Could Guarantano surprise us? (Merged)

kbear01

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Generally speaking the officials give receivers the benefit of the doubt on the line of scrimmage. They probably ruled he was behind it making downfield blocking legal.
Generally speaking the officials give receivers the benefit of the doubt on the line of scrimmage. They probably ruled he was behind it making downfield blocking legal.
We have a lineman 7 yards downfield.
 

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Because he ate it, way more than he threw it away. Also, I wouldn't say that his percentage was "So high". It was ok. But not great. Especially, considering that he threw alot of short, high percentage passes.
How were his yards per completion so high compared to everyone else if he threw short passes a bunch? I ask because his numbers compared to everyone else just doesn't match what you are saying. Do you have a different set of stats or do you not believe the ones that are out there?
 

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Well, we were 7th in the SEC in yds per completion. That's not awful, I guess. He completed 153 passes in 12 games. That's a mere 12 completions per game.
 

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If JG threw at or above the SEC average number of attempts in 2018, 346, he most likely would not have maintained his low interception numbers or his QB rating. Has nothing to do with 2019, he's got an entire off season to try and improve, but he ends 2019 with <250 attempts, then he'll most likely have similarly low passing TDs, and we'll have won a similar number of games, and just like in 2018 his QB rating and his low number of interceptions still won't have mattered as far as the success of the team is concerned.

In spite of JG's stats we were 121st in total offense, only ran 716 plays, 3906 total offensive yards, averaged 330 YPG. QB-play has more affect on the game than any other position on the field, and it's a good part of the reason that our offense was stagnant in most games during the 2018 season.
Well...we were 38th in YPA passing and 108th in YPC rushing. Do you think our lack of offensive production was JG's fault or the fault of the running game?
 

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There are two agendas here.

One is people who are fans of UT. There are people who think JG is a smaller and larger part of the offensive problems in this group. Their "agenda" is for UT to win.

The second are the cult like fans of JG who really only care about defending JG and denying his weaknesses. They'll "hate" on any other player, group of players, coach, or UT generally... to avoid laying any blame at all at the feet of their cult idol. You... are the model for this "agenda".
Lol there is literally no one in existence of the 2nd group. Delusional. He ain't Tom Brady.
 
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TDs, yards, and wins are the only stats that matter. JG is garbage in all of those categories.

He had a decent 3rd down completion percentage because of smart and conservative play calling by Tyson Helton.

JG was almost never forced to pass for more than 5 yards on 3rd down.

JG has never scored 3 TDs in a game and you idiots really think he is good?
(gross) TDs and yards do not account for efficiencies. That is why YPA and ratios matter. JG barely passes, so total starts do him an injustice. We were 111th in attempts last year iirc.
 
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Guarantano should be a bright spot for the Vol offense this year, provided the Oline can keep him upright and give him a smidge of time to go through his progressions
 

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Smdh. Do you even see what you're posting? Thanks for proving my point for me. Better qbr than any season of Dobbs, except as a senior. Just as I posted.

Take a lap, junior.
Numbers do not lie. But, they also do not show everything. Dobbs had the legs to make something out of nothing, and the INTELLIGENCE to know when to exploit his abilities. Many times resulting in BIG PLAYS, by extending plays, or gaining big chunks, on the ground. At the very worst, he rarely had negative plays, and MOVED THE CHAINS. Here is the sad part.........JG has the very same tools, but rarely uses them, when necessary. Maybe he's gun-shy? I will not pretend to know. But, pulling it down, and getting 5 yds, is better than losing 12, any day of the week. Plus, if you are going to get hit, so often, get hit on your own terms. Extend drives. Rest the D. Fatigue the opponent. Tired defenses make mistakes. I would love to see a new JG, this coming season.
 
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Lol there is literally no one in existence of the 2nd group. Delusional. He ain't Tom Brady.
Yeah. Read k-town king's comments going back since he joined the board. There are others... but he's the worst. I haven't really noticed your posts. But typical of that second group are those who will say "he's not perfect" then blame everything on someone else and deny any specific criticism.
 

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Only a moron would compare JG to Dobbs.

Our offensive line gave up a boat load of sacks with Worley at QB. As soon as Dobbs came in the O-line rarely gave up sacks and the entire offense got better. JG will never be half the player that Dobbs was.
I never said he would be. Only thing I said was dobbs got a lot better after his sophomore year. Which is a fact and I said I think JG will as well
 

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Mega Bump

Thought it was interesting the takes from everyone earlier this year. Specifically, look at some of Steven5198 and BreatheUT posts. Both of those posters really nailed it, I think. What's fascinating to me is a lot of people listen to a former QB of ours on the local radio and take his word for gospel on the QB play. Well, he has been excessively wrong in his thoughts and these two posters have been quite right! I would be interested to know their backgrounds, just for the sake of discussion. And, if you defended JG I would love to hear your thoughts as well. Not bashing the kid, just looking back and stumbled upon this and thought it was relevant to our year long struggle to find a QB that can help us win and win decisively.

Edit: start about post #142 for reference
 
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I know we keep saying this, but the natural expectation is for the veteran returning OL to be improved. Then theres the addition of Morris, potentially Wright as well. The RBs should be improved.
Then you add Jim Chaney and Tee Martin. Now we've heard Jennings is coming back.
I think the defense takes a step in the new system as well and improves a little.
This really is beginning to sound like a recipe for a very successful season for JG, even surprising some of us at VN. Does anyone else see a potential big jump for JG, or is what we've seen all there is?
No........just no.
 

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Just for clarification for those opening this thread. It has been BUMPED. It's an old therad, but shows that some of our posters absolutely nailed JG's shortcomings and what the year has played out like.
wow, that's great. I hope they are all happy and giving themselves a pat on the back. Me, I'm rooting for whatever Vol is playing....
 
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wow, that's great. I hope they are all happy and giving themselves a pat on the back. Me, I'm rooting for whatever Vol is playing....
A-friggin-men... Personally, I don't care whether Jim from Morristown guessed right or not. Just win baby.
 

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