DaRick, Depth, and Bama

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After thinking about the events surrounding DaRick over the last 24-36 hours, I've come to the conclusion that much of this issue is really about UT's lack of quality depth. Yes, depth. DaRick is and has acted like a total jackwagon in large part because he and Dooley both know that there is only one DaRick on the team. There is nobody on the roster that equals his talent and could step in immediately at his position and be as productive should he be dismissed. The same holds true for Janzen Jackson. Dools gave him every chance he possibly could because frankly, there was no other JJ on the roster, and JJ knew it. Dools is actually in a tough situation with players like this because he knows they can't be replaced with equal or near equal talent so he is forced to put up with alot of BS from these egos in order keep them on the team and field as long as possible.

For reference, take Bama for instance. A major reason guys like Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, and Mark Barron keep their act together is because Bama has such unbelievable quality depth, and those guys know if they jacked around, Saban would put them on the first plane back to mama's cooking and would have little trouble replacing them with the next guy in line who probably had as many stars as they had coming out of HS. The fear of being easily replaced keeps alot of these egos in check. Unfortunately for UT, we have some unbelievably talented skill position players like DaRick, just no one behind them of equal talent.

Let's face it - depth not only helps on the field, it helps off it as well. Your thoughts please.
 
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maybe the players you listed are just more mature than DR or JJ. Assuming they do this just because of a spot on a team is kind of insulting
 
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I agree with this. If I'm not mistaken, Vincent Dallas is backing up Rogers. I think he has the tools to be a good WR, but he's a ture soph and only had a handful of catches last year at the most. If there was someone more proven waiting in the wings, I could see that pushing Da'Rick to take care of his business. It's hard not to feel entitled/get spoiled when you were the only viable offensive weapon on the team last year.
 
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Its a lot easier to release a player when it is evident his replacement(s) is not far behind in being ready to play.
 
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JJ and DR had discipline issues from day one. Actually, before day one if you count high school. They were risky players from the beginning, so lets not act like we are surprised that they are still this way. Perhaps quality depth has something to do with it, but I think most of it has to do with jj and dr just being immature.
 
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i agree. but da'rick has been in the news in someway or form since he got here. i don't believe some of the other talented players such as hunter, maggitt, a.j. johnson, etc. would be acting like this for any reason. and the depth behind them is bare as well.
 
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fade route said:
After thinking about the events surrounding DaRick over the last 24-36 hours, I've come to the conclusion that much of this issue is really about UT's lack of quality depth. Yes, depth. DaRick is and has acted like a total jackwagon in large part because he and Dooley both know that there is only one DaRick on the team. There is nobody on the roster that equals his talent and could step in immediately at his position and be as productive should he be dismissed. The same holds true for Janzen Jackson. Dools gave him every chance he possibly could because frankly, there was no other JJ on the roster, and JJ knew it. Dools is actually in a tough situation with players like this because he knows they can't be replaced with equal or near equal talent so he is forced to put up with alot of BS from these egos in order keep them on the team and field as long as possible.

For reference, take Bama for instance. A major reason guys like Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, and Mark Barron keep their act together is because Bama has such unbelievable quality depth, and those guys know if they jacked around, Saban would put them on the first plane back to mama's cooking and would have little trouble replacing them with the next guy in line who probably had as many stars as they had coming out of HS. The fear of being easily replaced keeps alot of these egos in check. Unfortunately for UT, we have some unbelievably talented skill position players like DaRick, just no one behind them of equal talent.

Let's face it - depth not only helps on the field, it helps off it as well. Your thoughts please.
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I hate the race card, but it is weird you mentioned all black players. It is also insulting to say they only acted good because there was guys behind them to take their spot. Read PJ's post.
 
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I agree with this. And it's another way that the Vol Curse is rearing its ugly head, i.e. DeAnthony Arnett. WR is the one position where we couldn't afford to lose another quality player.. Other than Hunter and DR, he was clearly the most talented and dependable WR on the field last year, and he got some pretty good experience throughout the course of the season.

Losing him hurts even worse now considering the fact that DR probably won't be here when we take the field in Atlanta.
 
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Agreed. I mentioned similar in another thread. As a coach in the same situation and needed wins to show a fanbase all will be ok, I need more than Zach Rogers to make an impression. If we had 3 or 4 proven wrs, DR would either be gone or drama free.
I'm to the point that DD has to send him away if he really tweeted anti UT stuff. That move really leaves no option.
 
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Its all really simple, if DR thinks he is above rules and thinks he is bigger than the team, you approach him and tell him to either get his act together or find a new school to attend. If DR leaves he will be making a big mistake in his career, if he stays he grows up and becomes a better player and a citizen to society. No player is bigger than the team and he will realize it one way or another.
 
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GmanTN said:
Its all really simple, if DR thinks he is above rules and thinks he is bigger than the team, you approach him and tell him to either get his act together or find a new school to attend. If DR leaves he will be making a big mistake in his career, if he stays he grows up and becomes a better player and a citizen to society. No player is bigger than the team and he will realize it one way or another.
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That's the point. As a HC and no wrs in your third year with must wins on the horizon, it isn't that simple.
 
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fade route said:
After thinking about the events surrounding DaRick over the last 24-36 hours, I've come to the conclusion that much of this issue is really about UT's lack of quality depth. Yes, depth. DaRick is and has acted like a total jackwagon in large part because he and Dooley both know that there is only one DaRick on the team. There is nobody on the roster that equals his talent and could step in immediately at his position and be as productive should he be dismissed. The same holds true for Janzen Jackson. Dools gave him every chance he possibly could because frankly, there was no other JJ on the roster, and JJ knew it. Dools is actually in a tough situation with players like this because he knows they can't be replaced with equal or near equal talent so he is forced to put up with alot of BS from these egos in order keep them on the team and field as long as possible.

For reference, take Bama for instance. A major reason guys like Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, and Mark Barron keep their act together is because Bama has such unbelievable quality depth, and those guys know if they jacked around, Saban would put them on the first plane back to mama's cooking and would have little trouble replacing them with the next guy in line who probably had as many stars as they had coming out of HS. The fear of being easily replaced keeps alot of these egos in check. Unfortunately for UT, we have some unbelievably talented skill position players like DaRick, just no one behind them of equal talent.

Let's face it - depth not only helps on the field, it helps off it as well. Your thoughts please.
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It may be very spot on. However, it does not square with the high character, VFL, stuff that Dooley goes on and on about. Particularly, the bit about him realizing he could have done a better job with team building and chemistry last year.

If that's the case he comes off lacking credibility with those he leads.
 
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vol66 said:
It may be very spot on. However, it does not square with the high character, VFL, stuff that Dooley goes on and on about. Particularly, the bit about him realizing he could have done a better job with team building and chemistry last year.

If that's the case he comes off lacking credibility with those he leads.
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Most coaches play favorites. Anyone that's been in a locker room before knows it. An all sec performer with noone behind him on the roster makes it more difficult to manage, especially when the clown is acting like a kid.
 
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This team needs DR. I mean without him they would have only won five games last year...
Uh...oh...nevermind.

Maybe nobody noticed the mass exodus of coaches. But when a head coach allows a player to dog cuss an assistant, you've got problems. It could result in coaches taking lateral moves, even for less pay.
 
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Agree. On a side note Why can't it be that the players that were mentioned are elite and their skin happens to be black.Instead of making it like he picked them out because of color.
 
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tvols75 said:
I hate the race card, but it is weird you mentioned all black players. It is also insulting to say they only acted good because there was guys behind them to take their spot. Read PJ's post.
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its a percentage thing.
 
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tvols75 said:
I hate the race card, but it is weird you mentioned all black players. It is also insulting to say they only acted good because there was guys behind them to take their spot. Read PJ's post.
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Yet you played it.
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tvols75,

The majority of WR's and DB's are of what race? No race card was played.
 
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fade route said:
After thinking about the events surrounding DaRick over the last 24-36 hours, I've come to the conclusion that much of this issue is really about UT's lack of quality depth. Yes, depth. DaRick is and has acted like a total jackwagon in large part because he and Dooley both know that there is only one DaRick on the team. There is nobody on the roster that equals his talent and could step in immediately at his position and be as productive should he be dismissed. The same holds true for Janzen Jackson. Dools gave him every chance he possibly could because frankly, there was no other JJ on the roster, and JJ knew it. Dools is actually in a tough situation with players like this because he knows they can't be replaced with equal or near equal talent so he is forced to put up with alot of BS from these egos in order keep them on the team and field as long as possible.

For reference, take Bama for instance. A major reason guys like Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, and Mark Barron keep their act together is because Bama has such unbelievable quality depth, and those guys know if they jacked around, Saban would put them on the first plane back to mama's cooking and would have little trouble replacing them with the next guy in line who probably had as many stars as they had coming out of HS. The fear of being easily replaced keeps alot of these egos in check. Unfortunately for UT, we have some unbelievably talented skill position players like DaRick, just no one behind them of equal talent.

Let's face it - depth not only helps on the field, it helps off it as well. Your thoughts please.
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Great post.

Very intelligent.

Now stop before you get booted from VN. We don't hold no truck with intelligent posting in these here parts. :eek:hmy:
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Most coaches play favorites. Anyone that's been in a locker room before knows it. An all sec performer with noone behind him on the roster makes it more difficult to manage, especially when the clown is acting like a kid.
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I agree, but most coaches aren't in Dooley's position. He's coming off a season where some players put themselves above the program AND DOOLEY RECOGNIZED THIS AND ADDRESSED IT WITH THE TEAM.

The team either #1 doesn't give a darn about DR's behavior anymore or #2 they are looking for CDD to bring down the hammer and let the chips fall where they may.

Because he acknowledged his role in his teams unraveling he has to address it, which he did btw. "If he doesn't do the things he's spose to do, he won't be here." He looked like he wanted to throw up, but he did say it, lol.
 
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