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g8terh8ter_eric

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Speed Coach for our football team?? It just seems like our team is strong and healthy and Johnny Long as done a great job with that, but we are not that fast. I really think we do and maybe they can get our track team coach to come over and help out or something. Speed is something that you can't coach, but you can train to be faster. Just an observation.
 
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Godfatha said:
You can't coach speed.
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That's statement that doesn't pertain to what I am saying. Sure you can't coach it so to speak, but does that mean the other players can't train to become faster?? I really think that old saying should be, "You can't coach speed, but you can refine it."
 
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"speed" is relative in football. As a former track athlete I can tell you that "top end speed" and "acceleration" are totally different.

We want football players to have great acceleration. Top end speed means almost nothing in football.

As a football player, you want to be able to run 20 yards faster than anyone else. How many times/game are you going to run more than 20 yards at one time?

It's great to evaluate 40 yard dash times, and that's a decent indicator of what someone's 20 yard time would be -- but it's not everything.

When you see Holliday from LSU running the ball, he looks SO much faster than everyone else because he's got the great ability to accelerate. He gets to his top speed faster than anyone else on the field. That's partly why he's such a great 100m sprinter, but on the football field it makes him really stand out. Demps from Florida is the same way.

So, no -- we don't need a speed coach. I think we should stick to recruiting fast guys to begin with, and then coaching them to play football.
 
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Mullet said:
"speed" is relative in football. As a former track athlete I can tell you that "top end speed" and "acceleration" are totally different.

We want football players to have great acceleration. Top end speed means almost nothing in football.

As a football player, you want to be able to run 20 yards faster than anyone else. How many times/game are you going to run more than 20 yards at one time?

It's great to evaluate 40 yard dash times, and that's a decent indicator of what someone's 20 yard time would be -- but it's not everything.

When you see Holliday from LSU running the ball, he looks SO much faster than everyone else because he's got the great ability to accelerate. He gets to his top speed faster than anyone else on the field. That's partly why he's such a great 100m sprinter, but on the football field it makes him really stand out. Demps from Florida is the same way.

So, no -- we don't need a speed coach. I think we should stick to recruiting fast guys to begin with, and then coaching them to play football.
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thast' an interesting point, but the 2 guys you pointed out are accomplished track and field stars, running stellar times in the 100 meters.........but just bc/ a player runs fast doesn't mean they can play football, i think that's what you meant.........I think working with a speed coach, as well as a strength coach would be a great idea.........if they can knock a few tenths of a second off their 20 yard dash times, and their shuttle runs, it should translate onto the field, just as increased strength............however, just being fast isn't gonna cut it............
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Mullet said:
"speed" is relative in football. As a former track athlete I can tell you that "top end speed" and "acceleration" are totally different.

We want football players to have great acceleration. Top end speed means almost nothing in football.

As a football player, you want to be able to run 20 yards faster than anyone else. How many times/game are you going to run more than 20 yards at one time?

It's great to evaluate 40 yard dash times, and that's a decent indicator of what someone's 20 yard time would be -- but it's not everything.

When you see Holliday from LSU running the ball, he looks SO much faster than everyone else because he's got the great ability to accelerate. He gets to his top speed faster than anyone else on the field. That's partly why he's such a great 100m sprinter, but on the football field it makes him really stand out. Demps from Florida is the same way.

So, no -- we don't need a speed coach. I think we should stick to recruiting fast guys to begin with, and then coaching them to play football.
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good point
 
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When I saw the topic of this thread I thought we were going to have the special teams coach debate again.
 
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Speed is a big issue..none of our receivers except for Jones has any real speed...and at running back Hardesty is decent and so is Creer but Foster must be the offspring of snails as slow as he is.
 
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TENNFOLD1974 said:
Speed is a big issue..none of our receivers except for Jones has any real speed...and at running back Hardesty is decent and so is Creer but Foster must be the offspring of snails as slow as he is.
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denarius moore is fast, so is ahmad paige, but he's too busy riding the pine.......
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
That's statement that doesn't pertain to what I am saying. Sure you can't coach it so to speak, but does that mean the other players can't train to become faster?? I really think that old saying should be, "You can't coach speed, but you can refine it."
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I'm just messing with you man and throwing a cliche out there. :)

I totally get what you are saying. It used to be we used our track team for that sort of role.
 
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