Coaching for the Long Term

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I've heard a lot of folks talk about the lack of energy/emotion from the team on Saturday against WV. Philosophically, I believe Pruitt is changing the way players approach a game. He doesn't want it to be based on getting hyped up and expending a lot of emotional energy. While sometimes "working your players up into a frenzy" before a game can potentially get you a short-term win (meaning that day), it can have devastating consequences over time. This is what I believe happened under Butch. All he knew to do was recruit a certain level of talent and then work them up with slogans and speeches. This, at times, made us look good at competing with the big boys (like his second year when we lost 4 games by a total of 17 points). However, this emotional rollercoaster has serious consequences to a players psyche, especially when you barely lose. Over time, players can't get as hyped up, because they are emotionally spent and know that they might lose. The might, over time, changes to probably, and then to most likely. What this eventually leaves you with is a bunch of formerly talented players who haven't been coached up at the "business" of football, but rather, players who have no emotional energy left. When this happens, players quit, players don't play with passion, players are behind by a step, and it looks like the difference in talent and product is extreme. However, in actuality, the difference is minimal. I liked that Pruitt didn't have them worked up emotionally. If this continues, you might actually see a win this season that no one expected. And when you can win without "getting hyped up", then players begin to believe in their coaches and themselves, which translates into more wins in the future. I hope Pruitt continues to keep coaching for the long term versus listening to impatient Vol fans. Go Big Orange!!
 
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InstrumentalVol said:
There are people in these forums who legitimately think we're going to lose to both ETSU & UTEP. No one, especially Pruitt, is listening to them. We will be fine.
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If we lose to ETSU and UTEP, I'll
have my doubts that Pruitt is the answer for UT, so will the rest of the country.
 
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vol4him said:
I've heard a lot of folks talk about the lack of energy/emotion from the team on Saturday against WV. Philosophically, I believe Pruitt is changing the way players approach a game. He doesn't want it to be based on getting hyped up and expending a lot of emotional energy. While sometimes "working your players up into a frenzy" before a game can potentially get you a short-term win (meaning that day), it can have devastating consequences over time. This is what I believe happened under Butch. All he knew to do was recruit a certain level of talent and then work them up with slogans and speeches. This, at times, made us look good at competing with the big boys (like his second year when we lost 4 games by a total of 17 points). However, this emotional rollercoaster has serious consequences to a players psyche, especially when you barely lose. Over time, players can't get as hyped up, because they are emotionally spent and know that they might lose. The might, over time, changes to probably, and then to most likely. What this eventually leaves you with is a bunch of formerly talented players who haven't been coached up at the "business" of football, but rather, players who have no emotional energy left. When this happens, players quit, players don't play with passion, players are behind by a step, and it looks like the difference in talent and product is extreme. However, in actuality, the difference is minimal. I liked that Pruitt didn't have them worked up emotionally. If this continues, you might actually see a win this season that no one expected. And when you can win without "getting hyped up", then players begin to believe in their coaches and themselves, which translates into more wins in the future. I hope Pruitt continues to keep coaching for the long term versus listening to impatient Vol fans. Go Big Orange!!
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Man!! Didn't think I would ever get through this "Philosophical" explanation on how to lose and make it work toward wins in the future. Hope it works. Bye the way, a day or two ago I mentioned that I thought the team quit following the last play of the Fla. game. Seems to support what you are saying.
 
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vol4him said:
I've heard a lot of folks talk about the lack of energy/emotion from the team on Saturday against WV. Philosophically, I believe Pruitt is changing the way players approach a game. He doesn't want it to be based on getting hyped up and expending a lot of emotional energy. While sometimes "working your players up into a frenzy" before a game can potentially get you a short-term win (meaning that day), it can have devastating consequences over time. This is what I believe happened under Butch. All he knew to do was recruit a certain level of talent and then work them up with slogans and speeches. This, at times, made us look good at competing with the big boys (like his second year when we lost 4 games by a total of 17 points). However, this emotional rollercoaster has serious consequences to a players psyche, especially when you barely lose. Over time, players can't get as hyped up, because they are emotionally spent and know that they might lose. The might, over time, changes to probably, and then to most likely. What this eventually leaves you with is a bunch of formerly talented players who haven't been coached up at the "business" of football, but rather, players who have no emotional energy left. When this happens, players quit, players don't play with passion, players are behind by a step, and it looks like the difference in talent and product is extreme. However, in actuality, the difference is minimal. I liked that Pruitt didn't have them worked up emotionally. If this continues, you might actually see a win this season that no one expected. And when you can win without "getting hyped up", then players begin to believe in their coaches and themselves, which translates into more wins in the future. I hope Pruitt continues to keep coaching for the long term versus listening to impatient Vol fans. Go Big Orange!!
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If you're STILLl a Vol fan, there's no such thing as being an impatient Vol fan.

We've been thru "WGWTA" from Kiffin, to waiting for bamboo to grow (never did), to 5 star hearts. Minimum I want to see out of this team is like Barnes' first couple teams...want to see improvement as season goes along, w/ effort, passion and not beating ourselves. If we can do this, we'll win 5-6 games, and more easily enjoy the progress. It's when we get our teeth kicked in and pull a "no-show" that will get everyone fired up.
 
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I could see Butch losing to ETSU since he struggled so much with UMass and the other midmajors last year.

Pruitt's team will win by about 50 though.
I could be wrong though. I could also see something like 56-13 or something.
 
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GetEmVols said:
I could see Butch losing to ETSU since he struggled so much with UMass and the other midmajors last year.

Pruitt's team will win by about 50 though.
I could be wrong though. I could also see something like 56-13 or something.
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I am confused.
 
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We will line up and move them off the LOS, like the old days. 5 ypc. Then proceed to throw to wide open receivers when the bring the safety down. Blitzkrieg on defense. Easy money.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
We will line up and move them off the LOS, like the old days. 5 ypc. Then proceed to throw to wide open receivers when the bring the safety down. Blitzkrieg on defense. Easy money.
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Thank goodness we have the talent to push around DII players.
 
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While the OP is probably right about what over-emotionalism can do to a team, I disagree that this was Butch's approach. He used to preach against emotion in his teams. That made me mad. God, it seemed the team needed some emotion on their side instead of standing around like a stringer of fish waiting to get cleaned. I want them to be like catfish - a fish that can roll around your boat for five hours of fishing, an hour in the trunk and one on the backporch, and STILL manage to spear you when you get the pliers out. That's what I want. Some mean ass fish that draw blood when you think they're beat.
 
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vol4him said:
I've heard a lot of folks talk about the lack of energy/emotion from the team on Saturday against WV. Philosophically, I believe Pruitt is changing the way players approach a game. He doesn't want it to be based on getting hyped up and expending a lot of emotional energy. While sometimes "working your players up into a frenzy" before a game can potentially get you a short-term win (meaning that day), it can have devastating consequences over time. This is what I believe happened under Butch. All he knew to do was recruit a certain level of talent and then work them up with slogans and speeches. This, at times, made us look good at competing with the big boys (like his second year when we lost 4 games by a total of 17 points). However, this emotional rollercoaster has serious consequences to a players psyche, especially when you barely lose. Over time, players can't get as hyped up, because they are emotionally spent and know that they might lose. The might, over time, changes to probably, and then to most likely. What this eventually leaves you with is a bunch of formerly talented players who haven't been coached up at the "business" of football, but rather, players who have no emotional energy left. When this happens, players quit, players don't play with passion, players are behind by a step, and it looks like the difference in talent and product is extreme. However, in actuality, the difference is minimal. I liked that Pruitt didn't have them worked up emotionally. If this continues, you might actually see a win this season that no one expected. And when you can win without "getting hyped up", then players begin to believe in their coaches and themselves, which translates into more wins in the future. I hope Pruitt continues to keep coaching for the long term versus listening to impatient Vol fans. Go Big Orange!!
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Come on now...It worked for FSU!
 
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What ever Pruitt is doing is obviously wrong. We want to win, or at least play competitively.
He will have to turn things around and FAST!.
 
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hope ya'll are in for a long ride...no SEC championships overnight...this will take a few years...same story, different coach, but I'd rather have Coach Pruitt over any of the three previous coaches...;)

GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Jack Burton said:
Pruitt is teaching NFL level defensive philosophies. It’s a lot to learn and it makes the defense play slower than usual because it’s still early. Maybe they appear more subdued because of this. At least this is the truth/lie I tell myself at this point.
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You are correct, it's alot different playing freshman and a different system then they're used to, when the system requires a mental aspect. It's not just your typical base, blitz system, Bud Foster is a good example he played some young guys in last nights game and they did good but they were recruited for that system and Fosters ran the same system for years and has his guys
 
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Jack Burton said:
Pruitt is teaching NFL level defensive philosophies. It’s a lot to learn and it makes the defense play slower than usual because it’s still early. Maybe they appear more subdued because of this. At least this is the truth/lie I tell myself at this point.
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You are correct, it's alot different playing freshman and a different system then they're used to, when the system requires a mental aspect. It's not just your typical base, blitz system, Bud Foster is a good example he played some young guys in last nights game and they did good but they were recruited for that system and Fosters ran the same system for years and has his guys
RollerVol said:
hope ya'll are in for a long ride...no SEC championships overnight...this will take a few years...same story, different coach, but I'd rather have Coach Pruitt over any of the three previous coaches...;)

GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree
 
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Some people will disagree but the facts don't change.

In the NFL their only job is to work hard and learn how to play their position correctly and they work at that year round.

In the NFL it still takes 2 to 3 years minimum to make the solid change from a 4-3 to a good running 3-4 D.

The NFL also has a huge advantage on changing their rosters because they have the draft to pick guys that fit their 3-4 roster spots, they can make player or draft trades to get the right guys and they can buy the right players in free agency.

In college you have to beg and plead with the right high school kids to accept a scholly and come play at your school so turning the roster over takes longer.

Many here say our players are too slow and some may be but also remember that our coaches and schemes are brand new so our players hesitate a second or 2 in order to think about what they're supposed to be doing and that second or 2 puts them a step or 2 behind the O players.

After our players keep working and learning they won't think, they'll know instantly what to do and they're react instantly and play much faster because it will all come naturally.

The 3-4 D is actually the best D in football and that's why so many top NFL teams play that D just like nick saTan and Bama do.

There's so many more things you can do in a 3-4 D but it does take lots longer to learn to the point that a player instantly knows and plays much faster.

I like that we're switching to the 3-4 D but I also know it's going to take lots of time and many more much better players before we get to the point of playing like Bama does.

It's going to be painful to watch for awhile but in the long term our D will become feared to have to play against.

Good days are coming but just not as fast as I want or that all Tennessee fans want.

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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photovol said:
If we lose to ETSU and UTEP, I'll
have my doubts that Pruitt is the answer for UT, so will the rest of the country.
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Relax....Saban lost to Louisiana Monroe his first season.i think everything sort of turned out for his team after all. A good coach gets it done even after some early speed bumps.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Relax....Saban lost to Louisiana Monroe his first season.i think everything sort of turned out for his team after all. A good coach gets it done even after some early speed bumps.
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Thanks, I was worried, but not anymore.


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