Big Al Orange
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If you think that sounds "incredibly", wait till you hear this.
Each team only gets to sign right at 25. So all those teams with 20 commits, only get 5 more, while we get 14 more.
It's like preseason rankings, it doesn't matter now. It only matters where you finish.
Lets see where we are on the first Wednesdatyin February 2020 before we get our bowls in an uproar. Way to early to leap out a tenth story window. We are in a similar position last year and we signed a very good class, especially for a first year head coach and coming off the worst season in the school's history.So you’re not at all concerned with us being ranked outside the top 25 at this point and think we could still end up with a great class. Is it possible? Yes. Probable? No. If the current rankings have little correlation between the final rankings...then it’s quite the coincidence that the top 10 include uga, Michigan, Florida, LSU, and of course Clemson amd bama (currently at 1 and 2). If we were currently ranked between 12-18 l, I wouldn't be thrilled but might be cautiously optimistic considering we still had a lot of room. But at this point we’re not going to end up with a great class. We’re too far behind. Whether you’re willing to admit it or not.
We have a lot of work to do to get in the top 20. And virtually no chance at a top 10/12ish class. And while I don’t believe we need top 5 classes to contend for a championship, you definitely need to do better than top 20.
So you’re not at all concerned with us being ranked outside the top 25 at this point and think we could still end up with a great class. Is it possible? Yes. Probable? No. If the current rankings have little correlation between the final rankings...then it’s quite the coincidence that the top 10 include uga, Michigan, Florida, LSU, and of course Clemson amd bama (currently at 1 and 2). If we were currently ranked between 12-18 l, I wouldn't be thrilled but might be cautiously optimistic considering we still had a lot of room. But at this point we’re not going to end up with a great class. We’re too far behind. Whether you’re willing to admit it or not.
We have a lot of work to do to get in the top 20. And virtually no chance at a top 10/12ish class. And while I don’t believe we need top 5 classes to contend for a championship, you definitely need to do better than top 20.
Wtf?So you’re not at all concerned with us being ranked outside the top 25 at this point and think we could still end up with a great class. Is it possible? Yes. Probable? No. If the current rankings have little correlation between the final rankings...then it’s quite the coincidence that the top 10 include uga, Michigan, Florida, LSU, and of course Clemson amd bama (currently at 1 and 2). If we were currently ranked between 12-18 l, I wouldn't be thrilled but might be cautiously optimistic considering we still had a lot of room. But at this point we’re not going to end up with a great class. We’re too far behind. Whether you’re willing to admit it or not.
We have a lot of work to do to get in the top 20. And virtually no chance at a top 10/12ish class. And while I don’t believe we need top 5 classes to contend for a championship, you definitely need to do better than top 20.
Doing this for those that don't follow recruiting. This is just a quick example pic of what the next 10 - 12 teams in front of us, look like. Look at their number of 4 stars vs 3 stars etc..
We could literally accept commitments from almost anyone and jump them.
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This is like 3rd grade level math, I actually hope that guy is trolling because if not, dayuummm.
yeah, there's room to move up. how far? that's the unknown.I'll be clear at the beginning here and say, I don't know if it's the same posters or not. But it is funny when Bama and Georgia were in the high teens and low to mid twenties during the summer, some of our fans were all giddy they were doing so poorly. Turned out they only had 10-12 commitments compared to everyone else's 20-25. But February... 8 months and a whole season and post season later mind you, BOOM!!
Obviously I don't think we end up THAT good, but come on.
We've got some good posters that honestly just don't follow recruiting. As long as they get the other, real picture, instead of his scare tactics.. only result I'm after.@chargervol you're fight is valiant, but unwarranted, and will not yeild the result desired. you can take solace in just knowing you're right......
Wtf?
We only have 11 commits! You are acting like those scrub teams are actually ahead of us, they're not!
Do you understand???
We could accept 6 commitments from nothing but 3 stars right now and jump a 1/4 on that list. And 10-12 is what I'm shooting for. Not even near the position on the field, this class, to be discussing Bama and Clemson.
Just be honest, are you really this hard headed or are you just trying to troll and make readers nervous? I know you're the same guy that tried to convince everyone that TN fans would never allow 4* Cooper Mays to commit here, I think you're just trolling, tbh.
Also, I’d add that most recruiting rankings only take into account your top 15 or so. That means that adding 14 3 stars won’t necessarily jump us ahead of all those other teams ahead of us. We’ll be fortunate to end up with a top 20 class.
oh, bless your heart.Why do you act as though I can’t comprehend that we have fewer commitments than some of the other teams that are ranked higher than us? Obviously… I get that. But what you don’t seem to get is we are way farther behind than anyone would hope to be at this point. At what point would you accept that we are not doing well? We are barely inside the top 30 right now. What if we were barely inside the top 50? Would you still say don’t worry, we only have 12 recruits? We’re going to crush it come February. It’s like you’re oblivious to the reality that this coaching staff wishes we had more recruits signed right now. And again, if it matters nothing right now… Why is the current top 10 made up of all of the best recruiting teams? Why or Clemson and Alabama number one right now when it doesn’t matter? Also, I’d add that most recruiting rankings only take into account your top 15 or so. That means that adding 14 3 stars won’t necessarily jump us ahead of all those other teams ahead of us. We’ll be fortunate to end up with a top 20 class.
Heck, I want 2 bets.
One starting right now on the "most only count the top 15"
And a 2nd one on the "lucky to get top 20".
Long but cliff notes for those curious.I don't follow recruiting hardly at all, but even without reading yours and others explanations, it ain't rocket surgery to look at the numbers and figure those out.
We were a total cluster fork at the end of 17, in damn near every way possible, and had a 4-8 record and got in tbe top 20. We only won 1 more last year, but we had enough good to build on.
It's July and the staff has been doing some work. There are no guarantees, but it's way too early to be chicken chit skurt. IMO.
all of this.Long but cliff notes for those curious.
My general scope:
Anything better than horrendous, end of days, season, top 20.
Mediocre/expected season: 10th - 16th.
Surprisingly great season - who knows but really good.
The days of beating our chest and just saying TN are over. At least until we win again. Butch was our last shot at using our brand. These kids now, don't know anything about us except that we struggle.
Basically EVERYONE in the SEC has good facilities now, hell, even KY. So we can get over that as well. Excluding absolute nobodies, i.e. Vandy.
What we do have - decent location and a great recruiting staff. Only team with a losing record in these kid's top 5. And highest ranked class by far last year - amongst losing records.
Bottom line, We must win before all this "but Clemson and Bama are..." crap. Kids don't give a damn what TN did 20 years ago. The afore mentioned teams are NC's, we're shooting for a bowl.
Why do you act as though I can’t comprehend that we have fewer commitments than some of the other teams that are ranked higher than us? Obviously… I get that. But what you don’t seem to get is we are way farther behind than anyone would hope to be at this point. At what point would you accept that we are not doing well? We are barely inside the top 30 right now. What if we were barely inside the top 50? Would you still say don’t worry, we only have 12 recruits? We’re going to crush it come February. It’s like you’re oblivious to the reality that this coaching staff wishes we had more recruits signed right now. And again, if it matters nothing right now… Why is the current top 10 made up of all of the best recruiting teams? Why or Clemson and Alabama number one right now when it doesn’t matter? Also, I’d add that most recruiting rankings only take into account your top 15 or so. That means that adding 14 3 stars won’t necessarily jump us ahead of all those other teams ahead of us. We’ll be fortunate to end up with a top 20 class.