Difficult to fire Fulmer

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tabrams

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Well, I think alot of people here on this board, including myself might have missed something in all the "get rid of fulmer" comments..........

Obviously, we're all pretty upset (to put it mildly) watching our team underacheive week in and week out, and slowly see our once all-mighty program sink into the depths of utter despair........

What if the team has a BAD record, as many of us predict, but the amazing recruiter Fulmer is able to pull off yet another TOP-5 recruiting class, loading the team up for YEARS to come...........

It may be very difficult to cut Fulmer loose under those cirumstances..........With a big contract in place, and another TOP-5 recruiting class on the way, my guess is that some offensive assistants will be sent packing, including Clawson, and Fulmer gets to stay..........

what do u guys think???
 
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Fulmer will not sign a top 5 class. Its looking more like a 10-15 ranked class with a possibility of slipping into the top 10 with some BIG gets.
 
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chavisut said:
Fulmer will not sign a top 5 class. Its looking more like a 10-15 ranked class with a possibility of slipping into the top 10 with some BIG gets.
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I think it would be possible to be ranked top 5, if they sign alot of guys, upwards of 30, like they did 2 years ago.....when they signed 32
 
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chavisut said:
It won't happen.
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doens't matter, ranked #4, ranked #8, all the same.........but the point is that Fulmer's going to sign a great class, with a huge contract to back him up, I think Clawson and one or 2 other assistants will be the fall guy...........and Fulmer once again get off the hook..
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Good point. Very good point. But idk if he'll get a top-5 class. It all depends on the boosters if they want Fulmer here or not.
 
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zjcvols said:
Good point. Very good point. But idk if he'll get a top-5 class. It all depends on the boosters if they want Fulmer here or not.
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I was really trying to ask you guys a question, and make a point.......the specifics aren't that important in a way........if Fulmer gets a top class, then I think he'll be able to pass the buck..........I mean, does anyone really think that Clawson is a great coordinator???
That's an easy out, and Fulmer gets to keep getting the mega-bucks...........:swoon3:
 
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tabrams said:
What if the team has a BAD record, as many of us predict, but the amazing recruiter Fulmer is able to pull off yet another TOP-5 recruiting class, loading the team up for YEARS to come..........
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If great recruiting classes really did "load us up for years to come," then we would have won a lot more than two SEC championships in the last year.

There's no doubt that Fulmer and his staff can bring talent to Knoxville. Our recruiting classes have been as good as almost anybody's; we send as many players to the NFL as almost anybody. The problem is that our coaches don't seem to be able to do much with them in between.
 
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I don't think that will have a major impact on the situation. At least I hope not.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If great recruiting classes really did "load us up for years to come," then we would have won a lot more than two SEC championships in the last year.

There's no doubt that Fulmer and his staff can bring talent to Knoxville. Our recruiting classes have been as good as almost anybody's; we send as many players to the NFL as almost anybody. The problem is that our coaches don't seem to be able to do much with them in between.
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well, they do "load us up for years to come"..........the only problem is exactly what you just said, they don't know what to do with them........I couldn't agree more.......I guess what we could hope then, is taht Fulmer LoADS the team up, and gets FIRED, haha.....and a Bruce Pearl type of coach comes in, and DOMINATES, much the way Fulmer stole all of Majors players, after he loaded it up, and got canned........
 
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chavisut said:
I don't think we need a Bruce Pearl type of coach to come in.
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Bruce Pearl saved TN basketball from the brink of oblivion..........we could use a positive coach who does MORE with LESS, instead of the reverse........I'm just thinking that Fulmer will be able to blame the assistants, much cheaper to BLAME and FIRE them..........I would say the O-line coach, and Clawson get canned after the year.........if anybody get fired.....
 
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When I say Bruce Pearl type coach, I don't mean a clone of him... I think of someone who just basically recharges the fanbase and brings in new excitement. The new coach (forgive the expression) doesn't have to sell the program like Bruce had to. He just has to be a good coach and win, everything else will fall into place.
 
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chavisut said:
Our football program doesn't need a PR guy.
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who said we needed a PR guy?? Why r u trying to twist everything into soemthing negative???
WE need someone to come in, with a positive attitude, and get the players to play really hard, not like lifeless zombies, who look like they're still at the orange and white game............

But that wasn't teh point ot this thread........it was a question............If Fulmer land a top recruiting class, with a massive contract in hand, what will happen if we go 5-7????????

I think Clawson gets the ax..........waht do u thinkk????
 
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chavisut said:
I think any new coach would bring excitement to our fan base.
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Yep. At first anyway, but he better do soemthing with a year or two. He doesn't have to win a NC or even the SEC, but there should be visible improvement.
 
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tabrams said:
who said we needed a PR guy?? Why r u trying to twist everything into soemthing negative???
WE need someone to come in, with a positive attitude, and get the players to play really hard, not like lifeless zombies, who look like they're still at the orange and white game............

But that wasn't teh point ot this thread........it was a question............If Fulmer land a top recruiting class, with a massive contract in hand, what will happen if we go 5-7????????

I think Clawson gets the ax..........waht do u thinkk????
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I don't think our recruiting class will have anything to do with whether or not Fulmer keeps his job. It most likely won't be a top 10 class.

As far as the Pearl comment, you mentioned him and I disagreed. I'm not sure how I'm being negative.
 
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chavisut said:
I don't think our recruiting class will have anything to do with whether or not Fulmer keeps his job. It most likely won't be a top 10 class.

As far as the Pearl comment, you mentioned him and I disagreed.
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As far as recruiting, I believe we will be top 5, or close to it..........as far as Pearl, you thought I was talking about getting a great promoter as coach.......thats' not necessary........I meant to get a coach that gets the MOST out of his players, like BRUCE PEARL..........like JOE PATERNO.........like NICK SABAN, etc.........coaches that are TOUGH..........

But once again, my QUESTION is the same..........who will be the fall guy if things don't go well?? my guess in CLAWSON.........what do u think?
 
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We will not be close to a top 5 class. It isn't happening.

When it comes to getting the most out of your players, I think everybody wants a coach like that.
 
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chavisut said:
I don't think our recruiting class will have anything to do with whether or not Fulmer keeps his job. It most likely won't be a top 10 class.

As far as the Pearl comment, you mentioned him and I disagreed. I'm not sure how I'm being negative.
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I'll give u an example of what i'm saying........Charlie Weiss last years wins like 2 or 3 games, but gets a top 2 or 3 recruting class, has a MASSIVE contract, and gets to stay..........understand my point?????
 
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QUOTE=chavisut;1699093]We will not be close to a top 5 class. It isn't happening.

When it comes to getting the most out of your players, I think everybody wants a coach like that.[/QUOTE]



trying to get you to see the bigger picture is very painful............:banghead2:
 
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tabrams said:
I'll give u an example of what i'm saying........Charlie Weiss last years wins like 2 or 3 games, but gets a top 2 or 3 recruting class, has a MASSIVE contract, and gets to stay..........understand my point?????
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Didn't Weiss sign that contract the year before? Also, Weiss was a new coach there and all of Notre Dame was worshiping him at the time. The same can not be said for Fulmer. Furthermore, a top 5 class is not happening like I've already said.
 
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