Coach Jones Report Card

#52
#52
81Orange said:
OP rather then make up a bogus score card with an inaccurate assessment, just say you don't like the guy.
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Because it isn't true. Jones still has an opportunity to be elite. However, unless changes are made it won't happen. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is a definition of insanity.
 
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#54
#54
Team 120 is worse than team 119....in my opinion....Vols appear to be going the wrong way:w00t:
 
#55
#55
I find it funny you gave him a D- for game planning but completely omitted half time adjustments. I guess you didn't want to give him anything higher than a D for anything that really mattered (e.g., Cliches and gimmicks).
 
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#58
#58
volmark said:
Is it ok if i still like butch but complain about how hard-headed he & oc seems to be when the gameplan isnt working but we keep on w the same? When u are at your job and something didnt work right do you just try the same thing again? - weve seen some big turnarounds after half but ithink most of that is players making plays. Not trying some different basic things to mix it up is frustrating and i dont have to be a head coach to see or know the difference..so how about a screen or draw here and there? Last year the offense had more playfakes which kept things off balance. When was the last time we saw dobbs forward handoff pass out of the gun? Or a reverse yeah high risk/reward but if u struggling anyways try somethin!
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Oh yeah, man, it's absolutely ok. I mean, we ALL look at this offense and say, wow, something's just off. Beyond Josh's inaccuracy throwing the ball, and beyond the OL frequently doing its impression of a colander, there's something just not working there.

But it's really hard for us to put our fingers on it, because we don't see all the pieces and parts. We don't see DeBord select a play (or why he picked that one). We don't see that play communicated down to the sideline and out to the team, including maybe a garbled message from time to time. We don't see what happens as the two teams line up and the OC perhaps calls in a change to the play based on the defensive formation. We don't know which player(s) lined up wrong because they actually have no idea what that play call means they're supposed to do (this happens a lot more often than we'd like to believe).

Then, once the ball is snapped, we don't know how crisply (or not) each player executes his responsibilities, because back to the first point, we don't know what the called play was. We don't know what Josh's read is in a read-option, or what his progression is supposed to be with receivers. All we can judge is based on what he actually DOES.

We also don't know what play the defense are supposed to be running, or how their "vote" is impacting our intended play. There are 22 players out on the field doing stuff, and in any given play maybe a third of them are doing the wrong thing, or doing the right thing in the wrong place, or doing the right thing too slowly, "taking a play off," and so on. Football is known as a game of inches. So if everyone on the field is a few inches away from where they were supposed to be, are they really running the play that was designed? Or is this something different, which may or may not work?

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Point is, in every single play there is such an astounding amount of information we DON'T know, that we really are just amateurs on the outside looking in, vaguely.

Many of us have a lifetime of following football, and we pride ourselves on having learned a great deal. But none of us know the Vols playbook, much less the playbooks of the other teams. We don't know--ever, we never know--what was "supposed" to happen versus what "did" happen.

All we know is, did it work? Did we get 6 yards and a first down? Or not?

So our knowledge is only appropriate to judge "report card style" at the level of Ws and Ls.

*shrug* I sit around these forums talking in-depth football just like anyone else....it's fun, and hurts nothing.

I simply recognize our limitations enough to know that I don't have the information needed to write any sort of report card on any specific player or coach.

So I just support the team, enjoy the Ws, and kick rocks around after the Ls.

But man, you are free to do anything you like (within the law). Complain away! :hi:
 
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#61
#61
utvolpj said:
You would need a tire pressure IQ to take everything a coach says literally. Using Bsia is equivalent to calling UF the Gators
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No one with a brain took it seriously, it was obvious it was bull**** from the start. It's like when a politician makes a promise that they could never fulfill, and they never do, and people give them **** about it until the end of time.

Why make the promise when you know you're just going to renege on it? Of course Butch has made plenty of promises that he's never come good on.
 
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