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#76
#76
He's right about that. Did a great job flipping a number of 2-3* guys. Just about what you'd expect from Cincinnati on NSD....not a storied program in the SEC, like Tennessee. OleMiss is pulling in a Top 10 class, even after going 6-6 regular season. What a leap. Kiffin took over after a bad situation, too and pulled in a Top 10 class.

They got a few gems to stay on board, who were close to committing before Dooley got fired, but beyond that, this staff hasn't done anything to move this program forward in the ultra-competitive SEC.

Auburn had their worst season in a long, long time, fired their coach and brought in a guy who has only yr HC'ing experience.....hired a MAJOR recruiter, in Garner (thought we had the best staff in America?)...and we get dusted by them, on the recruiting front.

Let me help you out here dude. If you believe that recruiting at Auburn is all above board, you need to come out from under the rock. We're never going to win recruits when we go up against Ole Miss, Auburn, Alabama and a few others in the SEC unless we start doing the same things they do. I, for one, would like to see some shady stuff going on at UT if we can get the right guys on board. That's just me though. I really doubt Butch will go down to that level though. :salute::salute:
 
#77
#77
Let me help you out here dude. If you believe that recruiting at Auburn is all above board, you need to come out from under the rock. We're never going to win recruits when we go up against Ole Miss, Auburn, Alabama and a few others in the SEC unless we start doing the same things they do. I, for one, would like to see some shady stuff going on at UT if we can get the right guys on board. That's just me though. I really doubt Butch will go down to that level though. :salute::salute:

We aren't Ole Miss. We don't need to cheat. We had plenty of that with Kiffin and barely dodged being slammed hard. Winning will get us most anything we want.
 
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#80
#80
I am disappointed that UT did not land some of the big fish CBJ was chasing. I understand that there are mitigating circumstances but it is disappointing nonetheless. However, I think it is important to give CBJ the opportunity for a full recruiting cycle and to demonstrate his coaching abilities (aside - I think coaching ability is the most important characteristic for a staff. Great recruiting will not be sustained if a team shows it can't meet expectations, while great coaching helps to exceed expectations).

One thing I don't understand on VolNation though is why an expression of disappointment is taken so hard by so many on here. Do you expect us to regard every outcome as favourable even if our analysis says it's not? All the so called "Negavols" are saying is that they hoped for more and that they are concerned that UT continues to lose ground in recruiting to other members of a hypercompetitive conference. Reacting like members of the KGB against those who dare to challenge the regime is no more reasonable than the opinions that infuriate you so much.

JMO

WebbCobb, I think the problem is not expressing disappointment, but maybe the manner in which it is expressed. Some people go overboard and express themselves in less than an adult manner. This is not nearly as bad as it could have been. I was disappointed that Bell went to OSU. However, I don't blame the current staff. I think they did a good job. I am happy about the recruits we got, but disappointed about the big ones we missed. Would like to have gotten one of the defensive studs and a stud RB. All in all, I believe we have some really good players (Carr, Dobbs, Miller,North) However, I think Jones is going to be a great coach, time will tell though. UT football has been hard to watch under Dooley. Hoping for better days ahead.
 
#81
#81
We need some speed and some HEART . Win a couple games that we have not been winning ( ga,sc,..) and it will take hold . The bleeding can't go on much longer
 
#82
#82
The tantrum people over Ole Miss recruiting and Auburn recruiting sicken me. Really. I was BEYOND pissed when the text rolled in that Bell had signed with OSU. That being said, Butch Jones had pulled quite an impressive feat as it is.

Ole Miss: Hugh Freeze is going to make Ole Miss a contender in the West again. He had enough bright spots in his 6-6 first season to go out and relentlessly sell his school, and in case you haven't been, Ole Miss has a lot to sell on their campus not directly football related.

Auburn: National Champions in the past 5 years, which btw, CAN NOT BE OVERPLAYED!!! Why? Cause anyone who followed football these past 5 years knows it was GUS who engineered their run, who coached Cam Newton, the one and done superstar that remains fresh in everyone's mind's with TV commercials and the like, and GUS is only one or two years removed from the Auburn program. Gus' absence did one thing in recruit's minds: let them know Gus was the reason for all off Chizik's success.

Now to Tennessee: 5 years, 4 coaches, NCAA sanctions, and 2 BACK-TO-BACK losing seasons. And we expect the new coach to land the number 4 player IN THE NATION in 30 days?!? Or repair the destroyed relationship of the 5-star recruit and beat out two coaches with back-to-back national championship resumes? Sickening.

The good news? Here you go: Butch Jones has in 30 days done one thing with this class: solidified UT's presence again in the mind of the recruit. If anything, the Bell recruitment has struck a chord with the legacy recruits after seeing the backlash and pain that followed Bell's Debacle. Like the fact's said, he gained 12 NEW recruits in those 30 days, and 8 of those were commits elsewhere. And they weren't 2* players, they were 3 and 4* players.

Goals needed on this season? Got those, too: Make the Oregon game interesting. You don't need to win, and you really don't HAVE to have it be close, but a close loss or a victory over a down-trending Oregon team will put a statement on everything Butch is trying to sell next year.
Second: Win the easy games, and put a stamp on Vandy and Auburn. Those are the two most critical games this year, bar none. Not Florida. Not Alabama. We. Aren't. There. Yet. Deal with it. Vandy and Auburn are our two biggest challenges when battling for recruit's this year, and because of this Butch needs to put a solid win over both THIS YEAR. A win over Auburn negates ALL of Auburn's advantages over us, and a BIG win over Vandy puts a lot of assurance back into in-state recruits over where the real power lies in Tennessee.

Well the goals were met, but what else does Butch have to sell? The top facilities IN THE COUNTRY, as of this year, the SEC, NFL potential that is STILL here, along with our rich history and tradition, all amplified by a new attitude and an up-trend season.

Wow there are a few of us left!!! Great post!!!:good!:
 
#83
#83
You mean never the one to pump the sunshine in. :girl1: :3cheers:

Sorry....not going to be artificial like some of you boot lickers. When there is reason to applaud the program, HC or staff, I'm going to be one of the first to do so. But when they make decisions that put this program and team into a deeper hole, I'm going to call it like I see it.

Sorry I'll take the Vol, you have the Nuttin wrapped up!!!!
 
#84
#84
"Hugh Freeze will make Ole Miss a contender in the west AGAIN". There was no first.
 
#85
#85
the SEC west is going to be a meat grinder of epic proportions(sp). let them kill each other. fine by me..
 
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