Coach Change Chaos!

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There are 130 Teams in Division 1 FBS Football. — There have been 60 (SIXTY!) Coaching changes since December 2019 until December 2021. — Nearly HALF of all Division 1 FBS Football! — Some might not seem to matter, but some seem to matter A LOT! It’s even worse when you put it on paper! So, here we go:

Akron; Appalachian St ; Arizona; Arkansas; Arkansas St; Auburn; Baylor; Boise St; Boston College; Colorado; Colorado St; Duke; Florida; Florida St; FAU; FIU; UCF; USF; Fresno St; GA Southern; Hawaii; Illinois, Louisiana; LSU; LA Tech, LA-Monroe; Marshall; Memphis; Michigan St; Missouri; Ole Miss; Mississippi St; Southern Miss; New Mexico; New Mexico St; Notre Dame; Oklahoma; ODU; Rutgers; San Diego St; South Alabama; USC; UNLV; South Carolina; SMU; Temple; Tennessee; Texas; TCU; Texas Tech; UTSA; Troy; UConn; UMass; Utah St; UVA; Virginia Tech; Vanderbilt; Washington; Washington St

Whether they were fired, went to another school - or just quit!

There is NO LOYALTY in college football anymore!
 
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According to CBS Sports Network's ticker Bronco Mendenhall is resigning after UVA's bowl game, other outlets are reporting it was his decision and UVA asked him to stay.
 
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I would say that the problem is there are not enough Sabans out there. Let’s be honest, coaches like Saban, Day, and Swinney do not have magic wands. There are probably 25-30 schools that possess the resources where any coach who is willing to study, learn, and relentlessly work like Saban could build a true championship contender. Obviously, the more programs that find coaches who are willing to do this, the less likely any one of them has a dynasty but you will find more parity at the top where it’s not just 4-5 programs that are able to lay hands on the trophy. It amazes me how many very good coaches have underperformed at places where there is really no excuse. I think too many of them see the upper echelon job with the massive buyout as a destination rather than a launching pad.
 
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There are 130 Teams in Division 1 FBS Football. — There have been 60 (SIXTY!) Coaching changes since December 2019 until December 2021. — Nearly HALF of all Division 1 FBS Football! — Some might not seem to matter, but some seem to matter A LOT! It’s even worse when you put it on paper! So, here we go:

Akron; Appalachian St ; Arizona; Arkansas; Arkansas St; Auburn; Baylor; Boise St; Boston College; Colorado; Colorado St; Duke; Florida; Florida St; FAU; FIU; UCF; USF; Fresno St; GA Southern; Hawaii; Illinois, Louisiana; LSU; LA Tech, LA-Monroe; Marshall; Memphis; Michigan St; Missouri; Ole Miss; Mississippi St; Southern Miss; New Mexico; New Mexico St; Notre Dame; Oklahoma; ODU; Rutgers; San Diego St; South Alabama; USC; UNLV; South Carolina; SMU; Temple; Tennessee; Texas; TCU; Texas Tech; UTSA; Troy; UConn; UMass; Utah St; UVA; Virginia Tech; Vanderbilt; Washington; Washington St

Whether they were fired, went to another school - or just quit!

There is NO LOYALTY in college football anymore!
What?
 
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There are 130 Teams in Division 1 FBS Football. — There have been 60 (SIXTY!) Coaching changes since December 2019 until December 2021. — Nearly HALF of all Division 1 FBS Football! — Some might not seem to matter, but some seem to matter A LOT! It’s even worse when you put it on paper! So, here we go:

Akron; Appalachian St ; Arizona; Arkansas; Arkansas St; Auburn; Baylor; Boise St; Boston College; Colorado; Colorado St; Duke; Florida; Florida St; FAU; FIU; UCF; USF; Fresno St; GA Southern; Hawaii; Illinois, Louisiana; LSU; LA Tech, LA-Monroe; Marshall; Memphis; Michigan St; Missouri; Ole Miss; Mississippi St; Southern Miss; New Mexico; New Mexico St; Notre Dame; Oklahoma; ODU; Rutgers; San Diego St; South Alabama; USC; UNLV; South Carolina; SMU; Temple; Tennessee; Texas; TCU; Texas Tech; UTSA; Troy; UConn; UMass; Utah St; UVA; Virginia Tech; Vanderbilt; Washington; Washington St

Whether they were fired, went to another school - or just quit!

There is NO LOYALTY in college football anymore!
Americans change jobs about every 4 years on average.

I know, I know..... some of y'all are going to say "I worked for XX years at my job." Good for you.

It's even suggested that changing jobs more frequently can help your career advancement. Nowhere is that more obvious than coaching.

Get a grip.
 
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There are 130 Teams in Division 1 FBS Football. — There have been 60 (SIXTY!) Coaching changes since December 2019 until December 2021. — Nearly HALF of all Division 1 FBS Football! — Some might not seem to matter, but some seem to matter A LOT! It’s even worse when you put it on paper! So, here we go:

Akron; Appalachian St ; Arizona; Arkansas; Arkansas St; Auburn; Baylor; Boise St; Boston College; Colorado; Colorado St; Duke; Florida; Florida St; FAU; FIU; UCF; USF; Fresno St; GA Southern; Hawaii; Illinois, Louisiana; LSU; LA Tech, LA-Monroe; Marshall; Memphis; Michigan St; Missouri; Ole Miss; Mississippi St; Southern Miss; New Mexico; New Mexico St; Notre Dame; Oklahoma; ODU; Rutgers; San Diego St; South Alabama; USC; UNLV; South Carolina; SMU; Temple; Tennessee; Texas; TCU; Texas Tech; UTSA; Troy; UConn; UMass; Utah St; UVA; Virginia Tech; Vanderbilt; Washington; Washington St

Whether they were fired, went to another school - or just quit!

There is NO LOYALTY in college football anymore!
Well, let's divide that into four categories:

Some of these retired. A fella's allowed to retire, right? Shouldn't be called a lack of loyalty, he's just reached the end of his career. It happens.

Some of these were let go. Can't blame a guy for lack of loyalty if he was asked to leave. Now, you could say the university showed a lack of loyalty, and I would agree with you. But on the other hand, maybe it wasn't a lack of loyalty so much as broken trust. I mean, Jeremy Pruitt was one of those 60 coaches who left one of those 60 schools, right? I wouldn't call it a lack of loyalty that caused that decision.

And then there are the fellas who voluntarily left one job to go find another. But a significant number of these were being offered a step up, to head coach from coordinator. Or to head coach of Power 5 from a Group of 5 job. These are promotions, and should be encouraged, right? It's not really a lack of loyalty when you accept a promotion and leave your old job.

Finally, there are guys who made a lateral move. They left a head coach position at one school to be head coach at another school at the same level of the sport (Power 5 to Power 5, or G5 to G5). THIS is the group you can point at and say, "Loyalty issues!"

But even there, would you seriously begrudge a guy who leaves, say, Vandy, to get a job at a place like Penn State? Or a guy who leaves a place like Rutgers to go to Bama? [the latter is fictional, but the first example really happened recently] Those may be "peer to peer" moves, but they're really promotions, too.

In fact, the landscape isn't really totally flat anywhere. Even a move from, say, Notre Dame to LSU, might be viewed by some as a step up. Brian Kelly certainly seems to think it was. Or ask Lane Kiffin if he thinks a move from Tennessee to USC is a move to higher ground.

Now, we (most of us, anyway) would not agree with Kiffin on that score. But that's another part of the complexity of this kind of loyalty-shaming: the landscape looks different depending on your perspective. Not only is there no flat terrain, the terrain doesn't even flow the same way for everyone, it's different for each of us.

In other words, the number 60 is kind of meaningless. You have to break it down and see what it consists of. And once you start breaking it down, it quickly becomes obvious that loyalty/disloyalty is far from the only dynamic involved. In fact, if one had to call it just one thing, one would probably call it career progression more than anything else.

But I do agree with you that's a relatively high volume of moves compared to most two-year periods. Would be interesting to know what the average 2-year-period has.
 
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I would say that the problem is there are not enough Sabans out there. Let’s be honest, coaches like Saban, Day, and Swinney do not have magic wands. There are probably 25-30 schools that possess the resources where any coach who is willing to study, learn, and relentlessly work like Saban could build a true championship contender. Obviously, the more programs that find coaches who are willing to do this, the less likely any one of them has a dynasty but you will find more parity at the top where it’s not just 4-5 programs that are able to lay hands on the trophy. It amazes me how many very good coaches have underperformed at places where there is really no excuse. I think too many of them see the upper echelon job with the massive buyout as a destination rather than a launching pad.
Saban must. You can’t use him in any comparisons with other coaches because he’s on a run that is unprecedented.
 
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There are 130 Teams in Division 1 FBS Football. — There have been 60 (SIXTY!) Coaching changes since December 2019 until December 2021. — Nearly HALF of all Division 1 FBS Football! — Some might not seem to matter, but some seem to matter A LOT! It’s even worse when you put it on paper! So, here we go:

Akron; Appalachian St ; Arizona; Arkansas; Arkansas St; Auburn; Baylor; Boise St; Boston College; Colorado; Colorado St; Duke; Florida; Florida St; FAU; FIU; UCF; USF; Fresno St; GA Southern; Hawaii; Illinois, Louisiana; LSU; LA Tech, LA-Monroe; Marshall; Memphis; Michigan St; Missouri; Ole Miss; Mississippi St; Southern Miss; New Mexico; New Mexico St; Notre Dame; Oklahoma; ODU; Rutgers; San Diego St; South Alabama; USC; UNLV; South Carolina; SMU; Temple; Tennessee; Texas; TCU; Texas Tech; UTSA; Troy; UConn; UMass; Utah St; UVA; Virginia Tech; Vanderbilt; Washington; Washington St

Whether they were fired, went to another school - or just quit!

There is NO LOYALTY in college football anymore!
Overall, patience has declined. Especially in SEC. And it's a vicious cycle, coaches that might otherwise workout, get fired too early, making space for more unqualified, not ready for prime time replacements, to be victims of the "Peter Principle". AD are quick to fire, so why should coaches be more loyal than bosses and alumni? I would say even if a coach is winning, 10 years is max, then HC should move on. Unless HC is an alum like Kirby or Gundy. Are most coaches mercenaries? "Yes". But with the quick trigger most ADs and lack of patience with ADs, who can blame them?
 
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Spurrier said in retrospect after his career he thought a Head Coach should not stay at a place over 7 years. I am not sure his thinking whether it caused unnoticed apathy or what. There have been some if they had used this rule it may have helped.
Phil Fulmer first 7 years 1992 to 1999. If he left after 1999 he would have been wanted by almost everybody but when he finally left in 2008 nobody significant wanted him, a few bottom-dwellers like Kansas.
The 7-year itch, I guess.
 
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Loyalty is a construct fans create to fool themselves into thinking that Coach X loves their school as much as they do.

Coaches are not fans... they are employees. If I (or you) were offered a 60-120% raise on our yearly salary, to have our mortgage paid or a new home built, to be ours free and clear... use of a personal jet x number of times a year, or any of the other ridiculous fringe benefits being offered, many (perhaps not all, but many) would jump at the chance.

If we set our fandom aside this loyalty construct is foolish and not based in reality. I love what CJH is doing with the program, but if someone offers him 100 Million$ to come coach their team he would be a fool to not take it.
 
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One constant in coaching particularly football (college and NFL) is that it usually never ends well for the coach. Most coaches are either fired or asked to leave/retire. Not many leave on their own terms.
 
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Spurrier said in retrospect after his career he thought a Head Coach should not stay at a place over 7 years. I am not sure his thinking whether it caused unnoticed apathy or what. There have been some if they had used this rule it may have helped.
Phil Fulmer first 7 years 1992 to 1999. If he left after 1999 he would have been wanted by almost everybody but when he finally left in 2008 nobody significant wanted him, a few bottom-dwellers like Kansas.
The 7-year itch, I guess.
Complacency and too much familiarity IMO.
 
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One of my son's is an engineer. He used to work for Eastman in Kingsport. He was offered a job with a company that offers a service where a big company needs help getting more profitable. There are breakdowns in their processes and procedures (losses). They hire my son's company to completely evaluate just "what's going on and how can we save money in how things are being done" to increased their bottom line (wins).

He spends weeks and weeks checking out how and what they are doing and finds ways to save millions of dollars and turn things around (more wins). By doing this, they are very happy and his employer is very happy and rewards him with a very large bonus. This looks very good on his resume' and he has just contributed to his own success and to the success of his client.

Now this is a tried and proven method of business, however, if he sucks at his job, costs the client even more money, can't save them anything, but screws up everything they are currently doing even worse, should he expect them to reward him handsomely for something he didn't achieve.

If you turn things around, we are going to pay you more and more and more and more.
If you simply suck at what you are doing, you are out of here.

People we have this thing completely backwards!
 
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There are 130 Teams in Division 1 FBS Football. — There have been 60 (SIXTY!) Coaching changes since December 2019 until December 2021. — Nearly HALF of all Division 1 FBS Football! — Some might not seem to matter, but some seem to matter A LOT! It’s even worse when you put it on paper! So, here we go:

Akron; Appalachian St ; Arizona; Arkansas; Arkansas St; Auburn; Baylor; Boise St; Boston College; Colorado; Colorado St; Duke; Florida; Florida St; FAU; FIU; UCF; USF; Fresno St; GA Southern; Hawaii; Illinois, Louisiana; LSU; LA Tech, LA-Monroe; Marshall; Memphis; Michigan St; Missouri; Ole Miss; Mississippi St; Southern Miss; New Mexico; New Mexico St; Notre Dame; Oklahoma; ODU; Rutgers; San Diego St; South Alabama; USC; UNLV; South Carolina; SMU; Temple; Tennessee; Texas; TCU; Texas Tech; UTSA; Troy; UConn; UMass; Utah St; UVA; Virginia Tech; Vanderbilt; Washington; Washington St

Whether they were fired, went to another school - or just quit!

There is NO LOYALTY in college football anymore!
Nothing new---coaches get fired every year and then it becomes all about the money. It's always been that way and it's not gonna get any better because only one team can win a game. Emphasis is on winning games---that's just the way it is.
 
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Loyalty? We're talking about 10's of millions and now 100's of millions of dollars. A man's loyalty is to God and family. For some, only family.

Also, keep in mind that some have retired, or were fired. Why would you question someone's loyalty who was terminated, or decided that it was time to hang it up?
 

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