Currie and Company unprofessional

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The Tall Gguy

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They need to act like they have done this before rather than giving the appearance of running around begging coaches to come to Tennessee.
 
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What else would you expect out of the same group that said they would do a thorough search and bring in the best coach, when they knew schiano was gonna be their coach before they fired Lyle.

They have no clue and now that Haslam has to stay far away and can’t just tell him who he’s gonna hire he truly does have no clue.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
They need to act like they have done this before rather than giving the appearance of running around begging coaches to come to Tennessee.
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They're like the one brave kid at the middle school dance who asks 15 girls to dance before one finally shrugs their shoulders, sighs, and says "I guess"
 
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I can't believe that Schiano was our first choice but it looks like that was the case... because we are now hearing about every phone call. Before Sunday it was mostly just silence and guesswork. We weren't hearing about other contacts because other contacts weren't being made. Unbelievable. Schiano was their guy and they were waiting until Ohio State's regular season ended to announce it. That blows my mind!
 
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Well, his first choice went down in flames. Not sure how much interviewing took place before Schiano, but I'm sure he's in full interview and vet mode now. Usually have to travel to see the candidates as they aren't coming to your place. What would you expect Currie to do? Take a couple of weeks making phone calls to candidates? I'm on record as asking for Currie to be fired, but he's doing what is expected and required if he's flying out to see Gundy. We wanted to pay top dollar. We wanted to go for a splash hire. If this report is true, Currie is doing just that. Might cut the guy a little slack....at least until he makes a hire.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I can't believe that Schiano was our first choice but it looks like that was the case... because we are now hearing about every phone call. Before Sunday it was mostly just silence and guesswork. We weren't hearing about other contacts because other contacts weren't being made. Unbelievable. Schiano was their guy and they were waiting until Ohio State's regular season ended to announce it. That blows my mind!
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Everybody waits til the regular season is over, and you better hope that doesn't change if you think coaching silly season is crazy right now.

The bigger problem was that apparently Schiano was the only choice.

The biggest problem is that nothing reported about coaching searches is factual. None of the who, when, why, how, how much - none of it comes from official sources, and none of it can be trusted.
 
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Currie's actually never done this before and it shows. All he did at K-State was run off Frank Martin as B-ball coach and undermine Bill Snyder.

The one running the show here is Haslam and he clearly has no idea how to do anything right.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
They need to act like they have done this before rather than giving the appearance of running around begging coaches to come to Tennessee.
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Do we really care about perception at this point?

All that really matters in a coaching search is the result.

Alabama looked silly when Rich Rodriguez backed out. Their search dragged on and on, but it all turned out well because they got their guy (and they were criticized for overpaying at the time).

I would rather hear that we went after Petersen and Fuentes and Frost than sit and wonder if our AD is making any effort at all.

If we hire a good coach, no one will care how many turned us down. And if we hire a bad coach, no one will care how smoothly the search went.
 
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JazzMaster001 said:
Currie's actually never done this before and it shows. All he did at K-State was run off Frank Martin as B-ball coach and undermine Bill Snyder.

The one running the show here is Haslam and he clearly has no idea how to do anything right.
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Please see the Cleveland Browns operation since he took over. That is one well run outfit.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
They need to act like they have done this before rather than giving the appearance of running around begging coaches to come to Tennessee.
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Amen to this. We look incredibly foolish to the world. Currie really screwed this up from the start. Unprofessional is indeed the most apt word.

He waited way too long to let Butch go. We could have been the first to choose among coaches looking for or open to new jobs.

He allowed the Gruden charade to go on without flattening that nonsense from the get-go.

He ultimately wanted to hire a .500 coach. He didn't due basic due diligence in vetting that coach.

Once word got out about that coach, the redneck and/or drunk-sophomore lunatic fringe took to the streets...and Currie backed down. Backing down from a vocal, ridiculous minority after you've already signed a MOU with a coach? Are you kidding me?

Who's in charge, Mr. Currie -- you or the mob? A few crazies get crazy publicly and you dump a coach the day you hired him? And then you release a statement that you had vetted him fully? Okay...if you vetted him fully and offered him the job, then why in the he!! did you fire him/cancel the MOU?

What credibility does Currie or the university have now because of his mistakes? Who in his right mind would want to work for Currie or have him as a boss? He has proven that he will throw a coach under the bus as soon as the mob gets too unruly.

Currie showed no leadership, none whatsoever, during this major transition in Tennessee football. He still hasn't. He did not guide the ship during this stormy period...he left it rudderless.

We needed a steady, firm, confident hand on the tiller and, in a matter of weeks, we are stilling looking for one.
 
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DenmarkVol said:
Amen to this. We look incredibly foolish to the world. Currie really screwed this up from the start. Unprofessional is indeed the most apt word.

He waited way too long to let Butch go. We could have been the first to choose among coaches looking for or open to new jobs.

He allowed the Gruden charade to go on without flattening that nonsense from the get-go.

He ultimately wanted to hire a .500 coach. He didn't due basic due diligence in vetting that coach.

Once word got out about that coach, the redneck and/or drunk-sophomore lunatic fringe took to the streets...and Currie backed down. Backing down from a vocal, ridiculous minority after you've already signed a MOU with a coach? Are you kidding me?

Who's in charge, Mr. Currie -- you or the mob? A few crazies get crazy publicly and you dump a coach the day you hired him? And then you release a statement that you had vetted him fully? Okay...if you vetted him fully and offered him the job, then why in the he!! did you fire him/cancel the MOU?

What credibility does Currie or the university have now because of his mistakes? Who in his right mind would want to work for Currie or have him as a boss? He has proven that he will throw a coach under the bus as soon as the mob gets too unruly.

Currie showed no leadership, none whatsoever, during this major transition in Tennessee football. He still hasn't. He did not guide the ship during this stormy period...he left it rudderless.

We needed a steady, firm, confident hand on the tiller and, in a matter of weeks, we are stilling looking for one.
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Great Post and I agree....Dysfunctional AD infected the entire Hill.
 
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Roustabout said:
Currie has literally never done this before.
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oregonvol said:
Do we really care about perception at this point?

All that really matters in a coaching search is the result.

Alabama looked silly when Rich Rodriguez backed out. Their search dragged on and on, but it all turned out well because they got their guy (and they were criticized for overpaying at the time).

I would rather hear that we went after Petersen and Fuentes and Frost than sit and wonder if our AD is making any effort at all.

If we hire a good coach, no one will care how many turned us down. And if we hire a bad coach, no one will care how smoothly the search went.
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^^^this^^^ Who cares what anyone says as long as we end up with a good coach.
 
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DenmarkVol said:
Amen to this. We look incredibly foolish to the world. Currie really screwed this up from the start. Unprofessional is indeed the most apt word.

He waited way too long to let Butch go. We could have been the first to choose among coaches looking for or open to new jobs.

He allowed the Gruden charade to go on without flattening that nonsense from the get-go.

He ultimately wanted to hire a .500 coach. He didn't due basic due diligence in vetting that coach.

Once word got out about that coach, the redneck and/or drunk-sophomore lunatic fringe took to the streets...and Currie backed down. Backing down from a vocal, ridiculous minority after you've already signed a MOU with a coach? Are you kidding me?

Who's in charge, Mr. Currie -- you or the mob? A few crazies get crazy publicly and you dump a coach the day you hired him? And then you release a statement that you had vetted him fully? Okay...if you vetted him fully and offered him the job, then why in the he!! did you fire him/cancel the MOU?

What credibility does Currie or the university have now because of his mistakes? Who in his right mind would want to work for Currie or have him as a boss? He has proven that he will throw a coach under the bus as soon as the mob gets too unruly.

Currie showed no leadership, none whatsoever, during this major transition in Tennessee football. He still hasn't. He did not guide the ship during this stormy period...he left it rudderless.

We needed a steady, firm, confident hand on the tiller and, in a matter of weeks, we are stilling looking for one.
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I have to disagree with the "the redneck and/or drunk-sophomore lunatic fringe" part. First I think fans have every right to say what they think - that's one of the basics in this county. Second, I have no problem with "mob rule" shouting down an inept AD; the guy is an utter fool who happened to get his hands burned trying to slip a quick one by. He was on his way to hiring Butch 2.0 - but one with a fatal defect attached to his name.

The Penn St allegations against Schiano do in fact matter; not because they are true or proven, but because they would be used against UT on the recruiting trail.

However, the real thing that nobody seems to be getting is the political response. When have you ever known a politician to answer to the guy on the street? Currie obviously couldn't be legitimately stopped, and someone (or more) leaked the information about what was going on so that the influential boosters could get to the politicians - and UT is a state school. Currie (probably above Currie) likely responded to political pressure - not to mobs in the street. That was the diversion while the political wrangling took place.

Yes, by all indications Currie is an abject failure - just like Hamilton and Hart because somebody keeps looking in the wrong direction for ADs. Except for the fact that somebody has to fill the position and sign a coaching contract, Currie should have been fired Sunday afternoon - just as soon as his plot was uncovered and stopped. He apparently falls into that special category of people too stupid to breathe on their own.
 
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DenmarkVol said:
Who's in charge, Mr. Currie -- you or the mob? A few crazies get crazy publicly and you dump a coach the day you hired him? And then you release a statement that you had vetted him fully? Okay...if you vetted him fully and offered him the job, then why in the he!! did you fire him/cancel the MOU?
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I'm guessing other multi-million dollar donors told them in a not so friendly way that there would be no more money if they hired that douchebag at Ohio State. They need that money for those renovations, and I believe that was the very threat that saved us from getting the smelliest turd in the turd parade for a head coach.
 
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DenmarkVol said:
Amen to this. We look incredibly foolish to the world.
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There are many who think that Volunteer fans did the right thing in not letting untested coaching or mediocrity once again be set before them.

Currie really screwed this up from the start. Unprofessional is indeed the most apt word.
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True

He waited way too long to let Butch go. We could have been the first to choose among coaches looking for or open to new jobs.
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True

He allowed the Gruden charade to go on without flattening that nonsense from the get-go.
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TRUE!

He ultimately wanted to hire a .500 coach. He didn't due basic due diligence in vetting that coach.
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TRUE! But he wanted to hire his buddy.

Once word got out about that coach, the redneck and/or drunk-sophomore lunatic fringe took to the streets...and Currie backed down. Backing down from a vocal, ridiculous minority after you've already signed a MOU with a coach? Are you kidding me?
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False. You cannot call everyone who objected "redneck and/or drunk-sophomore lunatic fringe".
There were at least 70+ elected representatives from the statehouse who got involved. There was a goodly number of donors involved. And I don't know anyone who'd take kindly to your poor choice of descriptors. I don't.

Who's in charge, Mr. Currie -- you or the mob? A few crazies get crazy publicly and you dump a coach the day you hired him? And then you release a statement that you had vetted him fully? Okay...if you vetted him fully and offered him the job, then why in the he!! did you fire him/cancel the MOU?

What credibility does Currie or the university have now because of his mistakes? Who in his right mind would want to work for Currie or have him as a boss? He has proven that he will throw a coach under the bus as soon as the mob gets too unruly.
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You keep running with that "mob" BS. It was a totally understandable fan reaction after being lied to about a "big expensive explosive" splash hire. Shiano is a has been head coach nobody, NOBODY, liked with a shady past,warranted or not.
Even if given the benefit of the doubt about Penn State he approaches lunatic levels with his filming of Bucs players on the sidelines and in the locker room. He was universally disliked. All any coach after the same recruit Tennnessee would need to do is print out article after article after article on Shiano's mean spiritedness and just plain weirdness and leave it on the sofa beside mama and papa during an in home visit.

Currie showed no leadership, none whatsoever, during this major transition in Tennessee football. He still hasn't. He did not guide the ship during this stormy period...he left it rudderless.
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True, and his boss, Davenport was nothing but a yes mam in all of it. If the rightous uproar by all classes of VOL fans hadn't immediately started, she would have signed off the MOU.

We needed a steady, firm, confident hand on the tiller and, in a matter of weeks, we are stilling looking for one.
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Actually three. Head coach, AD, and chancellor.
 
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I assumed the silence to be one of the smartest moves we had seen at Tennessee in a long time. I felt that provided our best chance at getting either a top coach from another power 5 program that they would throw big money at, or a legitimate coach from an independent or group of 5 with a good record and solid plan.

Schiano's record was not good and someone that send his defense charging a kneel down would have been bad enough. But not being ahead of the accusations was inexcusable. Currie has been around here long enough to know that, and so has the staff around him.

When I sit back and think about all the coaches they didn't even call to pursue this guy, I question their commitment to build a winning football program. Of course if they follow this mess up with bringing in the right coach? There is a chance we can move past this. A chance. Maybe a decent one.But going forward he needs to make smart choices and maybe have the guts to tell the Haslams this won't work.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I can't believe that Schiano was our first choice but it looks like that was the case... because we are now hearing about every phone call. Before Sunday it was mostly just silence and guesswork. We weren't hearing about other contacts because other contacts weren't being made. Unbelievable. Schiano was their guy and they were waiting until Ohio State's regular season ended to announce it. That blows my mind!
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As you said, this is unbelievable, but the evidence indicates that no one was contacted prior to Sunday evening except for Greg Schiano... nobody. We could have had Mullen or Pruitt if Currie had gone after one of them, but he didn't even try. He had his and Haslam's buddy, Greg Schaino, on the cuff for $3.6 million even before Butch was fired. Oh what a deal! As a UT fan since the days of Bill Battle, I am sick and tired of these CoachMart bluelight specials Hamilton and Hart have peddled off on us... and that Currie tried to. It is time for a house-cleaning in the UTAD and for Haslam to be barred from ever showing his face inside the athletic offices ever again. Just my opinion.

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