Dane Bradshaw

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utvol0427

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It seems as though he has disappeared. Last night he only had 3 points and they came from the free thrown line and only had three rebounds. Was is the deal with him lately?
 
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I don't know. Couldn't actually see the game last night, but it seems he's still doing all the little things he usually does, he's just not looking for a shot.

Ramar's role has stepped up quite bit. Maybe that is a factor...
 
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Points and rebounds are not all that he is good for, he does the little things that add up. people get so wrapped up in statistics, drives me insane. for ex. i was redshirted my jr. yr due to some knee surgeries, and there was a guy on the team who ended up bein player of the yr n the conf. bc he avg. the most pts a game in the conf. at like 21, ya that looks great, but he got his 21 on an avg of 17 shots from the field, and an avg of 12 freethrows a game. holy sh*t, if i didn't avg 21 w/ that many shots someone should shoot me
 
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I agree that Bradshaw does the little things that doesn't show up on the stat sheets, but it seems that his name is being called that often. It would probably help if the games were on T.V. and I could watch them.
 
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He only took a couple of shots last night...couldn't get to the rim. He was matched up with a guy maybe 6 inches taller, which posed some problems for him getting any open looks.
 
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Bradshaw is a gladiator. He is getting the hell beat out of him every night playing down low with players who are 3 to 5 inches taller and out weigh him by at 35 pounds. Give him a break.
 
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utvol0427 said:
It seems as though he has disappeared. Last night he only had 3 points and they came from the free thrown line and only had three rebounds. Was is the deal with him lately?
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thats about normal for him, he's not a guy that shows up all the time in the stat chart, but he didnt have one of his better games with 5 turnovers
 
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I am sporting his jersey in the Reptile section this weekend, so maybe that will add some luck. Besides, Bradshaw owns the Gators. :post-4-1090547912:
 
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What's with all the Dane Bradshaw "he does the little things" stuff? I admire how he plays and some of the small things he does, but he plays as many minutes as he does by default. I know there are lots of Dane fans on here and I'm generally supportive, but let's stop deluding ourselves into believing that he is the "glue guy." That's a hackneyed expressions for those who generally can't contribute in other ways and are holding down a spot until we can find a better solution.
 
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Dane is a rather unique case, because he's not big, he's not quick, and he's not a very good shooter; given those things, one might logically ask, "why, why does he start?" As the team's only Senior, his leadership on the floor is invaluable. He seems to serve as the "coach on the floor" for the team, and nobody plays harder and gives more of himself. He's in there on every loose ball situation, he gets more than his share of rebounds, he can sometimes knock down a clutch 3, picks a few unsuspecting pockets here and there, and he dishes out some SWEET assists.

He can start for my team anytime.
 
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DowntownVol said:
Dane is a rather unique case, because he's not big, he's not quick, and he's not a very good shooter; given those things, one might logically ask, "why, why does he start?" As the team's only Senior, his leadership on the floor is invaluable. He seems to serve as the "coach on the floor" for the team, and nobody plays harder and gives more of himself. He's in there on every loose ball situation, he gets more than his share of rebounds, he can sometimes knock down a clutch 3, picks a few unsuspecting pockets here and there, and he dishes out some SWEET assists.

He can start for my team anytime.
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yadda yadda yadda. The coach on the floor (except at Vandy's abortion of an arena) is about 30 feet away. We don't need another and "coach on the floor" is about as tired as all of the other stuff being bandied about. He does not get more than his share of boards given that he's playing 3 or 4. He anchors the press because he cannot full court pressure but he provides no deterrent when the press is broken, hence teams make 50 layups per night against us. We could go on.

The point is that, yes, most Vol fans like Bradshaw for what he represents as the underdog, and he does make some plays, but in the end, he simply suffices until we can find a better option who can make more of an impact more often. If either of our young freshmen 4/5 men were playing better (more consistently), Dane would see his minutes curtailed severely and our team would be better for it.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
yadda yadda yadda. The coach on the floor (except at Vandy's abortion of an arena) is about 30 feet away. We don't need another and "coach on the floor" is about as tired as all of the other stuff being bandied about. He does not get more than his share of boards given that he's playing 3 or 4. He anchors the press because he cannot full court pressure but he provides no deterrent when the press is broken, hence teams make 50 layups per night against us. We could go on.

The point is that, yes, most Vol fans like Bradshaw for what he represents as the underdog, and he does make some plays, but in the end, he simply suffices until we can find a better option who can make more of an impact more often. If either of our young freshmen 4/5 men were playing better (more consistently), Dane would see his minutes curtailed severely and our team would be better for it.
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You do need leadership on the floor. Dane provides that. He motivates players when they need it and adds an extra spark every chance he gets. He also was matched against a guy 6 inches taller than him last night because we didn't have a better option. And he did a damn good job, considering. Ever tried to shoot over a guy 6 inches taller? no wonder his scoring wasn't up to par last night. Who would you have put in in his place?
 
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MphsBlues said:
You do need leadership on the floor. Dane provides that. He motivates players when they need it and adds an extra spark every chance he gets. He also was matched against a guy 6 inches taller than him last night because we didn't have a better option. And he did a damn good job, considering. Ever tried to shoot over a guy 6 inches taller? no wonder his scoring wasn't up to par last night. Who would you have put in in his place?
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I'm not sure I can make this simple enough for you, but you're making MY point exactly.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I'm not sure I can make this simple enough for you, but you're making MY point exactly.
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Oh, I get it now! YOUR point is that if we had a better player for that position we would use him instead of Bradshaw! Thanks for that. And if we had Durant instead of Chism, Durant would play. Now if we just had Oden instead of Crews we wouldn't need to put Duke in the game. It all makes sense now.
 
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MphsBlues said:
Oh, I get it now! YOUR point is that if we had a better player for that position we would use him instead of Bradshaw! Thanks for that. And if we had Durant instead of Chism, Durant would play. Now if we just had Oden instead of Crews we wouldn't need to put Duke in the game. It all makes sense now.
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You're welcome to take this to the extreme to make yourself feel good about Dane, but he fills a spot that we would like to have filled by an SEC caliber 3/4 type. We don't need an All-American, just SOME size and SOME athletic ability. Better player, I don't care, but more suited to what we would like out of that position, yes I would like to have over a "glue" guy.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
You're welcome to take this to the extreme to make yourself feel good about Dane, but he fills a spot that we would like to have filled by an SEC caliber 3/4 type. We don't need an All-American, just SOME size and SOME athletic ability. Better player, I don't care, but more suited to what we would like out of that position, yes I would like to have over a "glue" guy.
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To paraphrase Rummy: you play basketball with the team you have, not the team you might wish to have.

Are there better 3/4 players than Bradshaw? Sure. Do we have any on this year's squad? No. Tabb's not ready, Childress is just not very good, and everyone else is a walk-on.

And have you already forgotten about the steal and spinning layup against Florida on the road last year? Or the insane tip-in against Oklahoma State? The ability to make plays in clutch situations is a HUGE intangible.
 
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Dane Bradshaw is as clutch as it gets. He plays hurt, he gives 110% out there on the floor whether or not anyone else is, and he holds the rest of the guys accountable. I have seen him in the faces of some freshmen many times this year when they do something wrong, and congratulating them when they do it right.
 
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The thing with Dane is he feeds off of Chris, wait til Chris returns and see if you don't hear more from the Dane.
 
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blaker024 said:
Dane Bradshaw is as clutch as it gets. He plays hurt, he gives 110% out there on the floor whether or not anyone else is, and he holds the rest of the guys accountable. I have seen him in the faces of some freshmen many times this year when they do something wrong, and congratulating them when they do it right.
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I'd like to see someone start holding Bradshaw accountable for his pathetic play of late. If Josh Tabb or Tony Passley were playing the same minutes Bradshaw is, with the absolute dearth of production, people would be screaming for a lineup change.
 
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I've got to agree with hat, he just is not getting it done. He does have heart but has anyone noticed how much he complains when he is called for a foul?
 
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have ya'll played sports before? this guys is as valuable as chris lofton for the simple fact that when our young guys start panicing and turning the ball over, he can bring the ball up the court, he can play any position on the floor. he does the little things, he's never been a big scorer.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
have ya'll played sports before? this guys is as valuable as chris lofton for the simple fact that when our young guys start panicing and turning the ball over, he can bring the ball up the court, he can play any position on the floor. he does the little things, he's never been a big scorer.
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Yes, we've all played sports.
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
have
ya'll played sports before? this guys is as valuable as chris lofton for the simple fact that when our young guys start panicing and turning the ball over, he can bring the ball up the court, he can play any position on the floor. he does the little things, he's never been a big scorer.
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Yeah, a guy whose presence on the floor means we're playing 4 on 5 offensively is real valuable. He can be put at any position on the floor, he just can't play any of them well. Bradshaw gets the adulation from the fans because they all see themselves in him. I, on the other hand, will take talent everytime.
 
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