Currie: The Pawn & Scapegoat

[UT_King]

Currie was told who to hire and quickly became the target for people to place their frustration. Schiano? Haslam's choice. The reason why it was negotiated under a cloak? Currie knew it would not go over well as the fans expected more (deservedly so). The backlash was greater than anyone expected but it was to late, and his reputation took the damage. After days of being drug through the mud, he decided to take matters into his own hands.

Knowing the brass would not support a Mike Leach hire, he went forward to pursue him anyways. This accomplished two things. One, it helped restore his reputation. Two, it showed that the real decision makers are who blocked a great hire, NOT him. Leach is very successful, very attainable, and not overly expensive. Most importantly, he would be an overwhelming fan favorite.

For going rogue, and simultaneously making them look bad, he was fired. This is bigger than the Athletic Director. He was a pawn, used as a shield, and now we move on to the next pawn. Does Currie have culpability? Yes, but bottom line you will do what your boss tells you.

We cut down a weed... but the roots remain.

 

[GoVols876]

I think you are right. Currie was absolutely hamstrung in the hiring decisions.

The question is, by who?

 

[jakez4ut]

you'll find out today at 4 when they announce who the interim ad is.

if it's sigmon, HOH is doing just fine.

fulmer, and hoh took a big hit, and a new sheriff is in town.

 

[GoVols876]

you'll find out today at 4 when they announce who the interim ad is.

If it's sigmon, hoh is doing just fine.

Fulmer, and hoh took a big hit, and a new sheriff is in town.

hoh?

 

[OrangeYankee]

you'll find out today at 4 when they announce who the interim ad is.

if it's sigmon, HOH is doing just fine.

fulmer, and hoh took a big hit, and a new sheriff is in town.

I really hope you are right. I think it's going to be Fulmer regardless, I'm just waiting to see whose side he's on. Love the guy, and I really think this is the right place for him as long as he's not just part of the good ole boys network.

 

[WhitewaterVol]

hoh?

House of Haslam

 

[UT_King]

you'll find out today at 4 when they announce who the interim ad is.

if it's sigmon, HOH is doing just fine.

fulmer, and hoh took a big hit, and a new sheriff is in town.

Agreed, the next AD should indicate if power really is shifting.

 

[vol-un-tear]

Is seems like Haslam would want to run a successful profitable business. He obviously can't run the Browns. He hurt Pilot with the scandal. He's killing our football program. There needs to be a major power play to get them out! We need someone who cares about the brand and success!

 

[jakez4ut]

I really hope you are right. I think it's going to be Fulmer regardless, I'm just waiting to see whose side he's on. Love the guy, and I really think this is the right place for him as long as he's not just part of the good ole boys network.

i think it's fair to at least question, really, where fulmer's allegiances are, but haslam, hammy and currie are the ones that got him fired back in 08. fulmer has always been an Anderson guy.

my gut says fulmer is on the right side of this, with anderson (among other boosters that are tired of haslam), the bot and president.

and given that davenport, members of the bot and the president were all present for the meeting with currie this morning, my hope is that means they're exerting themselves to remove the haslam influence.

we'll find out later today.

 

[jakez4ut]

Is seems like Haslam would want to run a successful profitable business. He obviously can't run the Browns. He hurt Pilot with the scandal. He's killing our football program. There needs to be a major power play to get them out! We need someone who cares about the brand and success!

i think/hope that's what happened this morning.

fingers crossed.

 

[OrangeYankee]

i think it's fair to at least question, really, where fulmer's allegiances are, but haslam, hammy and currie are the ones that got him fired back in 08. fulmer has always been an Anderson guy.

my gut says fulmer is on the right side of this, with anderson (among other boosters that are tired of haslam), the bot and president.

and given that davenport, members of the bot and the president were all present for the meeting with currie this morning, my hope is that means they're exerting themselves to remove the haslam influence.

we'll find out later today.

We will, and I do see how you came to your conclusion, since at this point it's all but obvious that Hamilton through Currie were definitely part of that network. But I also give credence to the smoke surrounding Currie's ouster. Yeah Schiano and Doeren were bad, but there were some legit good candidates there too: Gundy, Leach, and Brohm. If Currie was legit trying to get those good ones, then dude wasn't being TOO bad... and if he got fired for actually trying to land a good coach? That doesn't sit very well with me either.

 

[FaithDrivenVol]

Someone call Trump to hire us a coach LOL

 

[jakez4ut]

We will, and I do see how you came to your conclusion, since at this point it's all but obvious that Hamilton through Currie were definitely part of that network. But I also give credence to the smoke surrounding Currie's ouster. Yeah Schiano and Doeren were bad, but there were some legit good candidates there too: Gundy, Leach, and Brohm. If Currie was legit trying to get those good ones, then dude wasn't being TOO bad... and if he got fired for actually trying to land a good coach? That doesn't sit very well with me either.

currie was set up to fail, once sunday happened, and he and haslam were either going to shove thru a coach this week, and it's business as usual, or it was going to end badly and currie would be a fall guy.

i have no idea if he had haslam's blessing on leach.

i do know he did when trying to hire gundy, as hyams reported that he had haslam's blessing to make that offer.

then the deal with davenport blocking brohm's contract is kind of a line of demarcation. but who drew that line? was currie rogue against haslam or ut at that point???

i think we find out when the interim ad is announced.

 

[slydwz]

Currie was told who to hire and quickly became the target for people to place their frustration. Schiano? Haslam's choice. The reason why it was negotiated under a cloak? Currie knew it would not go over well as the fans expected more (deservedly so). The backlash was greater than anyone expected but it was to late, and his reputation took the damage. After days of being drug through the mud, he decided to take matters into his own hands.

Knowing the brass would not support a Mike Leach hire, he went forward to pursue him anyways. This accomplished two things. One, it helped restore his reputation. Two, it showed that the real decision makers are who blocked a great hire, NOT him. Leach is very successful, very attainable, and not overly expensive. Most importantly, he would be an overwhelming fan favorite.

For going rogue, and simultaneously making them look bad, he was fired. This is bigger than the Athletic Director. He was a pawn, used as a shield, and now we move on to the next pawn. Does Currie have culpability? Yes, but bottom line you will do what your boss tells you.

We cut down a weed... but the roots remain.

Oswald acted alone. Jesus!

 

[DiderotsGhost]

I know what it's like.

My last job, I had an incompetent boss similar to Haslam. He would give all the employees quotas for their ideas (I won't say what I did, but I had to come up with 4 good ideas and reports each year.) He would then reject all of our ideas (the thing he hired us for) and instead force us to work on his crap ideas. And since he evaluated us on the performance of those ideas and you couldn't pursue your own (since he would knee-jerk reject them all), you were basically left to chose from his bad ideas.

So you pretty much look like you don't know what you're doing even if you very good at what you do. Currie may have been in a similar spot. That said, the reviews of him from Kansas State weren't exactly complimentary either. He ran off Frank Martin and tried to run off Bill Snyder, so I suspect this is a case of both Currie being undermined, but also Currie having a bad personality for the job to begin with.

 

[DaUndergroundMan]

Currie was told who to hire and quickly became the target for people to place their frustration. Schiano? Haslam's choice. The reason why it was negotiated under a cloak? Currie knew it would not go over well as the fans expected more (deservedly so). The backlash was greater than anyone expected but it was to late, and his reputation took the damage. After days of being drug through the mud, he decided to take matters into his own hands.

Knowing the brass would not support a Mike Leach hire, he went forward to pursue him anyways. This accomplished two things. One, it helped restore his reputation. Two, it showed that the real decision makers are who blocked a great hire, NOT him. Leach is very successful, very attainable, and not overly expensive. Most importantly, he would be an overwhelming fan favorite.

For going rogue, and simultaneously making them look bad, he was fired. This is bigger than the Athletic Director. He was a pawn, used as a shield, and now we move on to the next pawn. Does Currie have culpability? Yes, but bottom line you will do what your boss tells you.

We cut down a weed... but the roots remain.

Great post, and if true, Currie did not go gentle into that good night.

 

[volfan102455]

i think it's fair to at least question, really, where fulmer's allegiances are, but haslam, hammy and currie are the ones that got him fired back in 08. fulmer has always been an Anderson guy.

my gut says fulmer is on the right side of this, with anderson (among other boosters that are tired of haslam), the bot and president.

and given that davenport, members of the bot and the president were all present for the meeting with currie this morning, my hope is that means they're exerting themselves to remove the haslam influence.

we'll find out later today.

I hope they are exerting themselves to remove influence from ALL BIG TIME BOOSTERS. Sorry but moving from one to the other just moves the mess to a different set of folks.

There are no innocent folks here - I wish folks would stop pretending there are.

 

[volinbham]

A friend of Currie's (allegedly) just called in and laid all this at the feet of the Haslams - said the stuff about Fulmer was not true as well.

 

[DiderotsGhost]

i think it's fair to at least question, really, where fulmer's allegiances are, but haslam, hammy and currie are the ones that got him fired back in 08. fulmer has always been an Anderson guy.

my gut says fulmer is on the right side of this, with anderson (among other boosters that are tired of haslam), the bot and president.

and given that davenport, members of the bot and the president were all present for the meeting with currie this morning, my hope is that means they're exerting themselves to remove the haslam influence.

we'll find out later today.

I hope you're right.

I know I certainly don't want the other Haslam pawn (Reid Sigmon) as the interim AD. While I question Fulmer, I'd still much rather have him than another Haslam yes-man.

 

[jakez4ut]

I hope you're right.

I know I certainly don't want the other Haslam pawn (Reid Sigmon) as the interim AD. While I question Fulmer, I'd still much rather have him than another Haslam yes-man.

:thumbsup:

 

[LakeMaryFLVol]

I know what it's like.

My last job, I had an incompetent boss similar to Haslam. He would give all the employees quotas for their ideas (I won't say what I did, but I had to come up with 4 good ideas and reports each year.) He would then reject all of our ideas (the thing he hired us for) and instead force us to work on his crap ideas. And since he evaluated us on the performance of those ideas and you couldn't pursue your own (since he would knee-jerk reject them all), you were basically left to chose from his bad ideas.

So you pretty much look like you don't know what you're doing even if you very good at what you do. Currie may have been in a similar spot. That said, the reviews of him from Kansas State weren't exactly complimentary either. He ran off Frank Martin and tried to run off Bill Snyder, so I suspect this is a case of both Currie being undermined, but also Currie having a bad personality for the job to begin with.

Social misfit ...Unable to establish effective professional relationships. Insecure in own skill set and tries to micromanage to compensate for deficiencies. Will throw others under bus for own missteps and steal solid intellectual capital from staff and then claim ownership... a guess 😄

 

[NEVolFan]

House of Haslam

i.e., POM.

 

[90 Vol]

 

[UT_King]

I know what it's like.

My last job, I had an incompetent boss similar to Haslam. He would give all the employees quotas for their ideas (I won't say what I did, but I had to come up with 4 good ideas and reports each year.) He would then reject all of our ideas (the thing he hired us for) and instead force us to work on his crap ideas. And since he evaluated us on the performance of those ideas and you couldn't pursue your own (since he would knee-jerk reject them all), you were basically left to chose from his bad ideas.

So you pretty much look like you don't know what you're doing even if you very good at what you do. Currie may have been in a similar spot. That said, the reviews of him from Kansas State weren't exactly complimentary either. He ran off Frank Martin and tried to run off Bill Snyder, so I suspect this is a case of both Currie being undermined, but also Currie having a bad personality for the job to begin with.

I totally agree Currie is partially to blame, but he is not the root cause. The Leach situation helps provide proof.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Currie was told who to hire and quickly became the target for people to place their frustration. Schiano? Haslam's choice. The reason why it was negotiated under a cloak? Currie knew it would not go over well as the fans expected more (deservedly so). The backlash was greater than anyone expected but it was to late, and his reputation took the damage. After days of being drug through the mud, he decided to take matters into his own hands.

Knowing the brass would not support a Mike Leach hire, he went forward to pursue him anyways. This accomplished two things. One, it helped restore his reputation. Two, it showed that the real decision makers are who blocked a great hire, NOT him. Leach is very successful, very attainable, and not overly expensive. Most importantly, he would be an overwhelming fan favorite.

For going rogue, and simultaneously making them look bad, he was fired. This is bigger than the Athletic Director. He was a pawn, used as a shield, and now we move on to the next pawn. Does Currie have culpability? Yes, but bottom line you will do what your boss tells you.

We cut down a weed... but the roots remain.

Maybe I am missing something here, but if Currie "went rogue" then he had to know he would be fired as a result (after Brohm there was no way he could initiate another search without pre-approval), so not sure how getting fired could restore his reputation. If you are meaning it would restore his reputation with the fanbase then he really is an idiot because once he was fired our opinion of him would irrelevant.