Disturbing trend about our tackling

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Midfielder10

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We do not have one player outside maybe Roberty Ayers and Dan Williams who will wrap someone up and ride them to the ground. If you go back and watch, everyone is diving at ankles or throwing shoulders trying to land a huge hit. I remember one play where their big white fullback Southerland caught a screen and then Myers-White and Ellix Wilson proceeded to dive at his feet when they had the chance to wrap him up. Vinson did the same thing but he just happend to trip.

I remember this was what happend to Heffney, but now it looks like our entire D is averse to wrapping up the ball carrier.

Is this on Chavis, position coaches or what? This is DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL! :) They teach you that in Pop Warner!
 
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Midfielder10 said:
We do not have one player outside maybe Roberty Ayers and Dan Williams who will wrap someone up and ride them to the ground. If you go back and watch, everyone is diving at ankles or throwing shoulders trying to land a huge hit. I remember one play where their big white fullback Southerland caught a screen and then Myers-White and Ellix Wilson proceeded to dive at his feet when they had the chance to wrap him up. Vinson did the same thing but he just happend to trip.

I remember this was what happend to Heffney, but now it looks like our entire D is averse to wrapping up the ball carrier.

Is this on Chavis, position coaches or what? This is DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL! :) They teach you that in Pop Warner!
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Wrong. Berry is the best tackler on the team period. This was the first decent game Ayers has had all year.
 
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we havent been able to tackle since 2001, we look like a bunch of girlscouts out there.
 
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Playing back there with a mental decrepit in Demetrous Morley will do that. He's not good enough to play FS and SS at the same time.
 
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A trend implies that we are moving toward bad tackling. We've been there for many years.
 
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We've never been fundamentally sound under chavis. Its a read and react defense that runs itself out of the play more times than not. They try to make highlight films out of everyone and try to blow them up. If i had a nickel for every time i've watched a db or linebacker throw their shoulder into someone, instead of wrapping up i'd be a rich man.
 
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Cartervol said:
We've never been fundamentally sound under chavis. Its a read and react defense that runs itself out of the play more times than not. They try to make highlight films out of everyone and try to blow them up. If i had a nickel for every time i've watched a db or linebacker throw their shoulder into someone, instead of wrapping up i'd be a rich man.
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yeah, always trying to put the BIG HIT on them
 
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Eric Berry is the most fundamentally sound tackler we have on the team. He always wraps up with both arms and drives through his man.
 
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Ellix Wilson had 16 tackles with a bum shoulder. I'd say he deserves a bit more credit than not being mentioned at all.
 
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Voldaddy said:
Eric Berry is the most fundamentally sound tackler we have on the team. He always wraps up with both arms and drives through his man.
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You would think some of those other guys would try to follow suit. Do these guys just not care or what? That one is puzzling.
 
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NationofVols said:
Ellix Wilson had 16 tackles with a bum shoulder. I'd say he deserves a bit more credit than not being mentioned at all.
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He had some good tackles yesterday, but his overall play was lackluster. I give him credit for getting through the pain though. Those stats are inflated because Georgia had the ball a lot more than we did.
 
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NationofVols said:
Ellix Wilson had 16 tackles with a bum shoulder. I'd say he deserves a bit more credit than not being mentioned at all.
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Wilson had a great game, but he let Moreno run wide open on the 3rd down play at the end of the first half. Wilson followed Stafford when he rolled out instead of staying with his man. He still had a great game none the less.

BTW- where was Rico McCoy???
 
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Voldaddy said:
Wilson had a great game, but he let Moreno run wide open on the 3rd down play at the end of the first half. Wilson followed Stafford when he rolled out instead of staying with his man. He still had a great game none the less.

BTW- where was Rico McCoy???
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Rico McCoy is still lost and still not a disciplined tackler. He's a larger version of Demetrice Morley.
 
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i said it earlier this year, mccoy has not been productive at all. he gets lost in the mix too much.our tackling has been pretty good for the most part. the secondary all seem too want to 1up each other and make the big hit. ive really liked how rogan has played for the most part this year. this is another game we could have won. its lack of execution across the board. on the 11 minute drive in the fourth, georgia ran that same toss sweep over and over again, and everyone time we got outflanked and couldnt get the stop. our guys have got to figure out how to get off the field on third down.
 
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The first rule of tackling is "never, ever leave your feet to make a tackle".

A couple years ago, one of our DBs dove at the feet of a receiver in front of him who had the ball. The receiver literally took two steps back, jumped over the (sprawled-out) DB, and ran about 20 yards into the end zone.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
We do not have one player outside maybe Roberty Ayers and Dan Williams who will wrap someone up and ride them to the ground. If you go back and watch, everyone is diving at ankles or throwing shoulders trying to land a huge hit. I remember one play where their big white fullback Southerland caught a screen and then Myers-White and Ellix Wilson proceeded to dive at his feet when they had the chance to wrap him up. Vinson did the same thing but he just happend to trip.

I remember this was what happend to Heffney, but now it looks like our entire D is averse to wrapping up the ball carrier.

Is this on Chavis, position coaches or what? This is DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL! :) They teach you that in Pop Warner!
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Seriously, where have you been? Poor tackling due to a lack of wrapping up the ball carrier has been a huge problem at UT for many, many years. This is nothing new, and it is 100% on the coaches.
 
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Okay, let's not bury the coaching staff entirely here.

For one thing, tackling properly usually isn't taught at Pop Warner. Most youth league and middle school coaches have no experience beyond what they learned many years before and no desire to coach other than having a kid on the team (it sounds harsh, but it's true). Unfortunately, what was taught 20 years or more ago isn't something that should be passed on.

When a kid gets into high school, there are too many coaches that devote too little time to proper tackling technique. The best tackling teams have the most meticulous coaching staff, since they tend to be totally focused on the most minute details of the game. Unfortunately, most of those kids never go on to college for football; the majority of college players come from inner city schools that tend to lack good coaching. Since they were never taught to begin with (or, if they were, taught poorly) natural instinct takes over.

And by the time the kid gets to college, there's more emphasis on scheme and film study than there is on tackling. Since there's a limit on hours that can be spent on football during the week, most coaches would prefer to impart knowledge rather than technique. The result has been a decline overall in the fundamental soundness of the college game. The best tackling teams I've seen have been those with the simplest schemes (Ohio State, USC, Iowa during the early part of this decade) and the service academies (for whom "You will get hit and hit hard" is hardly a deterrent).

If you want to see tackling, get some old tapes of Willie Lanier. They called him "Huggy Bear", but there's a reason why he and Bobby Bell are two of a very small number of former linebackers that don't have severe neurological problems as a result of their careers.
 
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