Clawson's QB @ Bowling Green - the stats tell a story

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Looking at the stats Clawson's of the Bowling Green QB -
Tyler Sheehan
104/152 68.4% compl. 928 yds (310/game, projected 3,700 for the season) 4TDS 1INT. Against NO 1-AA competition, against teams 3 teams (incl. Missouri) that where more highly ranked than them. 2 of 3 games were on the road as well. They almost beat missouri in mizzou


- He also had as much time as Crompton to learn the system.
- He is younger than Crompton.

It may be early, but given what we have seen from Clawson's guy (as well as his track record at Richmond and everywhere else) combined with Crompton's 2009 performances, i think we may owe Mr. David Clawson an apology. It seems like we have QB problem, not a coordinator problem. Like Gary Danielson said: "any high school QB in America can run the rollouts and short passing game the Kiffin has designed for Jonathan Crompton".

Ironically, Crompton may have saved the program. It wouldn't have mattered if CPF hired Bill Walsh last year, the results would have been the same given the QB. I think we all agree that it was time for a change, some fresh blood. After the Florida game we all kind of felt that we were never going to beat them again under status quo. Thanks to JC's performances last year, we now have Kiffin who is rocking.
 
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I agree completely! I think we owe JC more of a thanks that we owe Clawson an apology though. The track record at Richmond and what Clawson has accomplished at BG shows that it was more than just a coordinator contributing to last year’s dismal record but without the performance of JC last year we wouldn't have Kiffin or half of the freshmen that we got this year. Thanks CPF for your time and the NC in '98 but we needed some new ideas and we needed to get excited about UT football again, Kiffin & Co. have brought that to us and it would not have been possible without JC. To sum up... GO VOLS!!!! :rock:
 
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FWIW.... I distinctly remember reading something last year that CPF was changing about 30% of the plays from the sideline that Clawson called. I never was totally convinced that Clawson was given free reign to do his job, but it is what it is. And to those that are probably going to want a link to where I read the 30% part, I am not going to dig thru posts to try to find it, but I am sure I'm not the only one that read it. Just for the record.... I am damn glad there has been a change in staffs. I love me some Orange Swarm!!!!
 
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I heard the 30% thing too. Granted I still don't think we'd be able to execute it, it screws you over when the HC is changing plays and half of the assistants don't buy into the system.
 
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bburger991 said:
They also have a WR whos leading the country in catches IIRC
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good point. And keep in mind Lucas Taylor was a solid experienced receiver who had caught for >1,000 yds when Ainge was passing to him. Add Roger and Briscoe (who had >400 yds each the previous yr i think) as well as emerging star Gerald Jones, Moore etc.. Oh, and the WHOLE offensive line returned. The only real change was at QB. Our current QB situation REALLY make me appreciate Erik Ainge.
 
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playljr said:
I agree completely! I think we owe JC more of a thanks that we owe Clawson an apology though. The track record at Richmond and what Clawson has accomplished at BG shows that it was more than just a coordinator contributing to last year’s dismal record but without the performance of JC last year we wouldn't have Kiffin or half of the freshmen that we got this year. Thanks CPF for your time and the NC in '98 but we needed some new ideas and we needed to get excited about UT football again, Kiffin & Co. have brought that to us and it would not have been possible without JC. To sum up... GO VOLS!!!! :rock:
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Totally AGREE!!
 
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bburger991 said:
I heard the 30% thing too. Granted I still don't think we'd be able to execute it, it screws you over when the HC is changing plays and half of the assistants don't buy into the system.
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Yeah and even a lot of the players commented in the offseason about how much easier CLK's offense was. Coaches and players didn't seem to buy into his system. Looks like Clawson had the hardest OC job in the country last year.
 
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BerkVol said:
Looking at the stats Clawson's of the Bowling Green QB -
Tyler Sheehan
104/152 68.4% compl. 928 yds (310/game, projected 3,700 for the season) 4TDS 1INT. Against NO 1-AA competition, against teams 3 teams (incl. Missouri) that where more highly ranked than them. 2 of 3 games were on the road as well. They almost beat missouri in mizzou


- He also had as much time as Crompton to learn the system.
- He is younger than Crompton.

It may be early, but given what we have seen from Clawson's guy (as well as his track record at Richmond and everywhere else) combined with Crompton's 2009 performances, i think we may owe Mr. David Clawson an apology. It seems like we have QB problem, not a coordinator problem. Like Gary Danielson said: "any high school QB in America can run the rollouts and short passing game the Kiffin has designed for Jonathan Crompton".

Ironically, Crompton may have saved the program. It wouldn't have mattered if CPF hired Bill Walsh last year, the results would have been the same given the QB. I think we all agree that it was time for a change, some fresh blood. After the Florida game we all kind of felt that we were never going to beat them again under status quo. Thanks to JC's performances last year, we now have Kiffin who is rocking.
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Clawson owes us an appology! He was terrible here, I could care less what he does at BG!

Thank God he is gone, and hope we never have to see him in orange ever again!!!!!!!! He sucked!
 
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buckeyevol23 said:
Yeah and even a lot of the players commented in the offseason about how much easier CLK's offense was. Coaches and players didn't seem to buy into his system. Looks like Clawson had the hardest OC job in the country last year.
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Many head coaches tweak play calls for 1st time coordinators . had the hardest OC job 'cause of our QB. Remember we returned every start except Ainge..

The stats are shocking. WE RETURNED EVERYONE ON OFFENSE, BUT ERIK AINGE.
With Ainge:
325/519 62.6% 3522yds 31TD 10INTs.
Tennessee wins 10 games
return ALL starters, change QB to Crompton
86/167 51.5% 889yds 4TDs 5INTs
Tennesse wins 5 games

Come on Kif' we love you, but give NS a shot!! No way it can be worst!!
 
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That whole year was suppose to be our year! we had a great OLine coming back, great Wide receiving core coming, and (although we don't want to mention fumbles) a thousand yard running back coming back who could have went in the sec. round of the Draft that year, and we can't forget the D! I mean it looked good for Vol Nation that year from top to bottom to me in 2008 thats why it really hard for the Vol Nation and any Vol fan because we had the core together to have a wonderful season and it went to hell just like that
 
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Capt Straight said:
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Clawson owes us an appology! He was terrible here, I could care less what he does at BG!

Thank God he is gone, and hope we never have to see him in orange ever again!!!!!!!! He sucked!
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No doubt he was a poor fit at UT and at the end of the day he didn't deliver. I agree with that. Parting ways was the right thing to do. But the guy turned around 2 D1-AA team from 1 win seasons to National Championship winners and is doing a solid job so far at BG. Yeah, it didn't work out here. But aside from playing the worst team in D-1 (WKU) our offense has been as bad or worst this year. Have you seen Crompton play this year? Clawson was stuck with the worst QB in the history of UT football.
 
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Vol Catdaddy said:
That whole year was suppose to be our year! we had a great OLine coming back, great Wide receiving core coming, and (although we don't want to mention fumbles) a thousand yard running back coming back who could have went in the sec. round of the Draft that year, and we can't forget the D! I mean it looked good for Vol Nation that year from top to bottom to me in 2008 thats why it really hard for the Vol Nation and any Vol fan because we had the core together to have a wonderful season and it went to hell just like that
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Exactly! If Crompton played like a 5 star (like Mark Sanchez, the other 5 star QB in his class) i was hopefull for a National Championship run... We were supposed to be good. REAL good.
 
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BerkVol said:
No doubt he was a poor fit at UT and at the end of the day he didn't deliver. I agree with that. Parting ways was the right thing to do. But the guy turned around 2 D1-AA team from 1 win seasons to National Championship winners and is doing a solid job so far at BG. Yeah, it didn't work out here. But aside from playing the worst team in D-1 (WKU) our offense has been as bad or worst this year. Have you seen Crompton play this year? Clawson was stuck with the worst QB in the history of UT football.
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Yeah I really doubt Cutcliffe would've been able to do any better last year. He'd seen Crompton for 2 years so maybe that's why he went to Duke. I'm happy for Clawson that last year's debacle didn't prevent him from getting a decent head coaching job.
 
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The reason our QB's had difficulty last year in the clawfence is simple...lack of IQ...The deer in the headlight look we have seen the past 2 years says it all.
 
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BerkVol said:
No doubt he was a poor fit at UT and at the end of the day he didn't deliver. I agree with that. Parting ways was the right thing to do. But the guy turned around 2 D1-AA team from 1 win seasons to National Championship winners and is doing a solid job so far at BG. Yeah, it didn't work out here. But aside from playing the worst team in D-1 (WKU) our offense has been as bad or worst this year. Have you seen Crompton play this year? Clawson was stuck with the worst QB in the history of UT football.
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Maybe so, but almost all our players, including O linemen, said they had to take a split second to think what they were supposed to do. I believe Clawson is successful at BG because:

He has scaled his mind numbing stuff back

His talent at that lower level is better comparision wise

His OC is calling the plays that work

He no longer wears orange.........which is a good thing!

I still say he sucks!
 
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QUOTE]The reason our QB's had difficulty last year in the clawfence is simple...lack of IQ...The deer in the headlight look we have seen the past 2 years says it all.[/QUOTE] He seems to have the same look not trying to be a smart a$$ but I am just saying :furious3:
 
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buckeyevol23 said:
Yeah I really doubt Cutcliffe would've been able to do any better last year. He'd seen Crompton for 2 years so maybe that's why he went to Duke. I'm happy for Clawson that last year's debacle didn't prevent him from getting a decent head coaching job.
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There were rumors that Coach Cut had concerns about Jonathan. I remember reading about him complimenting Stephens arm strength and Coleman's leadership. He never said anything about Crompton. Also, the rift between Ainge and Crompton was well documented.
 
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Capt Straight said:
Maybe so, but almost all our players, including O linemen, said they had to take a split second to think what they were supposed to do. I believe Clawson is successful at BG because:

He has scaled his mind numbing stuff back

His talent at that lower level is better comparision wise

His OC is calling the plays that work

He no longer wears orange.........which is a good thing!

I still say he sucks!
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fair enough. i still wish him luck.
 
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Capt Straight said:
Maybe so, but almost all our players, including O linemen, said they had to take a split second to think what they were supposed to do. I believe Clawson is successful at BG because:

He has scaled his mind numbing stuff back

His talent at that lower level is better comparision wise

His OC is calling the plays that work

He no longer wears orange.........which is a good thing!

I still say he sucks!
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He sucked, but he sucked in an impossible position. Between Fulmer on one side and our QBs on the other and the horrific OL coaching of Greg Adkins bringing up the rear, no OC could have come in last year and established a new system with any success.

The worst thing that can be fairly said about Clawson is that he did not perform heroically in adapting his system to fit the incompetence around him. And given Fulmer's reputation for meddling with his OCs, I don't even know if you can really say that.
 
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Clawson is a good coach, Crompton has proved thus far in his career to be a terrible gameday QB. I'm not sure how you fault anything on Clawson.
 
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It's interesting, but I've followed the Clawson saga more closely than I normally would have because too much about the guy pointed toward a solid offensive mind.

To me, yes part of the problem was clearly Crompton... but still think the majority of the problems were on Fulmer. He led lax practices and wasn't able to dial up the intensity in his players, and quite honestly, I will never believe he actually allowed Clawson to do his job. I think more times than not Clawson dialed up one play and Fulmer sent in what he wanted anyway. He handcuffed because he didn't trust him, and Fulmer's instincts had failed him.

At least that's my read. Best of luck, Dave, sorry Knoxville didn't work out but I'm happy with the crew we have now.
 
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The year after Clawson left his richmond program, they won the FCS national championship... and he brought the talent in. I dunno. Bring on tyler bray, or bring back E Ainge please
 
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According to Jimmy Hymans, Fulmer would still be here if he hadn't hired Clawson. . .um, then that's the best hired Fulmer made in years as far as I'm concerned. And FWIW, J. Hymans and Sports Talk is a total joke. . .on par with MorJuan Pennington.
 
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