Dismissed and S&C

#127
#127
For everyone defending mj. Did it occur to you that these kids were unable to stop smoking it? They choose smoking weed over a free education, playing in front of 100,000±, and all the other trappings that come with playing for the Vols. They chose weed and public disgrace.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
 
#129
#129
Damn nation, it would be nice to stay on topic once in a while.

Alcohol is evil.

Weed leads to meth.

You are an idiot if you disagree with me.
 
#131
#131
gainesvol82 said:
I don't drink. I also don't believe in driving impaired on marijuana. It slowers reaction times and thought processes. I really don't see that I would ever smoke after I have children. I don't want to be a bad influence on my kids and I do consider that a bad influence despite not being morally against pot. It would be extremely hypocritical for me to try and influence my children not to do something that I was continuing to partake in.
Click to expand...

Hmmm...
 
#133
#133
As a friend and former HS teammate of EJAW I'd like to step in and dismiss some of these allegations of him being a horrible kid. He's a good person if you get to know him and if he was really dismissed for smoking marijuana then he made a mistake. Personally I dont care what people do as long as they dont harm anyone else while doing it. I never been a fan of alcohol but personally I use marijuana on occasions.

Does that make me a bad person too? I've never been to jail, never assaulted anyone, hell I dont even have a speeding ticket, im in college too. Aside from that marijuana is a norm for certain people in certain areas, sadly enough its easy to become a product of your environment especially growing up here in the triad of NC which consists our larger cities such as Winston-Salem, Greensboro, High Point.

It's sad that a coach wouldn't like to help students get over their problems...all this money supplied for strength & conditioning coaches but there is no money to enroll users into a rehabilitation program? IMO that should have been an option for a first time offense.

And for those who think marijuana decreases your physical athletic ability --->:rolleyes:

Ricky Williams openly admitted he was a marijuana user and during the 2000-2003 seasons he was arguably the best back in the league. Im pretty sure he was smoking at Texas too, still a Heisman winner and a good person(just a weirdo). There are plenty of crimes to commit that are worse than smoking. Maybe just maybe CLK was venting, he does have a loser mentality from his Oakland days...as a coach he should know the importance of intervening on someones life, these kids are straight out of high school not the grown men of the NFL, harsh punishment is not always the best option.

For those who support EJAW im pretty sure he'd thank you guys for the support even though he saddened he cannot help his program excel.

For those who dont support him and dismiss him as a immoral individual, he will easily get past the criticism of the ignorant. Considering he was the #1 Recruit in NC, he will be earning an education and playing football for somebody, somewhere. I hope this ordeal at Knoxville will help him become a stronger person mentally and help him get his life on the right path.
 
#134
#134
TvilleAlum said:
As a friend and former HS teammate of EJAW I'd like to step in and dismiss some of these allegations of him being a horrible kid. He's a good person if you get to know him and if he was really dismissed for smoking marijuana then he made a mistake. Personally I dont care what people do as long as they dont harm anyone else while doing it. I never been a fan of alcohol but personally I use marijuana on occasions.

Does that make me a bad person too? I've never been to jail, never assaulted anyone, hell I dont even have a speeding ticket, im in college too. Aside from that marijuana is a norm for certain people in certain areas, sadly enough its easy to become a product of your environment especially growing up here in the triad of NC which consists our larger cities such as Winston-Salem, Greensboro, High Point.

It's sad that a coach wouldn't like to help students get over their problems...all this money supplied for strength & conditioning coaches but there is no money to enroll users into a rehabilitation program? IMO that should have been an option for a first time offense.

And for those who think marijuana decreases your physical athletic ability --->:rolleyes:

Ricky Williams openly admitted he was a marijuana user and during the 2000-2003 seasons he was arguably the best back in the league. Im pretty sure he was smoking at Texas too, still a Heisman winner and a good person(just a weirdo). There are plenty of crimes to commit that are worse than smoking. Maybe just maybe CLK was venting, he does have a loser mentality from his Oakland days...as a coach he should know the importance of intervening on someones life, these kids are straight out of high school not the grown men of the NFL, harsh punishment is not always the best option.

For those who support EJAW im pretty sure he'd thank you guys for the support even though he saddened he cannot help his program excel.

For those who dont support him and dismiss him as a immoral individual, he will easily get past the criticism of the ignorant. Considering he was the #1 Recruit in NC, he will be earning an education and playing football for somebody, somewhere. I hope this ordeal at Knoxville will help him become a stronger person mentally and help him get his life on the right path.
Click to expand...

Weed doesn't make you a bad person. The fact of the matter is he decided to break the rules and he got caught, period. Doesn't make him a bad person, makes him a bad decision maker. That will get better with age.
 
#135
#135
TvilleAlum said:
As a friend and former HS teammate of EJAW I'd like to step in and dismiss some of these allegations of him being a horrible kid.
Click to expand...

Tville, I appreciate your decision to make a statement about your friend. I'm sure very few people here know him personally. So our opinions of him really don't matter. The fact that his choices determined his outcome with the team is his alone to deal with. I wish him the best, as I do every collegiate athlete.
 
#136
#136
Volbuddy22 said:
Now that is some serious double talk. Are you a psych major? Taking both sides & not wanting to seem like the bad guy for calling out the pot head for what he is, is weak. Pot is wrong & illegal. I'll say it & don't mind.
Click to expand...

I personally don't smoke weed, however and this is what I believe he was trying to get across, believe it should be legalized and is no worse than alcohol or cigarettes. However, because it is illegal they shouldn't be apart of the program
 
#137
#137
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Weed doesn't make you a bad person. The fact of the matter is he decided to break the rules and he got caught, period. Doesn't make him a bad person, makes him a bad decision maker. That will get better with age.
Click to expand...

That's a good perspective, imo, Eric.

The part about decision-making for D-1 athletes with League-potential is that the consequences are extraordinary. It's just not worth the gamble.
 
#138
#138
In a sense I feel bad for these guys because of my own college experience. I realize these guys are getting a free ride and should be held to a higher standard than most, but part of me feels like they should get every opportunity to realize the college experience, and for me that included under age drinking and possibly smoking a little weed. By no means am i saying that what I did was appropriate, but it is what it is. Now having said that, the bottom line has to start and end with the man in charge (CLK) and if the players don't want to abide by those rules, then they have to reap what they sew. (spelling -5?) Is drinking under age any worse than smoking pot? It's not up to me, they are both illegal. But for some reason society looks at one being worse than the other. Not saying it is right, it is just reality.
 
#139
#139
I guess I'm showing my ignorance here but, I honestly never realized how rampant the use of marijuana really is among athletes. When I was in school, the people who used marijuana were the "burnouts" and the "head-bangers." The athletes drank but none of them that I knew were into weed.
 
#140
#140
vol445 said:
I personally don't smoke weed, however and this is what I believe he was trying to get across, believe it should be legalized and is no worse than alcohol or cigarettes. However, because it is illegal they shouldn't be apart of the program
Click to expand...

Ah, so instead of expecting the athlete to respect the rules of the university and the legal system, The university and the legal system should be changed to accomodate the poor decision making and blatant disrespect that the athlete shows. Is that it?
 
#141
#141
The entire illegal concept does make the most sense but you have to admit alternatives could have been used to handle this issue.

The "its just weed" concept makes sense too, honestly I see marijuana laws nearly depleted within the next 10 years. This may be a resource that we may need in order to help our lifestyles.

Just food for thought, it's sad that this had to happen hopefully EJ and the UT program will improve for the better from this situation.


And this is still all just "rumor" about EJ, at least thats my state of mind currently
 
Last edited:
#143
#143
People familiar to North Carolina told me we knew we were getting a "thug"/ attitude problem when we signed EJ last year.
 
#144
#144
Where did the whole marijuana thing originate from? Word of mouth? This is what our local newspaper had...


Thomasville native E.J. Abrams-Ward apparently is looking to transfer after being dismissed from the University of Tennessee's football team.

A school spokesman said on Thursday that Abrams-Ward, who redshirted as a freshman last season, was off the team because of a violation of team rules. Sophomore offensive tackle Ramone Johnson also was dismissed Thursday for the same reason.

Abrams-Ward, 18, was a heavily recruited athlete at Thomasville High who signed a football scholarship with Tennessee over North Carolina last February. The 6-foot-4, 210-pounder was listed on the Volunteers' roster as a wide receiver, but he also played quarterback on the scout team.

Tennessee finished 5-7 overall last season and long-time head coach Phillip Fulmer was replaced by Lane Kiffin, who has brought in virtually a completely new staff of assistants.

Thomasville High football coach Allen Brown confirmed Abrams-Ward's dismissal but could not provide details.

"All I know is that it has happened," Brown said. "I don't know why it happened."

Abrams-Ward reportedly had been struggling academically and for disciplinary reasons before the coaching change. He did not try to make Tennessee's basketball team as a walk-on, something he was considering doing before leaving for college. Brown believes Abrams-Ward's college football career is not over.

"I'd say he would want another chance," Brown said. "It's just too early to predict where he will end up. I imagine he'll have to go through the process of being released by the school (before transferring).

"We'll help him any way we can. He's a good kid."

Efforts to reach Abrams-Ward via e-mail were unsuccessful.

During the 2007 high school football season, Abrams-Ward was listed as the No. 1 overall prospect in North Carolina by Rivals.com and PrepStars. He played multiple positions over his career, including quarterback, linebacker, defensive end and running back.

Abrams-Ward also starred in basketball and baseball at Thomasville High. On the hardwood, he helped guide the Bulldogs to state championships during his freshman and junior seasons, while Abrams-Ward's accomplishments on the baseball diamond were enough to spark talk of him being drafted by a major league team. For his all-around athleticism, Abrams-Ward was named the N.C. High School Athletic Association Male Athlete of the Year.


No weed there...
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.
Advertisement



Back
Top