Does Loss to Arky St. Seal Fulmer's Fate?

#76
#76
orange+white=heaven said:
Being a fan, I'd like to believe UT is a job anyone would want to listen about. But there are very real drawbacks, not least a scarcity of local talent to draw upon.

If it were my choice to make though, I would be looking long and hard for the next name to become a nationally known coaching talent. Many of you already know my choice. The big dogs everyone here are touting don't have as much appeal to me for the next Tennessee coaching era...
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i think that's the single biggest drawback.

what exactly is a bearcat anyway?:)
 
#77
#77
jakez4ut said:
i think that's the single biggest drawback.

what exactly is a bearcat anyway?:)
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I think it is a close cousin to manbearpig

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#79
#79
tennaseevol said:
I certainly don't think CPF should be fired mid-season. On the other hand -

I posted this in another thread but in case you missed it, I will state it again.

"If you don't think that Hamilton is already making a list, checking it twice, and making phone calls to potential candidates about replacing CPF at the end of the season because things aren't and haven't been up to par, then you still believe in Santa Claus"
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UT IE 95 said:
I'm sure he has a list to replace Bruce Pearl as well. A list and hiring a replacement are two different animals.
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There, I changed it. Thanks for pointing out my error.

My point is that the heat is on...
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#80
#80
If he's making calls then we could be in trouble.

I agree on a list though.
 
#81
#81
utvolpj said:
If he's making calls then we could be in trouble.

I agree on a list though.
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What are the regulations regarding talking to potential candidates? I'm sure there would be issues with active college coaches, but not so much w/ outside the NCAA. Anyone know?
 
#82
#82
You always hear "...has been granted permission to talk to..." when coaching changes come up. Don't know the regs but I doubt many univ. would be happy with MH doing it 3 weeks into the season.
 
#83
#83
I'm not proposing him, but I sure there wouldn't be an issue with MH talking to a certain ex-Steeler coach.
 
#84
#84
seems to me, recruiting isn't a factor this year, realistically.... we're not in the top 30 yet. Not even on the lists of the listed recruits until you get to the 15th recruit. UF is listed on virtually all the top recruits listings.... If the powers that be want to make a decision based on recruiting, I would think a new coach could do just as good as a top 35 class at this point.
 
#85
#85
jakez4ut said:
honestly, i don't think UT could lure him to Knoxville from Norman, it would take at least Saban like money, but whew, wouldn't that be something to see Bob Stoops roaming the sidelines at Neyland??
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I would sell my child (smart, blonde-haired, blue-eyed, healthy two-year-old boy = $$$) into slavery and send the money to the VASF if they could lure Stoops to Knoxville. It'll never happen.
 
#86
#86
Vercingetorix said:
I would sell my child (smart, blonde-haired, blue-eyed, healthy two-year-old boy = $$$) into slavery and send the money to the VASF if they could lure Stoops to Knoxville. It'll never happen.
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well, i don't know that i'd go that far.......:eek:lol:

but i'd like to think if it were a possibility, that UT would make every solid effort to get him.
 
#87
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tennaseevol said:
What are the regulations regarding talking to potential candidates? I'm sure there would be issues with active college coaches, but not so much w/ outside the NCAA. Anyone know?
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These days, when you are feeling out interest out there, you are really not talking to a coach himself, but to his representation. They all have agents now, and speaking to them is in no way a violation of other schools policies.

Having said that, I'd be surprised if anything had gone that far...

I would also say that if that were to start happening, it would become common knwledge very quickly. And that would be a bad thing for the program.
 
#88
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orange+white=heaven said:
These days, when you are feeling out interest out there, you are really not talking to a coach himself, but to his representation. They all have agents now, and speaking to them is in no way a violation of other schools policies.

Having said that, I'd be surprised if anything had gone that far...

I would also say that if that were to start happening, it would become common knwledge very quickly. And that would be a bad thing for the program.
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#90
#90
1. Fulmer could have been/will be on thin ice. The general public will not know until/unless it's done. It's the UT way, and Fulmer's "legacy" commands enough high level respect to forego a coaching change controversy during any season.

2. If and when anything is done it will happen immediately the week following the last game of the season.

3. I'm not convinced he's on notice for the season, but I am convinced he's been notified that he will be evaluated as the season progresses.

4. I am convinced the university is privately evaluating possible options that may be available at years end, or who may be lured away. We won't go as bold a route as Bama. When and if we make a move, it wil be with some clout already secretly commited to coming here.

5. When it does happen, publically, Phil will resign. Privately, he'll get his buy out.
 
#91
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GVF said:
1. Fulmer could have been/will be on thin ice. The general public will not know until/unless it's done. It's the UT way, and Fulmer's "legacy" commands enough high level respect to forego a coaching change controversy during any season.

2. If and when anything is done it will happen immediately the week following the last game of the season.

3. I'm not convinced he's on notice for the season, but I am convinced he's been notified that he will be evaluated as the season progresses.

4. I am convinced the university is privately evaluating possible options that may be available at years end, or who may be lured away. We won't go as bold a route as Bama. When and if we make a move, it wil be with some clout already secretly commited to coming here.

5. When it does happen, publically, Phil will resign. Privately, he'll get his buy out.
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Well said. :salute:I now have nothing else to add to the coaching controversy. I think.
 
#92
#92
GVF said:
1. Fulmer could have been/will be on thin ice. The general public will not know until/unless it's done. It's the UT way, and Fulmer's "legacy" commands enough high level respect to forego a coaching change controversy during any season.

2. If and when anything is done it will happen immediately the week following the last game of the season.

3. I'm not convinced he's on notice for the season, but I am convinced he's been notified that he will be evaluated as the season progresses.

4. I am convinced the university is privately evaluating possible options that may be available at years end, or who may be lured away. We won't go as bold a route as Bama. When and if we make a move, it wil be with some clout already secretly commited to coming here.

5. When it does happen, publically, Phil will resign. Privately, he'll get his buy out.
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This covers it nicely. End of story.
 
#93
#93
Getting back to the original question of this thread...

I think that just the fact that we're actually worried about whether or not we can beat Arky State is grounds for firing Fulmer, let alone if it actually happens.
 
#94
#94
VolFan1978 said:
Getting back to the original question of this thread...

I think that just the fact that we're actually worried about whether or not we can beat Arky State is grounds for firing Fulmer, let alone if it actually happens.
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I think very few people on this board are worried about losing to ASU.
 
#95
#95
If UT doesn't blow out this little minor league school, Fulmer should voluntarily resign.
 
#97
#97
Martoony54 said:
seems to me, recruiting isn't a factor this year, realistically.... we're not in the top 30 yet. Not even on the lists of the listed recruits until you get to the 15th recruit. UF is listed on virtually all the top recruits listings.... If the powers that be want to make a decision based on recruiting, I would think a new coach could do just as good as a top 35 class at this point.
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it would make one think, MH needs to make a public annoucement at some time in the future, but early enough for a new coach to catch up on recruiting and as well as recruits to know who the future leader will be, it could cause top recruits to lean towards UT if a bigtime name replaced Fulmer, think about how many wanted to go to Florida because of Urban, or USC because of Pete Carroll.
 
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