Derek Dooley Has It Made

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**Warning - this posting will be delivered in an installment format, suitable for reduced-sized reading at your leisure. However, each will contain a lot of, "words". If you prefer not to read a lot of "words", please stop now, and continue watching videos of monkeys urinating into their own mouths. Thank You**

Despite the tumultuous events of the last several seasons which have left much of the fan base feeling both beleaguered and betrayed, and the dire prognostications of the coming football season (or two or three, depending upon how much you drink), I’ve been thinking that there is one person who has it made: Derek Dooley
Through the strangest and most circuitous series of events imaginable, Derek Dooley finds himself to be sitting in the best coaching gig in America. Perhaps even better than Meyer, Saban, Brown and Kiffin.
Here are some reasons why:

How & Why He Got the Gig
How often will the Tennessee job ever be vacant in consecutive years? You’ll likely never see it again.

And how many other coaches would be left wholly unconsidered the first hiring cycle, despite having just capped off a winning season with a bowl win – and then go on to win the exact same position the very next season, and after having posted their second losing season in three years? I am only aware of one: Derek Dooley

Had Kiffin’s departure was neither so abrupt nor untimely, would Dooley have been hired? Given another four weeks, would Hamilton have gone in a different direction? It’s hard to argue against it, as he had only done so one year previously – and it’s difficult to believe that the addition of a second losing season somehow made Dooley a most attractive candidate.

With the vast majority of the fan base either still smarting from Fulmer’s (the traditionalists’ poster-child) forced resignation or suffering the fresh wound of Kiffin’s ultimate betrayal – could there have been a better possible candidate, from a personality standpoint, than Dooley, what with his southern familial ties and euphemisms? He was a younger version of Fulmer, and the anti-Kiffin – and it satisfied a great contingency in both camps.

The Boss He Works For
How closely do you think that Dooley will be watched and monitored by an AD who has shown himself to be equal parts bungling and inept on many issues of importance? About as well as he watched Fulmer tank the program over the course of several seasons, and oversaw Kiffin’s multiple secondary violations and thumbing his nose at the league office. Short Answer: Not very closely, if at all.

How scrutinizing do you think Dooley will find Hamilton to be, considering that he already sits atop an oven-warm seat, himself? Some say that Dooley’s firing will coincide with Hamilton’s. I tend to agree, but I don’t believe that Hamilton even has the same cushion as the new head coach he just hired. Should the program continue to struggle (on the field or off), it’s not hard to envision Hamilton being shown the door, before Dooley.

How quick would the AD’s finger be in the pulling the trigger on firing Dooley – even if he has a calamitous first three seasons? Well, considering the aforementioned reasons (above), “sloth-like” would be an apt description. Don’t believe Hammy would keep someone around simply to prevent his own base from further eroding? Please see, “Raleigh, Todd” and then come talk to me.

The next installments:
The Program He Inherited
The Team He Leads

Please discuss and/or add any others which you believe to be of merit - be it in opposition, or agreement.
 
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I stopped reading after the monkeys urinating in their mouths. That has got to be more entertaining then this post.
 
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Tenacious D said:
**Warning - this posting will be delivered in an installment format, suitable for reduced-sized reading at your leisure. However, each will contain a lot of, "words". If you prefer not to read a lot of "words", please stop now, and continue watching videos of monkeys urinating into their own mouths. Thank You**
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You literally eliminated 90% of the other people here.
 
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I appreciate the effort TD, but for all the analysis there has been these past months, one thing remains indisputably true.... This is the biggest 'we'll just have to wait and see' moment in Tennessee football history.

I think Dooley can do this job. But no one can claim the slightest certainty until Derek Dooley puts a team on the field against the SEC.
 
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BigRed said:
You literally eliminated 90% of the other people here.
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I hope not, as its points are both valid and sincerely provided.

For all of the talk about the program being embroiled in a tumultuous time, and the immediate outlook of the team being, let's say, "less-than-ideal" - I think that something of value can be gleened from seeing it from Dooley's perspective, which couldn't be either any more fortuitous or rosy, insofar as he must be personally concerned.

As I began thinking about the many reasons why he was sitting in the proverbial cat-bird's seat.....more and more reasons began to come to mind. Hopefully, someone will find other reasons that I missed, or even some to refute those which I offered.

You may be proven right about the respective posters to the site, but again, I hope not.
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
I appreciate the effort TD, but for all the analysis there has been these past months, one thing remains indisputably true.... This is the biggest 'we'll just have to wait and see' moment in Tennessee football history.

I think Dooley can do this job. But no one can claim the slightest certainty until Derek Dooley puts a team on the field against the SEC.
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I appreciate your candor. However, you'll notice that I have avoided any sort of prognostication as to how successful he may utlimately prove to be, as such remains wholly unknown. Admittedly, depsite my best efforts to steer clear of the "will-he-or-won't he-be-good" debate, such may be an unavoidable at some point in the conversation, however, this should be the exception, and not the rule.

Instead, I am strictly hoping to see this from Dooley's personal perspective, as he may experience it. I think it's an interesting vantage point to seek and discuss.
 
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lulz .. I posted something that you'd already said .. you make good points
 
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IPorange said:
Thinking about how much Dooley "has it made" provides me little comfort...
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Maybe it shouldn't comfort you, if true. Maybe it should, if false. Or the reverse could be true.

But this is our guy now, and it might be worth it to attempt to see it through his eyes before we can think about how it may or may not impact us, as fans.
 
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Shoot man, I think it is a pretty well written read. Like it.....bring on the next
 
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Tenacious D said:
Maybe it shouldn't comfort you, if true. Maybe it should, if false. Or the reverse could be true.

But this is our guy now, and it might be worth it to attempt to see it through his eyes before we can think about how it may or may not impact us, as fans.
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Clearly, from his point of view, it is the opportunity of a lifetime.

People who reach his level of achievement rarely spend much time considering failure. Derek is the type of man who sets a path to success, then goes about the business of getting there. A lifetime of learning at the best level surely helped cement the necessity of this process.

This is laudable, and exactly the kind of work ethic UT football will need in the years to come. So from his eyes, he does have it made. The question is what happens when roadblocks hit. Then, public perception of his performance will have everything to do with whether he 'has it made'.

Good conversation though...
 
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Though he likely shares more personal characteristics with Fulmer than he does with Kiffin, I probably wouldn't call him a younger version of Phil. Intellectually, he seems to be miles ahead. Otherwise, I agree with the premise. The timing of the opening definitely created an opportunity that may not have been available under different circumstances.

The only party with their stones on the chopping block in this situation is Mike Hamilton. Dooley won't have any problems finding a job (barring some unforeseen Mike Leach moment) if this goes south, but Mike Hamilton will be done.
 
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Lexvol said:
Though he likely shares more personal characteristics with Fulmer than he does with Kiffin, I probably wouldn't call him a younger version of Phil. Intellectually, he seems to be miles ahead. Otherwise, I agree with the premise. The timing of the opening definitely created an opportunity that may not have been available under different circumstances.

The only party with their stones on the chopping block in this situation is Mike Hamilton. Dooley won't have any problems finding a job (barring some unforeseen Mike Leach moment) if this goes south, but Mike Hamilton will be done.
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Agreed. MH had way more to lose with this hire than Derek Dooley did in taking the job. Tennessee Football supports the other athletic departments (generally speaking) and the university won't allow our program to head any further south than what it already is. Unless it does. And then MH will be fired.
 
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I think we would be in good shape if Dooley is a Fulmer clone as far as getting the talent here, but if he is Fulmeresque in motivating and coaching em' up.... thats where the problem and undoing will be.

The reason i'm not on the negative side right now, is that I feel that Dooley did the best thing he could've done by bringing in the staff he did.

When he pulled Rogers and Hunter, along with Neal at the end from rival SEC schools, it showed me he can recruit. And with the resumes(sp) that the assistants bring, I feel we can get there sooner rather than later.

Remember talent isn't what has us worried ATM... it is depth and inexperience. If we coach em' up, and avoid the injury bug... I don't see a reason why the 10' Vols can't make some noice and kick in a few doors.

GBO!
 
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Tenacious D said:
**Warning - this posting will be delivered in an installment format, suitable for reduced-sized reading at your leisure. However, each will contain a lot of, "words". If you prefer not to read a lot of "words", please stop now, and continue watching videos of monkeys urinating into their own mouths. Thank You**

Despite the tumultuous events of the last several seasons which have left much of the fan base feeling both beleaguered and betrayed, and the dire prognostications of the coming football season (or two or three, depending upon how much you drink), I’ve been thinking that there is one person who has it made: Derek Dooley
Through the strangest and most circuitous series of events imaginable, Derek Dooley finds himself to be sitting in the best coaching gig in America. Perhaps even better than Meyer, Saban, Brown and Kiffin.
Here are some reasons why:

How & Why He Got the Gig
How often will the Tennessee job ever be vacant in consecutive years? You’ll likely never see it again.

And how many other coaches would be left wholly unconsidered the first hiring cycle, despite having just capped off a winning season with a bowl win – and then go on to win the exact same position the very next season, and after having posted their second losing season in three years? I am only aware of one: Derek Dooley

Had Kiffin’s departure was neither so abrupt nor untimely, would Dooley have been hired? Given another four weeks, would Hamilton have gone in a different direction? It’s hard to argue against it, as he had only done so one year previously – and it’s difficult to believe that the addition of a second losing season somehow made Dooley a most attractive candidate.

With the vast majority of the fan base either still smarting from Fulmer’s (the traditionalists’ poster-child) forced resignation or suffering the fresh wound of Kiffin’s ultimate betrayal – could there have been a better possible candidate, from a personality standpoint, than Dooley, what with his southern familial ties and euphemisms? He was a younger version of Fulmer, and the anti-Kiffin – and it satisfied a great contingency in both camps.

The Boss He Works For
How closely do you think that Dooley will be watched and monitored by an AD who has shown himself to be equal parts bungling and inept on many issues of importance? About as well as he watched Fulmer tank the program over the course of several seasons, and oversaw Kiffin’s multiple secondary violations and thumbing his nose at the league office. Short Answer: Not very closely, if at all.

How scrutinizing do you think Dooley will find Hamilton to be, considering that he already sits atop an oven-warm seat, himself? Some say that Dooley’s firing will coincide with Hamilton’s. I tend to agree, but I don’t believe that Hamilton even has the same cushion as the new head coach he just hired. Should the program continue to struggle (on the field or off), it’s not hard to envision Hamilton being shown the door, before Dooley.

How quick would the AD’s finger be in the pulling the trigger on firing Dooley – even if he has a calamitous first three seasons? Well, considering the aforementioned reasons (above), “sloth-like” would be an apt description. Don’t believe Hammy would keep someone around simply to prevent his own base from further eroding? Please see, “Raleigh, Todd” and then come talk to me.

The next installments:
The Program He Inherited
The Team He Leads

Please discuss and/or add any others which you believe to be of merit - be it in opposition, or agreement.
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Hebetude!
 
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Lexvol said:
Though he likely shares more personal characteristics with Fulmer than he does with Kiffin, I probably wouldn't call him a younger version of Phil. Intellectually, he seems to be miles ahead. Otherwise, I agree with the premise. The timing of the opening definitely created an opportunity that may not have been available under different circumstances.

The only party with their stones on the chopping block in this situation is Mike Hamilton. Dooley won't have any problems finding a job (barring some unforeseen Mike Leach moment) if this goes south, but Mike Hamilton will be done.
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 This is exactly what I think.
 
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Lexvol said:
Though he likely shares more personal characteristics with Fulmer than he does with Kiffin, I probably wouldn't call him a younger version of Phil. Intellectually, he seems to be miles ahead. Otherwise, I agree with the premise. The timing of the opening definitely created an opportunity that may not have been available under different circumstances.

The only party with their stones on the chopping block in this situation is Mike Hamilton. Dooley won't have any problems finding a job (barring some unforeseen Mike Leach moment) if this goes south, but Mike Hamilton will be done.
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The funny part of this would be if Hamilton gets shown the door, that Dooley take his job. Which I would much rather see. It is definitely better than the alternative.
 
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I do believe Dooley "has it made" to a greater degree than that coach who went to USC. I would be willing to wager Dooley stays longer.
 
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Why don't you just get all your whining about Dooley done in one post? Are installments really necessary?
 
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