Discipline and accountability

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FLSTF-VOL

FLSTF-VOL

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Thats what most fans said they wanted. On this very forum I read things like, "This team lacks discipline", "This team has no accountability". You all loved the fact that Kiffin was gonna bring back the discipline and hold the players accountable for their actions.

Yet you all applaud our Head Coach for going in front of our boosters and the media and claiming that one of the most respected coaches in college football committed a recruiting violation and cheated, knowing full well that it was false. Ethics 101. Please some one explain to me in a rational way, why and how that can be acceptable regardless of whether it was supposed to be tongue and cheek?

We want to hold our student athletes to a higher standard but are willing to allow our Head Coach to do the very thing that we wanted stopped. He is supposed to set the example, not be the example.

General Neyland is rolling over in his grave right now. He didn't do it that way, Coach Dickey didn't do it that way, Coach Battle didn't do it that way, Coach Majors didn't do it that way and neither did Coach Fulmer.

This University has always prided itself on the fact that we did things with integrity and respect. Its part of our tradition.

I'm not suggesting that we throw Coach Kiffin under the bus but we sure as hell shouldn't be glorifying what he did.
 
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I didn't get it, but I read some of your old posts. You're not over Coach Fulmer being gone. That's explains a lot.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Thats what most fans said they wanted. On this very forum I read things like, "This team lacks discipline", "This team has no accountability". You all loved the fact that Kiffin was gonna bring back the discipline and hold the players accountable for their actions.

Yet you all applaud our Head Coach for going in front of our boosters and the media and claiming that one of the most respected coaches in college football committed a recruiting violation and cheated, knowing full well that it was false. Ethics 101. Please some one explain to me in a rational way, why and how that can be acceptable regardless of whether it was supposed to be tongue and cheek?

We want to hold our student athletes to a higher standard but are willing to allow our Head Coach to do the very thing that we wanted stopped. He is supposed to set the example, not be the example.

General Neyland is rolling over in his grave right now. He didn't do it that way, Coach Dickey didn't do it that way, Coach Battle didn't do it that way, Coach Majors didn't do it that way and neither did Coach Fulmer.

This University has always prided itself on the fact that we did things with integrity and respect. Its part of our tradition.

I'm not suggesting that we throw Coach Kiffin under the bus but we sure as hell shouldn't be glorifying what he did.
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The only rational thing I can say is.....GO BIG ORANGE:rock:
 
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Integrity and respect?? in the Fulmer years?? That's laughabl.....e.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
General Neyland is rolling over in his grave right now. He didn't do it that way, Coach Dickey didn't do it that way, Coach Battle didn't do it that way, Coach Majors didn't do it that way and neither did Coach Fulmer.
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Give me a damn break. Like a General would throw a fit over some words Lane said at a Vol booster meeting. The only thing he'd be upset about is losing to Vanderbilt, allowing Florida and Alabama to take over the conference, and allowing crap like South Carolina to regularly give the Vols all they can handle and more.

This is football. This isn't competitive cheerleading. There's no crying.
 
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kptvol said:
Give me a damn break. LIke a General would throw a fit over some words Lane said at a Vol booster meeting. The only thing he'd be upset about is losing to Vanderbilt, allowing Florida and Alabama to take over the conference, and allowing crap like South Carolina to regularly give the Vols all they can handle and more.
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I agree, this is not a conference for old ladies.
 
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vollygirl said:
I didn't get it, but I read some of your old posts. You're not over Coach Fulmer being gone. That's explains a lot.
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Has nothing to do with Fulmer. Fulmer wasn't on that stage.

It was time for Fulmer to go. I've said that several times.
 
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I don't have a big problem with a player saying something about another team. I do have a problem with a player getting arrested for driving 80 in a 30, intoxicated, and having a bag of weed on him.

I also want to see less mindless penalties, holding, false start, interference. All related to discipline.

Our coach public saying something, true or false about another coach, has nothing to do with anything I listed above.
 
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Neyland, Dickey, Battle, and Majors didn't have their booster speeches streamed on YouTube within an hour.

The content of what Kiffin said isn't really important. What's important is the attitude. Because treating your bitter rivals with respect gets your ass kicked.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
So what you don't have an answer so you want to make this about Fulmer?
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How could their be an answer to your question....You said you dont think we should throw him under the bus, but you are throwing him under the bus. And the answer is, their is no answer! Did i get it right? :dunno:
 
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Fulmerite trash talking about "discipline and accountability" is akin to Bill Clinton giving a lecture on "fidelity and forthrightness." Do everyone a favor and just wait for the marble mouthed, charisma free dolt you and the rest of the orange overall wearing crowd love gets a job at UTEP or whatever college football bottom feeder he and the rest of the Skoal Patrol land at. Then, you'll have a fan base where you're welcome.
 
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When Bruce Pearl said, "We are going to kick Florida's ass", he should have said, "We are going to do our best to have great game full of good sportsmanship and respect".
 
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kptvol said:
Give me a damn break. Like a General would throw a fit over some words Lane said at a Vol booster meeting. The only thing he'd be upset about is losing to Vanderbilt, allowing Florida and Alabama to take over the conference, and allowing crap like South Carolina to regularly give the Vols all they can handle and more.

This is football. This isn't competitive cheerleading. There's no crying.
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I can tell you exactly what a General would say and since you live in Memphis I can surely do it in person. I can guarantee you it won't be anything like cheer-leading and afterwards I'll buy you a cold beer.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
Thats what most fans said they wanted. On this very forum I read things like, "This team lacks discipline", "This team has no accountability". You all loved the fact that Kiffin was gonna bring back the discipline and hold the players accountable for their actions.

Yet you all applaud our Head Coach for going in front of our boosters and the media and claiming that one of the most respected coaches in college football committed a recruiting violation and cheated, knowing full well that it was false. Ethics 101. Please some one explain to me in a rational way, why and how that can be acceptable regardless of whether it was supposed to be tongue and cheek?

We want to hold our student athletes to a higher standard but are willing to allow our Head Coach to do the very thing that we wanted stopped. He is supposed to set the example, not be the example.

General Neyland is rolling over in his grave right now. He didn't do it that way, Coach Dickey didn't do it that way, Coach Battle didn't do it that way, Coach Majors didn't do it that way and neither did Coach Fulmer.

This University has always prided itself on the fact that we did things with integrity and respect. Its part of our tradition.

I'm not suggesting that we throw Coach Kiffin under the bus but we sure as hell shouldn't be glorifying what he did.
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I'm sure if CUM shows kiffin some he respect kiffin would act in kind. dont start calling recruits in the middle of a visit and think that you will get away with it treat me the way you want to be treated. Meyer has long been known to skirt the rules. he just doesnt like it when someone fights back
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
I can tell you exactly what a General would say and since you live in Memphis I can surely do it in person. I can guarantee you it won't be anything like cheer-leading and afterwards I'll buy you a cold beer.
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Great point.
 
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kptvol said:
When Bruce Pearl said, "We are going to kick Florida's ass", he should have said, "We are going to do our best to have great game full of good sportsmanship and respect".
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Actually, the Fulmerites would have preferred he go bow down before Billy Donovan and ask forgiveness for having the audacity to try and beat the Mighty Gators.
 
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FLSTF-VOL said:
I can tell you exactly what a General would say and since you live in Memphis I can surely do it in person. I can guarantee you it won't be anything like cheer-leading and afterwards I'll buy you a cold beer.
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What a bully! :cray:
 
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