Do you consider Canada an ally?

[JL24]

I do not.

I believe they are more an ally with China. Especially considering their election result.

Carney is a China supporter.

 

[NashVol11]

Trump picks a fight with Canada out of nowhere and of course MAGA immediately becomes convinced Canada is the enemy

 

[ButchPlz]

They have entire cities that have basically become Chinese, so is it shocking where they align?

I don't think I'd consider them "not an ally", but they certainly aren't a great friend, and they've been riding the benefits of being our neighbor for way too long.

 

[05_never_again]

They have entire cities that have basically become Chinese, so is it shocking where they align?

I don't think I'd consider them "not an ally", but they certainly aren't a great friend, and they've been riding the benefits of being our neighbor for way too long.

That can be said basically of any US ally. We bribed up an alliance after WWII so they'd help us resist the Soviets. The Soviets are gone and have been for 35 years, but the system of alliances remains.

There are no permanent friends or permanent enemies. Just permanent interests. We have the same interests, so that makes us allies.

 

[hog88]

They have entire cities that have basically become Chinese, so is it shocking where they align?

I don't think I'd consider them "not an ally", but they certainly aren't a great friend, and they've been riding the benefits of being our neighbor for way too long.

I consider them an ungrateful dependent more than an ally. Same for Europe.

 

[McDad]

Of course they are an ally. I think there is inequity in the relationship. But that inequity is more due to America's decisions than Canada's

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

The flyover provinces certainly are. The liberals in Ottawa are d-nozzles.

 

[utvolpj]

They have entire cities that have basically become Chinese, so is it shocking where they align?

I don't think I'd consider them "not an ally", but they certainly aren't a great friend, and they've been riding the benefits of being our neighbor for way too long.

The ccp is smart and as least acts friendly while taking over using a long term plan. The US could take some notes on their effectiveness

I think they benefit just like the us from one of the greatest moats on earth. If we weren't very much alike then our border would likely be more contested (90% live within a 2hr drive of the border)

I just don't see how all this "Canada is our enemy" comes from anything but parroted potus idiocy. Quit listening to that man

 

[Orangeburst]

The world is politically divided now, not boundry. I have more in common with right minded in Canada than my own fellow citizens.

Ask yourself, how many Dems hope Trump fails, this hurting our nation?

 

[05_never_again]

Of course they are an ally. I think there is inequity in the relationship. But that inequity is more due to America's decisions than Canada's

There's inequity in every single relationship with our allies by definition. We are the sole superpower.

When "ally" or "friend" is used in geopolitics it is kind of a loaded term. It isn't like an interpersonal relationship where a friend is someone you genuinely like, you think they're a good person, you really enjoy their company, etc.

In a geopolitical sense these are more business relationships that come together because you have common interests. You might have a good working relationship with someone but actually dislike them because of their personality or something.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Trump picks a fight with Canada out of nowhere and of course MAGA immediately becomes convinced Canada is the enemy

It's amazing aint it. It's almost like they're easily influenced.....say like sheep.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

The world is politically divided now, not boundry. I have more in common with right minded in Canada than my own fellow citizens.

Ask yourself, how many Dems hope Trump fails, this hurting our nation?

Trump is failing on his own, no one has to hope this happens. What has he done in his life to make anyone think he would be successful as a president or politician for that matter.

 

[Orangeburst]

Trump is failing on his own, no one has to hope this happens. What has he done in his life to make anyone think he would be successful as a president or politician for that matter.

semantic argument..how many Dems hope he succeeds?

 

[utvolpj]

semantic argument..how many Dems hope he succeeds?

Same thing the gop said with Obama. Rush even said it out loud and his audience clapped

I hope Trump drops the policies that are sure to cause failure but he won't and his followers will rode it all the way down

 

[n_huffhines]

I do not.

I believe they are more an ally with China. Especially considering their election result.

Carney is a China supporter.

Canada has fought side by side with us, has been our friend and neighbor without significant issue forever, and you think because we started a trade war with them, essentially forcing them to become stronger trading partners with other countries, like China, that they're not even our ally?

TDS^

 

[n_huffhines]

I consider them an ungrateful dependent more than an ally. Same for Europe.

Lol

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yes. Absolutely even. And until Trump started the idiotic annex Canada talk it never came into question. That doesn’t mean we don’t have our back and forth disagreements of course we do. But that’s akin to sibling rivalry. One picking on the other is our business. But anyone else pick on one they pick on both. Same for the UK.

 

[Orangeburst]

If Canada is looking for China as a partner, they are dumber than I thought.

 

[n_huffhines]

Of course they are an ally. I think there is inequity in the relationship. But that inequity is more due to America's decisions than Canada's

What is even the inequity? NORAD? Because we pay for 60% of it? How does that equal inequity? Is there other stuff I'm missing?

 

[Orangeburst]

How can Canada get a good trade deal with China, but not US?

 

[McDad]

What is even the inequity? NORAD? Because we pay for 60% of it? How does that equal inequity? Is there other stuff I'm missing?

Inequity in the spending for defense. They are sheltered under an umbrella we pay for.

 

[hog88]

Lol

I must be spot on.

 

[hog88]

Yes. Absolutely even. And until Trump started the idiotic annex Canada talk it never came into question. That doesn’t mean we don’t have our back and forth disagreements of course we do. But that’s akin to sibling rivalry. One picking on the other is our business. But anyone else pick on one they pick on both. Same for the UK.

There is no rivalry between us and Canada, at best they are the annoying little brother who want to hang on our coattails and relies on our protection when they get in trouble.

 

[05_never_again]

Lol

In terms of defense, he's right.

The problem is that it is a pickle of our own making. During the entirety of the Cold War, we told them that we'd pay for their defense because we didn't want them to themselves (more so European countries, but Canada got lumped in with it since they're in NATO).

 

[LouderVol]

How can Canada get a good trade deal with China, but not US?

they aren't run by a loudmouth who changes economic policy/tariffs every other day.

china thinks long term, something America has forgotten how to do.