current 2027 recruiting class and tennessee's strategy

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brockytop said:
Coleman isn’t an expensive miss at this point based on how his contract was structured. He’ll cost TN very little if he doesn’t play for the Vols.
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My point is, someone ante up the 2 million commitment and Coleman becomes another example of an expensive player not panning out. Which gives the guys putting up the millions, pause. I agree they aren't losing anything with him, just the optics are not good if you want to help financially.
 
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LWSVOL said:
My point is, someone ante up the 2 million commitment and Coleman becomes another example of an expensive player not panning out. Which gives the guys putting up the millions, pause. I agree they aren't losing anything with him, just the optics are not good if you want to help financially.
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Coleman’s situation should be exactly what investors want out of NIL. Little money spent upfront and being on the field is what gets the player paid.

The “optics” BS you refer to is nothing but noise.
 
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brockytop said:
Coleman’s situation should be exactly what investors want out of NIL. Little money spent upfront and being on the field is what gets the player paid.

The “optics” BS you refer to is nothing but noise.
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well, that noise has caused some to pause in regards to football.. We shall see if there is an impact...
 
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It seems like most of the P5 schools have decided to dial down recruiting HS seniors from previous years no matter the sport. Other than the true can't miss 5 & 4 star type players that is. Why? Portal and NIL. Why take a big risk on a high school youngster when you can go out and meet your needs on an experienced college player where you can review film? That's the big change in recruiting and it's not just football. If your school has a tiddly winks team, they're handling it this way as well.
 
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Heupel's Offseason Beard said:
Heard the same thing this time last year. Finished with #9 class in the country. Patience my friend.
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nah boss, according to the wayback machine this time last year Tennessee had the #23 class. Today we have the #53 class. that's a MASSIVE difference.

You COULD argue that it's just because Tennessee isn't done yet, but look at the top 250 recruits in the country and how many are left uncommitted. Outside of DGG, Tennessee doesn't even have legitimate offers out on most of the remaining players, maybe 3-4 players even have offers, let alone actually considering UT in their top 3.

Something is BIG different this year.
 
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The NIL mess is brought to you by players fed up with decades of exploitation by self-centered college programs, boosters,a d the like. Then compounded by runaway capitalism. Now, as workarounds are being sought, here is the ultimate result. Potential HS recruits seeing they are less valued than portal picks, will focus on lower tier schools to increase chances of seeing the field. Bit by bit, these lower tiers will become what the AFL became to the NFL
Boise State, North Dakota State, etc already knocking on the door, to big time CFB. You think we have a mess now? You ain't seen nuttin yet.
 
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brockytop said:
Coleman isn’t an expensive miss at this point based on how his contract was structured. He’ll cost TN very little if he doesn’t play for the Vols.
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That’s certainly a good thing for next year, having not wasted that money. Could have used 1 or 2 extra DT’s for that $2 million.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
The NIL mess is brought to you by players fed up with decades of exploitation by self-centered college programs, boosters,a d the like. Then compounded by runaway capitalism. Now, as workarounds are being sought, here is the ultimate result. Potential HS recruits seeing they are less valued than portal picks, will focus on lower tier schools to increase chances of seeing the field. Bit by bit, these lower tiers will become what the AFL became to the NFL
Boise State, North Dakota State, etc already knocking on the door, to big time CFB. You think we have a mess now? You ain't seen nuttin yet.
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What you described is parity. That’s a good thing.
 
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VolinMichigan said:
What you described is parity. That’s a good thing.
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make no mistake there will be no parity. the only thing that is changing is that the balance of power is moving from teams who historically had tradition and high levels of recruiting built off brand name to teams who have the most money to spend.

it will still be the haves and the have nots but the basis will now be on money not tradition. the handful of teams that can spend the most will win the most.
 
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adam.vol said:
That’s certainly a good thing for next year, having not wasted that money. Could have used 1 or 2 extra DT’s for that $2 million.
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This is correct about Coleman. The loss is not in money Coleman received but in "opportunity cost" that the money budgeted this year for Coleman didn't go elsewhere this year.

That "opportunity cost" cannot be regained as some other player, who would have played at UT this year if we'd put that money toward them, may be signed elsewhere and gone for good.

It's definitely a loss but how much is hard to calculate without being inside the budgeting process of who we didn't choose because we chose Coleman. We'll never know who they skipped to take him.
 
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adam.vol said:
That’s certainly a good thing for next year, having not wasted that money. Could have used 1 or 2 extra DT’s for that $2 million.
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If his NIL dictated not taking additional DTs due to financial constraints then someone needs his head examined. Heupel himself loves to talk about this being a “line of scrimmage conference“.

I guarantee the money was there and it was decided to either hold off or spend elsewhere.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
The Transfer Portal is basically free agency…
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That killed Major League Baseball for me, and it is quickly doing the same for College Football for me. It’s a sad state of affairs these days. I’ve already written off any, and all, merchandise purchases, and I’m very lackadaisical about any seemingly positive news about the Vols. I guess it’s just the end of another era in my life.
 
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Being good at retention will always be important. Recruit more judiciously in high school but still go after top talent and the ones you feel like will likely stay to be developed. They are still out there, some schools are retaining the ones they want to keep better than others. So while being more methodical and selective in high school recruiting you certainly don’t abandoned it or discount it as some on here like to say, that’s plain ridiculous. But by being more selective you leave better options for the portal. But again not everybody that is in the portal is a can’t miss proposition either, some folks act like it’s a good mine when it’s reality it a rock pit with all kinds off different material and it’s not all gold. Bottom line you got to do it all well, to say any of it isn’t important is foolishness. GBO
 
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It’s all about $$$$$.

Look at Texas A&M as the number one rated class for next year (six 5 star players), and had a top 10 portal class.
 
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#75
I kinda hope that is the case. I'm tired of hearing about high school kids creating bidding wars. I'm also tired of hearing about all the 5* busts that got a bag of money but can't perform (Nico). If we are haggling over money, it should be for guy proven at the college level.
 
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