching.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's simply not true about the press, you've gotta have someone that can dribble. Does passing help? Sure, but you've gotta have a good handling PG.

Darius Thompson is a helluva passer,
Maymon and Stokes both are as well, yet we still struggled with a press. Having a PG that knows what he's doing and how to attack it is a huge plus.
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Gonna disagree with you on the press thing. While having a PG that can really handle the ball well is great. Presses are broken by passing the ball not dribbling it.
 
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drewtigeralum said:
I'm afraid you're going to see a team that commits 20+ turnovers a game and gets crushed on the boards. There is 0 PG experience (Chiles played off the ball at I.U.P.U.I.) and the 5 position is going to be held down by McKnight (who only averaged 20 minutes a game at F.G.C.U.) and...Reece? DT did a good job of filling the roster, but struck out on the two hardest spots to recruit. PG and C. 15 wins should be the break even point for this team. Under 15 wins and there should be some disappointment, over 15 wins and people should be happy. I see no way that this team gets to 20 unless the S.E.C. is brutally bad again next year.
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It's Reese, not Reece.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
I would not expect you to think any other way, but the worst scenario which analyzes this as street type pick-up game mentality without any coaching.
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I don't think the turnovers are going to come from a "street type pick-up game mentality". I think they are probably going to come in the half court because there is no PG to handle the ball and there is no post player to throw the ball into. Then add in the fact that most of these guys have never played together, and you are going to get turnovers. As for the rebounding, if this team doesn't get pushed around under the backboards it will be a miracle. 6'8 220 is as big as it gets. DT did a good job putting the roster together, but a brand new roster of 5* players often times struggles. You're going to see the same struggles at U.T, but with less talent.
 
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Don't think turnovers or lack of rebounding come from it, but do think coaching fixes or reduces it. Right now it is just dumb to speculate. If CDT, can coach then we will know, if CDT's system isn't go to work, then it will be obvious.

But you like me have not a clue. Do you think he recruited these players to sit on the bench and watch the game pass them by, No.

If he is a good coach, he will adjust accordingly. My bet is he is and yes there is a learning curve that is going to happen for all of us, fans, staff, and players. Bottom line is don't over speculate based on the composition of the the team at this point because Coaching can change everything.
 
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