Could Sal be Dooley's Clawson....

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If our defense doesn't improve, and play better assignment football, do you think that the risk that was taken to hire Sal may very well end up costing Dooley his job, kind of like what happened with Fulmer and Clawson??
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
If our defense doesn't improve, and play better assignment football, do you think that the risk that was taken to hire Sal may very well end up costing Dooley his job, kind of like what happened with Fulmer and Clawson??
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I don't think so. Dooley could not coach at LaTech, He could not coach with Wilcox, he now can not coach with Sal. Dooley is the common thing in all these issues.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I don't think so. Dooley could not coach at LaTech, He could not coach with Wilcox, he now can not coach with Sal. Dooley is the common thing in all these issues.
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I don't disagree with those points, but do you think that having Wilcox for a 3rd year, just like Chaney, would yield a better defense this year, and may have won us either UF or UGA??
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
I don't disagree with those points, but do you think that having Wilcox for a 3rd year, just like Chaney, would yield a better defense this year, and may have won us either UF or UGA??
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I think Wilcox is a good DC. While it's something we have not seen alot around this program of late, he has proven he can coach. I think Sal is a solid DC. He would get better with time here. I doubt either guy felt like their boss, could get it done. Something tells me Sal questions himself often if he made the right move. JMO

Only thing I don't care for with CJC is his not willing to hold Bray accountable for his poor play. There have been several times IMO, where Bray should have been benched to send the kid a message.
 
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Wilcox left...Dooley didn't have the choice to keep him. He was going to have to get a new DC anyway, and Sal was/is a good choice for the future.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I think Wilcox is a good DC. While it's something we have not seen alot around this program of late, he has proven he can coach. I think Sal is a solid DC. He would get better with time here. I doubt either guy felt like their boss, could get it done. Something tells me Sal questions himself often if he made the right move. JMO
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To be honest, Sal hadn't coordinated a game since '99, and that was for Alabama A&M, and his only other stint as a DC was at Illinois St. in 1994. To me, that's concerning, but the hype surrounding the hire overshadowed those points. We were all hoping his fire would translate on the field, but it's not all about fire as a DC.
 
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tomq_123 said:
Wilcox left...Dooley didn't have the choice to keep him. He was going to have to get a new DC anyway, and Sal was/is a good choice for the future.
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Yes, Wilcox did leave and I agree Dooley did not have a choice. I do think if it was not Washington and the "going home" thing, Wilcox was getting out of Dodge anyways.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Only thing I don't care for with CJC is his not willing to hold Bray accountable for his poor play. There have been several times IMO, where Bray should have been benched to send the kid a message.
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The difference between the #1 and #2 QB right now is staggering, and I would say that's the reason why.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
To be honest, Sal hadn't coordinated a game since '99, and that was for Alabama A&M, and his only other stint as a DC was at Illinois St. in 1994. To me, that's concerning, but the hype surrounding the hire overshadowed those points. We were all hoping his fire would translate on the field, but it's not all about fire as a DC.
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The fire you speak of is something I would like to see alot more on gameday. Alot of these kids need yanked off the field and ripped into when they keep screwing up. same screw ups time and time again you would think Sal would have a 55 gallon drum of Whoop yeah on the sideline. Maybe he has been told what he can and can't do on the sideline. The team lacks fire for sure.
 
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When Sunseri was announced as the new DC, folks were absolutely giddy. The stars and moon had aligned. Now they are already turning on him. Fer gawd's sake, give it a chance! It will work. It is not an overnight process.
 
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I don't know that Sal wouldn't be a great DC given some time. He is really an unknown at this point. I think he was a risky hire given the situation. Over time he may have been a better DC than Wilcox would have been. I do think UT is a better team with Wilcox here this year.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
The difference between the #1 and #2 QB right now is staggering, and I would say that's the reason why.
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I am sure it is.

Bray has the NFL arm, with a 10th grade mindset.

Worley does not have the arm, but I recall him throwing ALOT of short passes when he got to play last year.

Getting others involved, even if it is 6 yards at a time will win ball games. Downs, Young, Lane, Pig, Dallas, these guys were recruited kids by other schools. The defense can't double everyone. Why do we force it into CP & Hunter when they are double or triple covered? I am not a coach, but can see the guy doing jazzercise in the flat trying to get the QBs attention.
 
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1. Where in this reason were we so out of a game that you could bench bray?
2. Back to the OP's point. I think that after the clawson thing people around here might actually give Dooley an extra year for the Sal hire for 2 reasons. 1 is they've seen what a knee jerk reaction to "a bad hire leads to a fire"does and 2 they've seen the difference in a 3-4 implementation from year 1 to year 2 in other sec teams. Those things paired together gives Dooley at least 1 more year.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
If our defense doesn't improve, and play better assignment football, do you think that the risk that was taken to hire Sal may very well end up costing Dooley his job, kind of like what happened with Fulmer and Clawson??
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are you serious, Sal coached for the mighty Saban, he can't fail
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Yes, Wilcox did leave and I agree Dooley did not have a choice. I do think if it was not Washington and the "going home" thing, Wilcox was getting out of Dodge anyways.
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I'm sure the deafening amount of chatter from the press and fans about Dooley being on the hot seat had a lot to do with it. Honestly, I can't blame the guy for looking out for his own interests and going to what he believes is a more secure job. In today's economy who wouldn't.

On the flip side, I personally do think that Sal will be a good DC given the time to teach these kids (yes, they are still kids) how to play in his system. Also, once he recruits quality and depth for his system. We are close, but still missing some pieces. Hopefully he and Dooley will be given the time.
 
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EnglewoodVol said:
1. Where in this reason were we so out of a game that you could bench bray?
2. Back to the OP's point. I think that after the clawson thing people around here might actually give Dooley an extra year for the Sal hire for 2 reasons. 1 is they've seen what a knee jerk reaction to "a bad hire leads to a fire"does and 2 they've seen the difference in a 3-4 implementation from year 1 to year 2 in other sec teams. Those things paired together gives Dooley at least 1 more year.
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I could care less if we were out of the game or not. When a player keeps doing his own thing instead of doing the smart thing, I sit him down. Worley can play QB. He did it last year and won the game he was "supposed to win" vs MTSU. he hit 9 different recievers for almost 300 yards in that game. Any idea how many games Bray played last year and hit 9 different guys? (1) game. Worley spreads it around, and I think that is a big deal in team chemistry.
 
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The defense has struggled five games into a new scheme?!?! Maybe we should just shut down the football program. They will obviously never get it.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
If our defense doesn't improve, and play better assignment football, do you think that the risk that was taken to hire Sal may very well end up costing Dooley his job, kind of like what happened with Fulmer and Clawson??
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False assumption that Clawson got Fulmer fired and not the reverse. Clawson had very little to do with the fact that Fulmer hadn't recruited a real DT in years, had an OL barely one deep with SEC level talent, had no speed at WR, had all eggs in the Crompton basket, had allowed discipline to fall to nothing, etc, etc, etc.

Clawson was a victim of Fulmer's fall... not a significant cause of it.
 
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