Coaching Search Firm

#76
#76
"Over the last decade, Neinas has helped schools hire some of the biggest coaching names in college football: Mack Brown at defending national champion Texas; Bob Stoops at Oklahoma; Tyrone Willingham at Notre Dame, then Washington; Les Miles at Oklahoma State, then LSU; Mark Richt at Georgia, and Dennis Franchione at Texas A&M."


I guess I missed that.
 
#77
#77
Yes. The way I understand it, the reason for hiring a firm is because they are allowed to contact coaches at these other schools during the season and without permission when were not. They do not work under NCAA rules because they are an outside company. They really don't find the coaches because you already know who you want to go after usually. They do the contacting for you however because they don't need permission and basically work as the middle man.

You are indeed correct...
 
#79
#79
I have some information you should know about the coaches in the WAC and MWC, before you go by the success of the coaches for this season.

Gary Patterson- 16 starting upperclassmen
Chris Peterson- 16 starting upperclassmen
Utah Head Coach (who cares really??)- 16 upperclassmen

The real question is why don't freshmen or RS freshman play in these programs, because to me in the SEC you need playmakers instantly, which most of the teams have. Not coaches who can't recruit but can develop mediocre talent.

By the way yes I know Kyle Whittingham
 
#81
#81
So where did you hear we actually hired this firm? If this is the case, does it mean either a) the Neinas hire occurred within the last couple hours, b) the AD is concurrently conducting its own search, or c) most likely, the rumors of us offering to Gruden are complete BS.


heres what he said

"Q: Why are you using a search firm for the new head coach? (Note: UT will use Neinas Sports Services out of Boulder, Colorado.)
A: It’s extremely important I think to have the confidentiality of third-party contact. Right now if I were picking up the phone calling coaches around the country, that’s going to become some sort of public record at some point, right? (The firm) can maybe find a guy that you say, ‘Hey, you know what? Let’s just take a stab in the dark and see if Bryan Mullen is interested in being the head coach at the University of Tennessee.’ They can make that call without the embarrassment to the university or to the individual. And then they also work on some background search for you and find out exactly what they’re getting paid and exactly what their buyout is.”



the link UT's AD discusses hiring process for new coach | www.dnj.com | The Daily News Journal
 
#82
#82
Unless they get one of the big names, they should pay only a modest salary (less than what Fulmer made). If the coach gets good results they can negotiate the salary later.
 
#85
#85
I have some information you should know about the coaches in the WAC and MWC, before you go by the success of the coaches for this season.

Gary Patterson- 16 starting upperclassmen
Chris Peterson- 16 starting upperclassmen
Utah Head Coach (who cares really??)- 16 upperclassmen

The real question is why don't freshmen or RS freshman play in these programs, because to me in the SEC you need playmakers instantly, which most of the teams have. Not coaches who can't recruit but can develop mediocre talent.

By the way yes I know Kyle Whittingham

Very few LaDanian Tomlinsens and Brian Urlachers go through the MWC. None of those coaches are afraid to use freshman, its just they aren't getting the 5* studs there on a regular basis.

Having lived in Utah for 7 years now, its a desert, only nice thing about it is skiing, and alot of the schools around here have rules against doing that.

Also, the academics are decent, but they aren't world class. Most of the games are televised on The Mountain (except TCU vs Utah was nixed for women's volleyball, go figure) which isn't nationally televised. Also, it isn't a BCS conference, so winning it doesn't gaurantee a good bowl at season's end. Urban Meyer's recruiting classes weren't great @ Utah, that doesn't mean he isn't a great recruiter, there is just a lot going against MWC and WAC schools. (Location, Prestige, Television Coverage)
 
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#86
#86
"Over the last decade, Neinas has helped schools hire some of the biggest coaching names in college football: Mack Brown at defending national champion Texas; Bob Stoops at Oklahoma; Tyrone Willingham at Notre Dame, then Washington; Les Miles at Oklahoma State, then LSU; Mark Richt at Georgia, and Dennis Franchione at Texas A&M."


I guess I missed that.

Maybe you should've looked a little more closely at the rest of the article. It mentions that the firm handled 6 coaching searches "this year" alone and then inferes that Alabama was one of them. Well Saban was hired a couple of years ago, so my guess is the pasted article is from the year after Vince Young beat Matt Leinert...
 
#87
#87
Mike Hamilton in his interview said the search firm was hired because they can make Phone Calls to college coaches while the University cannot. So the frim can gauge each candidates interest also which can save Tennessee from being humiliated of several candidates turning us down once season is over and Hamilton can talk to each Coach in person.
 
#90
#90
Yes everyone knew they hired the firm but there is still some posters saying the longer that season drags out it means this or that. They obviously did not know the reasons for the firm.
 
#94
#94
As far as using a search firm, I've always believed that if two businessmen agree all the time then one of them is useless. Its always good to have another opinion.
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#95
#95
As far as using a search firm, I've always believed that if two businessmen agree all the time then one of them is useless. Its always good to have another opinion.
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unless it is Freak's opinion...then one is all you need
 
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