Despite our best efforts.... somehow we're still ranked

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howie said:
Still 5-0 until injuries. Your post was how the record was the same. Without injuries we win A&M, SC and Vandy. AppSt a good team as was Ohio. Yes we were flat but found a way to win. Injuries took that ability away.
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App state and Ohio are not good teams, they are average. Especially when mentioning them in the same breath as Tennessee. App state played 2 semi good teams and one above average team and lost them all. A semi good Miami took them to the woodshed. An above average Troy beat them and a semi good UT needed a miracle to beat them.

Ohio? A team that lost to Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan and Texas State. Oh and could only manage 9 points against powerhouse Akron? Man arent they a great team. Just stop it. Stop thinking that either of those teams should have been within 4 TDs of us.

I used to think without the injuries we could have beaten SC, Vandy and TAMU but honestly, I really dont know.
 
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howie said:
Still 5-0 until injuries. Your post was how the record was the same. Without injuries we win A&M, SC and Vandy. AppSt a good team as was Ohio. Yes we were flat but found a way to win. Injuries took that ability away.
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Injuries weren't why we lost to SCe or Vandy. Lack of focus and horrible play by our offense cost us the SCe game and Debord's inability to make in game adjustments cost us the Vandy game. Mason made in game adjustments to stop our offense and Debord didn't counter it with his own adjustments. Vandy should never dominate a 2nd half or 4th quarter against us. Then throw in 2 plays that completely changed momentum..Hayden dropping an easy pick 6 and Dobb's fumble at Midfield with us up and the chance to add to our lead completely changed momentum. And then throw in Butch's 4th quarter coaching that was one for the ages. Not sure there has been a more poorly coached 4th quarter under CBJ. Injuries didn't cost us the A'M game either it was the 7 turnovers and half of them inside A'M's 20. Without those turnovers we win by 17+. Can think of any game that injuries were the reason we lost. We have played better QB's than Vandy's and not gotten torched like he did to our secondary. That was just poor play and execution from the whole defense but especially our secondary. Cam looked like someone who had never played a down of football had stolen his jersey and played the game for him. By far the worst game he has played in a Vol jersey. Buchanan has no business being on the field and Foreman played just as poorly at Cam and both looked as uninspired as any player could look.Not sure where there heads were Sat night but it wasn't focused on Vandy.
 
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#29
It's all about money....they know VolNation travels well regardless of how good\bad we are !
 
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golfballs said:
Had we beaten Vandy would we be ranked over Auburn or Florida? Not so sure
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Absolutely we would be. We would be 9-3 and ahead of both of them. No way would a 8-4 Auburn or 8-3 Florida who we beat would have been ranked ahead of us. They would have made sure a 9-3 TN team would be headed to the Sugar over a very average 8-4 Auburn team. But it doesn't matter now with that inexcusable loss to Vandy.
 
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#31
howie said:
Still 5-0 until injuries. Your post was how the record was the same. Without injuries we win A&M, SC and Vandy. AppSt a good team as was Ohio. Yes we were flat but found a way to win. Injuries took that ability away.
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My post was about the valid concerns regarding why the team repeated an 8-4 record.

Pure speculation that we would have won those games. If if-and-buts are the order of the day, we'd have been 3-2 if not for luck and timid play calling by App State, and once in a lifetime luck with GA. Works both ways.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
App state and Ohio are not good teams, they are average. Especially when mentioning them in the same breath as Tennessee. App state played 2 semi good teams and one above average team and lost them all. A semi good Miami took them to the woodshed. An above average Troy beat them and a semi good UT needed a miracle to beat them.

Ohio? A team that lost to Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan and Texas State. Oh and could only manage 9 points against powerhouse Akron? Man arent they a great team. Just stop it. Stop thinking that either of those teams should have been within 4 TDs of us.

I used to think without the injuries we could have beaten SC, Vandy and TAMU but honestly, I really dont know.
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You do realize that App State won their conference this year and Ohio plays in their conference championship game on Friday, right? But I guess we're still living in the 90's where parity hasn't spread across large portions of college football. Open your eyes. A blue blood name on your jersey doesn't always mean you steam roll any of the "lesser" schools. Maybe you haven't noticed but guys from lower divisions get drafted all the time. Or are you the type of guy who thinks Rothlisberger, Flacco, and Wentz just flipped a switch and became good when they got to the NFL?
 
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NCFisher said:
My post was about the valid concerns regarding why the team repeated an 8-4 record.

Pure speculation that we would have won those games. If if-and-buts are the order of the day, we'd have been 3-2 if not for luck and timid play calling by App State, and once in a lifetime luck with GA. Works both ways.
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Last year people complained about Butch losing to UF and OU only winning the easy games at the end of the year. Now people are complaining about Butch losing the easy games at the end of the year while beating UF and Va Tech
 
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08Vol said:
You do realize that App State won their conference this year and Ohio plays in their conference championship game on Friday, right? But I guess we're still living in the 90's where parity hasn't spread across large portions of college football. Open your eyes. A blue blood name on your jersey doesn't always mean you steam roll any of the "lesser" schools. Maybe you haven't noticed but guys from lower divisions get drafted all the time. Or are you the type of guy who thinks Rothlisberger, Flacco, and Wentz just flipped a switch and became good when they got to the NFL?
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What players do in the NFL is completely irrelevant. Still living in the 90s? Ok you must not have read what I typed. App state is in the Sun Belt. If you really think that ANY team in the Sun Belt should be hanging with Tennessee then you have really low expectations. Besides, App state got blown out by a decent Miami team. A lot on here said oh wait until App St plays Miami, blah, blah, blah. Yeah we saw what happened. Yet we needed a miracle to beat them.

Ohio? Like I said, they got beat by Texas State. A team thats won a total of 2 freakin games. Just stop with this ignorant BS. Neither one of those teams should have even sniffed a win against a top 10 UT team. Your NFL logic means as much as a zipper on a washcloth.

I am glad that you expect very little from Tennessee football.
 
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08Vol said:
Last year people complained about Butch losing to UF and OU only winning the easy games at the end of the year. Now people are complaining about Butch losing the easy games at the end of the year while beating UF and Va Tech
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Whats wrong with that?
 
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temptn said:
A lot of teams with a lot of losses. Eleven in the top 25 have 3-4 losses.
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Exactly. I'm not happy with how things turned out but looking at the teams around us it makes sense. Have to admit I'm surprised though.
 
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