Daevin Hobbs is out for spring with a foot injury

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Skooter said:
Maybe one day you’ll step out from behind a computer, tell a 6’5 300 lb 20 year old he’s fragile, record it and let us watch you get broken in half in 10 seconds. I’d pay good money to see it.
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Professional athletes are not immune to criticism, you know. Calling him fragile is perfectly justifiable, given his injury history.
 
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Pawleysvol said:
This fanbase is the worst. Legit psychopaths when it comes to football
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Worst? Idk. Maybe top five.

Bama fans kill each other after each loss or go poison trees on other peoples campus. We have some cowardly adult children that act like fools to our players but we’re not close to the worse fanbase. Texas, Bama, Auburn all worse by far off the top of my head.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Worst? Idk. Maybe top five.

Bama fans kill each other after each loss or go poison trees on other peoples campus. We have some cowardly adult children that act like fools to our players but we’re not close to the worse fanbase. Texas, Bama, Auburn all worse by far off the top of my head.
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I dont know. Our fanbase would at least take theirs into overtime in a head to head match-up of all time worse fans.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
He is not a professional athlete. Like many here, you don't understand the term.
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He is actively getting paid to play football. Whether or not it falls in line with the traditional definition of "professional athlete" is pretty irrelevant. He isn't above criticism just because he plays for a college program.
 
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Carp said:
He is actively getting paid to play football. Whether or not it falls in line with the traditional definition of "professional athlete" is pretty irrelevant. He isn't above criticism just because he plays for a college program.
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No, he isn't above criticism, but labeling him as fragile in a physically violent sport like football is low class. How do you think you would fare playing his position?
 
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orangebloodgmc said:
So, VFLs like Trey Smith, who persevered and worked to overcome ailments and injuries ... you think he is "fragile"? 🤔
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1. Trey Smith had a blood clot disorder, not an injury. Had Trey Smith constantly missed games or had to be pulled out of games for various injuries, it would indeed be justifiable to call him "fragile."

2. Trey Smith missed only half a season of play in his entire college career. He made 41 starts. He and Hobbs are NOT the same.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
No, he isn't above criticism, but labeling him as fragile in a physically violent sport like football is low class. How do you think you would fare playing his position?
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Again, that is irrelevant. That isn't a criticism of him as a person, so no, that isn't "low class." It's an objective criticism and it's grounded in facts.

Players who constantly get injured are constantly labeled as "fragile" in every sport, regardless if it's college or professional. Would you prefer "injury prone" instead?
 
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Fragile and injury prone are synonymous terms. Fragile literally means something breaks easily.
 
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Carp said:
Fragile and injury prone are synonymous terms. Fragile literally means something breaks easily.
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No, they're not synonymous. Because of the position he plays, getting in unusual bodily positions can be more susceptible for injury. Using "fragile" is a lazy take, void of nuance
 
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Carp, you do realize, many college players miss an entire season due to health issues, often an injury, sometimes a break, and can be granted an entire season's worth of medical redshirt. This is not uncommon.

But, I guess that makes each one of them "fragile" and "injury-prone." 🤷
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
No, they're not synonymous. Because of the position he plays, getting in unusual bodily positions can be more susceptible for injury. Using "fragile" is a lazy take, void of nuance
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Yes, they are synonymous. A simple Google search can prove that. And it doesn't matter what position he plays. When someone says he's fragile, it's understood he is being compared to people at the same position or even football players in general.
 
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orangebloodgmc said:
Carp, you do realize, many college players miss an entire season due to health issues, often an injury, sometimes a break, and can be granted an entire season's worth of medical redshirt. This is not uncommon.

But, I guess that makes each one of them "fragile" and "injury-prone." 🤷
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We're not talking about a 1 off injury. We're taking about a guy that has been constantly injured since he stepped on campus. Hobbs has missed or was other otherwise not available for no Iess than 8 games over the last 3 years.

When he goes to the draft, the primary concern in his draft profile will be that his injury history. And they will use the term "injury prone."
 
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Carp said:
We're not talking about a 1 off injury. We're taking about a guy that has been constantly injured since he stepped on campus. Hobbs has missed or was other otherwise not available for no Iess than 8 games over the last 3 years.

When he goes to the draft, the primary concern in his draft profile will be that his injury history. And they will use the term "injury prone."
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Injury prone doesn't mean a player is a "slacker" or "just collecting a check." It means their body may not be cut out for high level sports but Heupel and training staff could have a talk with him about that if he wishes and encourage him to retire.

Whether he gets money or not, he doesn't owe anyone enough to damage his body for the sport. If he chooses to play and his body suffers, it's a choice. If he feels his body will be damaged, it's a choice.

If he can't meet the responsibilities and goals UT has for him, it's on Coach Heupel and UT to tell him he's not wanted.

Being a fan with almost zero knowledge, sure..... go ahead and trash the kid. It says much much more about you than him.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Injury prone doesn't mean a player is a "slacker" or "just collecting a check." It means their body may not be cut out for high level sports but Heupel and training staff could have a talk with him about that if he wishes and encourage him to retire.

Whether he gets money or not, he doesn't owe anyone enough to damage his body for the sport. If he chooses to play and his body suffers, it's a choice. If he feels his body will be damaged, it's a choice.

If he can't meet the responsibilities and goals UT has for him, it's on Coach Heupel and UT to tell him he's not wanted.

Being a fan with almost zero knowledge, sure..... go ahead and trash the kid. It says much much more about you than him.
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I didn't say those things, or even insinuate those things. So I am not sure what you are talking about.

He was called fragile by someone else. I happen to agree, because he has issues staying healthy. That isn't trashing him. It's stating a fact.
 
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Carp said:
I didn't say those things, or even insinuate those things. So I am not sure what you are talking about.

He was called fragile by someone else. I happen to agree, because he has issues staying healthy. That isn't trashing him. It's stating a fact.
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The fact that Heupel continues to keep him says he's valuable to the team or Heupel's judgement sucks.

Your call.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Without any context they might be synonymous. It absolutely matters what position he plays.
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Not might be. The are synonymous. And the context is that someone called him fragile because he is constantly injured (i.e. injury prone).
 
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Carp said:
That is completely irrelevant to the point. But please, keep preaching into the ether.
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So what's your problem? I suspect I'd not tell Hobbs he's fragile to his face though I'm about his size (his weight is much better proportioned than mine which is concentrated around my belly button at this point.)

I feel certain you're not man enough to do what he does, put the stress required on your body, nor anything of the kind.

I'll wager you know less than zero about what his position requires of his body but sure he's fragile to you.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
So what's your problem? I suspect I'd not tell Hobbs he's fragile to his face though I'm about his size (his weight is much better proportioned than mine which is concentrated around my belly button at this point.)

I feel certain you're not man enough to do what he does, put the stress required on your body, nor anything of the kind.

I'll wager you know less than zero about what his position requires of his body but sure he's fragile to you.
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The point is this is a forum where we talk about footbal. And football players are part of that discussion. And they are not above criticism.

Again, the first thing NFL scouts will note in their evals is that he has an extensive injury history. Are they "hating" on the young man too? Or should they be afraid he's going to pick a fight with him for noting that?

I'm sorry that you are unable to grasp we are talking about football. He is "fragile" in relation to his ability to stay on the football field. Apparently you're too "fragile" to understand that.
 
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