CP's 5th yr option declined

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pimo1 said:
Dobbs was at 59.6% last season his worst completion percentage (59.5 his freshman year and 63.3 his soph for a career average of 60.5% .. which seems bad till you notice his main target for the year ran a 4.8.. just saying context is a mother.

College and NFL completion percentages actually translate fairly well for QB's in a pro style system. (Which for all intents and purposes we run)
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I'm all for a much faster receiving core but justifying Dobbs's poor passing by singling out how slow his "main target" was is laughable. How many times did Dobbs inaccurately throw a swing/screen pass to Hurd and Kamara (Luckily for Dobbs, both of those RBs are very good at pass catching)? How many times did we see Dobbs overthrow and underthrow a receiver on a go route?

Also, I had no idea that UT ran a pro-style offense...
 
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JohnD13 said:
Right decision by Vikings as much as I dislike them.

One your favorites? A one and done is one of your favorites? SMDH
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You're the second person who has said this. What the hell difference does it make? I can like whoever I please. I've been a Vol fan for 33 years and I have a lot of players that are favorites, and I could care less if you or anyone else has a problem with who I choose to like.
 
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utvols74 said:
Well, there were 6 KO for TDs in 2015 and CP had 2 of them. There were 12 PR for TDs in 2015. So.... BigFoot must have had a litter or something and his balls are dragging as low as mine do.
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Picking up his 5th would mean paying him like a top 20 WR which he isn't. If you could pay him like the 20th ranked KR then it might be worth it.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
You're the second person who has said this. What the hell difference does it make? I can like whoever I please. I've been a Vol fan for 33 years and I have a lot of players that are favorites, and I could care less if you or anyone else has a problem with who I choose to like.
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So you are saying CP is better than Willie Gault? Alvin Harper? Carl Pickens? How long have you been an aware VOLS fan is the real question.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
So you are saying CP is better than Willie Gault? Alvin Harper? Carl Pickens? How long have you been an aware VOLS fan is the real question.
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You should probably go back and read my posts. NOWHERE did I ever claim he was BETTER than Gault, Harper of Pickens. What I said was, he was one of MY favorites, and that he was electric on the football field. No one is denying that the players you mentioned are some of the greatest to ever play for UT. Start a fight with someone who actually deserves it, geez
 
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SteelerVol said:
Picking up his 5th would mean paying him like a top 20 WR which he isn't. If you could pay him like the 20th ranked KR then it might be worth it.
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Someone will pick him up and pay his market value which much be less than his 5th year option. Dude's got talent and will be on one of the 32 teams IMO.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
You should probably go back and read my posts. NOWHERE did I ever claim he was BETTER than Gault, Harper of Pickens. What I said was, he was one of MY favorites, and that he was electric on the football field. No one is denying that the players you mentioned are some of the greatest to ever play for UT. Start a fight with someone who actually deserves it, geez
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NO, what you said was that he was the most electric player to step foot on Neyland.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
NO, what you said was that he was the most electric player to step foot on Neyland.
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WRONG, here is my exact comment:

"And? Are you the "VFL" police? He wore the orange and white and was one of the most electric football players to ever step into Neyland stadium. Can I not have my own opinions of who are some of my favorite Vols of all time?"

How can you deny that anyways?

Patterson received an athletic scholarship to attend the University of Tennessee, where he played for the Tennessee Volunteers football team in 2012. He made an immediate impact with his athletic ability and offensive versatility. Primarily used as a wide receiver, he also excelled as a return specialist and all-purpose running back. He scored at least one touchdown by reception, rush, kick return and punt return, with 10 total touchdowns in 12 games.[9] In 12 starts, games, Patterson racked up an school-record 1,858 all-purpose yards (set by Reggie Cobb in 1987) to rank first in the SEC, tied for 18th in NCAA.[10]

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Per UTsports.com

Games/Starts: 12/12
In 12 starts, games, racked up school-record 1,858 all-purpose yards (154.8) to rank first in the SEC, tied for 18th in NCAA
Mark of 1,858 all-purpose yards broke record of Reggie Cobb (1,721), set in 1987
With 28.0 yards per kickoff return, ranks 19th in the NCAA and second in the SEC
Average of 28.0 yards per kickoff return, ranks a UT record for any Vol with at least 20 returns in a season
First player in NCAA to scored a touchdown four ways in a season since 2008 (Rec., Rush, Kick Return, Punt Return)
One of seven players in NCAA to score a touchdown three different ways in 2012
Led Vols with 10 touchdowns (five receiving, three rushing and one each on kickoff and punt return)
Set SEC record for single-season total kick return (kickoff+punt) average per return with 27.6
His 28.0 kickoff yards per return, rank as the second-most in a single-season in SEC history
Returned 24 kickoffs for 671 yards, third-most yards in a season in UT history
In 12 starts, had 46 catches for 778 receiving yards with five touchdowns
Rushed 25 times for 308 yards (12.3 per carry), three TDs
Became the second Vol to have a kickoff and punt return for touchdown in the same season, joining Bobby Gordon, who did it in 1957
Became fourth Vol to have a kickoff and punt return in a career, joining Gordon, Stanley Morgan and Willie Gault
Second Vol all-time to have touchdowns four ways in a career, joining Carl Pickens (1991-93), Patterson did it all in one season
Became fifth Vol with a return touchdown and a TD by rushing or receiving with a 98-yard kickoff return score and an 11-yard touchdown catch at #19 Miss State (10/13); last was Carl Pickens in 1990
Closed 2012 with 158 all-purpose yards with four catches for 88 yards including a 21-yard touchdown pass vs. Kentucky (11/24), also ran twice for 38 yards
Returned a punt for 81 yards, UT's first punt return for a TD since Mark Jones in 2003, at Vanderbilt (11/17); Finished with 247 all-purpose yards including 109 on punt returns, 86 on kickoff returns and 52 receiving
Scored third rushing touchdown on 5-yard rush to open scoring vs. Missouri (11/10); totaled 161 all-purpose yards and also completed a pass for 28 yards to Mychal Rivera
Career-best 275 all-purpose yards (2nd-most in UT history) including 219 receiving yards (4th-most in UT history) on career-high nine catches vs. Troy (11/3), also returned two kickoffs for 43 yards
52 total yards at #17 South Carolina (26 receiving, 21 rushing, 13 kickoff return yards)
Compiled 130 all-purpose yards vs. #1 Alabama with 111 on kickoff returns and 25 receiving
Scored on a 98-yard kickoff return for Vols' first conventional kickoff return for a TD since 2002, at #19 Miss State (10/13); overall had 195 all-purpose yards including 57 rushing and 25 receiving
Rushed for 46-yard touchdown at #5 Georgia (9/29) as part of 55 rushing yards, also had two catches for 31 yards
Two catches for 20 yards, a kickoff return for 26 yards and rushed twice for 12 yards vs. Akron (9/22)
Career-best eight catches for 75 yards including a 2-yard TD pass to give Vols their first TD in first quarter vs. Florida (9/15) since 2004
Gained 195 yards on all-purpose yards with 71 receiving yards, 18 rushing yards and 106 kickoff return yards vs. Georgia State (9/8)
Named to College Football Performance Award All-Purpose Yardage Honor Roll (Sept. 4)
Huge debut with UT recording 165 all-purpose yds (93 rec/72 rush). Scored two touchdowns on a 41-yard reception and a 67-yard rush vs. NC State (8/31)

And that guy that only played ONE year, was drafted in the 1st round of the 2013 draft. I guess no NFL team thought he was electric either?!:crazy:
How is that not ONE OF the most electric players to ever step into Neyland? You're just being a D-bag.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
WRONG, here is my exact comment:

"And? Are you the "VFL" police? He wore the orange and white and was one of the most electric football players to ever step into Neyland stadium. Can I not have my own opinions of who are some of my favorite Vols of all time?"

How can you deny that anyways?

Patterson received an athletic scholarship to attend the University of Tennessee, where he played for the Tennessee Volunteers football team in 2012. He made an immediate impact with his athletic ability and offensive versatility. Primarily used as a wide receiver, he also excelled as a return specialist and all-purpose running back. He scored at least one touchdown by reception, rush, kick return and punt return, with 10 total touchdowns in 12 games.[9] In 12 starts, games, Patterson racked up an school-record 1,858 all-purpose yards (set by Reggie Cobb in 1987) to rank first in the SEC, tied for 18th in NCAA.[10]

Want more?

Per UTsports.com

Games/Starts: 12/12
In 12 starts, games, racked up school-record 1,858 all-purpose yards (154.8) to rank first in the SEC, tied for 18th in NCAA
Mark of 1,858 all-purpose yards broke record of Reggie Cobb (1,721), set in 1987
With 28.0 yards per kickoff return, ranks 19th in the NCAA and second in the SEC
Average of 28.0 yards per kickoff return, ranks a UT record for any Vol with at least 20 returns in a season
First player in NCAA to scored a touchdown four ways in a season since 2008 (Rec., Rush, Kick Return, Punt Return)
One of seven players in NCAA to score a touchdown three different ways in 2012
Led Vols with 10 touchdowns (five receiving, three rushing and one each on kickoff and punt return)
Set SEC record for single-season total kick return (kickoff+punt) average per return with 27.6
His 28.0 kickoff yards per return, rank as the second-most in a single-season in SEC history
Returned 24 kickoffs for 671 yards, third-most yards in a season in UT history
In 12 starts, had 46 catches for 778 receiving yards with five touchdowns
Rushed 25 times for 308 yards (12.3 per carry), three TDs
Became the second Vol to have a kickoff and punt return for touchdown in the same season, joining Bobby Gordon, who did it in 1957
Became fourth Vol to have a kickoff and punt return in a career, joining Gordon, Stanley Morgan and Willie Gault
Second Vol all-time to have touchdowns four ways in a career, joining Carl Pickens (1991-93), Patterson did it all in one season
Became fifth Vol with a return touchdown and a TD by rushing or receiving with a 98-yard kickoff return score and an 11-yard touchdown catch at #19 Miss State (10/13); last was Carl Pickens in 1990
Closed 2012 with 158 all-purpose yards with four catches for 88 yards including a 21-yard touchdown pass vs. Kentucky (11/24), also ran twice for 38 yards
Returned a punt for 81 yards, UT's first punt return for a TD since Mark Jones in 2003, at Vanderbilt (11/17); Finished with 247 all-purpose yards including 109 on punt returns, 86 on kickoff returns and 52 receiving
Scored third rushing touchdown on 5-yard rush to open scoring vs. Missouri (11/10); totaled 161 all-purpose yards and also completed a pass for 28 yards to Mychal Rivera
Career-best 275 all-purpose yards (2nd-most in UT history) including 219 receiving yards (4th-most in UT history) on career-high nine catches vs. Troy (11/3), also returned two kickoffs for 43 yards
52 total yards at #17 South Carolina (26 receiving, 21 rushing, 13 kickoff return yards)
Compiled 130 all-purpose yards vs. #1 Alabama with 111 on kickoff returns and 25 receiving
Scored on a 98-yard kickoff return for Vols' first conventional kickoff return for a TD since 2002, at #19 Miss State (10/13); overall had 195 all-purpose yards including 57 rushing and 25 receiving
Rushed for 46-yard touchdown at #5 Georgia (9/29) as part of 55 rushing yards, also had two catches for 31 yards
Two catches for 20 yards, a kickoff return for 26 yards and rushed twice for 12 yards vs. Akron (9/22)
Career-best eight catches for 75 yards including a 2-yard TD pass to give Vols their first TD in first quarter vs. Florida (9/15) since 2004
Gained 195 yards on all-purpose yards with 71 receiving yards, 18 rushing yards and 106 kickoff return yards vs. Georgia State (9/8)
Named to College Football Performance Award All-Purpose Yardage Honor Roll (Sept. 4)
Huge debut with UT recording 165 all-purpose yds (93 rec/72 rush). Scored two touchdowns on a 41-yard reception and a 67-yard rush vs. NC State (8/31)

And that guy that only played ONE year, was drafted in the 1st round of the 2013 draft. I guess no NFL team thought he was electric either?!:crazy:
How is that not ONE OF the most electric players to ever step into Neyland? You're just being a D-bag.
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NFL teams draft based mostly on potential. If him being drafted in the first round is the only validation that you have, J. Russell,V. Young and R. Leaf say hi.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
NFL teams draft based mostly on potential. If him being drafted in the first round is the only validation that you have, J. Russell,V. Young and R. Leaf say hi.
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Only validation? Did you not read his stats? The guy set all kinds of records in this ONLY year at UT, and if he didn't set the record, he was in the top 10.

- Coaches All-SEC First Team All-Purpose Player
- Coaches All-SEC Second Team Return Specialist
- CBSSports.com All-SEC Team
- Associated Press All-SEC First Team All-Purpose Player

ONE SEASON man come on. Your traditional, old-school mindset is clouding your judgement. I get it, you can't disrespect the likes of Gault, Harper, Pickens, etc. But guess what, there are great players who are just as good who have played after the turn of the century. There is a guy named Evan Berry who set records last year. Guess you don't think he's any good either...
 
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CP was much fun to watch during his one season at UT. I would not object to the Titans signing him. Perhaps, more as a kick/punt returner. He has some interesting moves. Green-Beckham also struggles with reading defenses & route running accordingly.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
Glad to see Derrick Henry on team. If we can get Chance Womack to open some holes, perhaps we can win some games.
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I hope Warmack puts it all together with Conklin next to him, rather than the swinging gate that is Byron Bell.

Despite his struggles, Warmack was still the Titans' best lineman in 2015. Adding Jones and Conklin should really help the entire unit. I like the Tretola pick too, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's starting sooner rather than later.
 
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bamawriter said:
I hope Warmack puts it all together with Conklin next to him, rather than the swinging gate that is Byron Bell.

Despite his struggles, Warmack was still the Titans' best lineman in 2015. Adding Jones and Conklin should really help the entire unit. I like the Tretola pick too, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he's starting sooner rather than later.
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The rookie right tackle from Utah wasn't the answer...that much became clear.
 
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I remembe CP talking about starting his own fashion line.


He will be aight gnawmean?
 
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