Clawson's offense.

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Georgia defensive end Demarcus Dobbs and linebacker Rennie Curran both said it wasn't hard to stop the Vols. They claimed they knew 80 percent of the time which way the Vols were running.
Dobbs said the Bulldogs keyed on whether Tennessee lined up its fullback inside or outside, and if the tight end moved to the backfield. The alignment of tackles Chris Scott and Ramon Foster also tipped off the direction of runs.
"We knew their keys," Curran said. "We knew when they wanted to run power and when they wanted to run outside. We were just hungry and waiting. It's a lot of fun to play football when you know what's coming."

Maybe its already been posted but this is just a bit disturbing. :cray:When oh when will this end.
Go Vols!!:cray:
 
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We can't figure out our own offense but it took Georgia a week of study.

Go figure.
 
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Did anyone really think the offense would be any different under Clawson? Fulmer is so unwilling to change his football way of thinking, he just brought in a new pawn in Clawson. We haven't opened things up, but I think this is more because CPF has the leash on Clawson, not because Clawson isn't imaginative or capable. Clawson was brought here to fall on the sword for what Fulmer knew was coming this year...He'll be fired after the Alabama beatdown, a la Tony Franklin...wait and see.
 
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I've noticed UT always runs to the wide side of the field, but everybody does that at the high school level most of the time. UT only ran the ball a total of 11 times that game. I liked what UT did last year better, with a single back and a H-back instead of a FB.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Georgia defensive end Demarcus Dobbs and linebacker Rennie Curran both said it wasn't hard to stop the Vols. They claimed they knew 80 percent of the time which way the Vols were running.
Dobbs said the Bulldogs keyed on whether Tennessee lined up its fullback inside or outside, and if the tight end moved to the backfield. The alignment of tackles Chris Scott and Ramon Foster also tipped off the direction of runs.
"We knew their keys," Curran said. "We knew when they wanted to run power and when they wanted to run outside. We were just hungry and waiting. It's a lot of fun to play football when you know what's coming."

Maybe its already been posted but this is just a bit disturbing. :cray:When oh when will this end.
Go Vols!!:cray:
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Clawfence SUX BALZ
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Georgia defensive end Demarcus Dobbs and linebacker Rennie Curran both said it wasn't hard to stop the Vols. They claimed they knew 80 percent of the time which way the Vols were running.
Dobbs said the Bulldogs keyed on whether Tennessee lined up its fullback inside or outside, and if the tight end moved to the backfield. The alignment of tackles Chris Scott and Ramon Foster also tipped off the direction of runs.
"We knew their keys," Curran said. "We knew when they wanted to run power and when they wanted to run outside. We were just hungry and waiting. It's a lot of fun to play football when you know what's coming."

Maybe its already been posted but this is just a bit disturbing. :cray:When oh when will this end.
Go Vols!!:cray:
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Usually that means that there was someone tipping plays that was noticed on film. Either they were shifting their stance, setting their feet a certain way, or something else along those lines.

Playcalling wouldn't enter into the equation.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Usually that means that there was someone tipping plays that was noticed on film. Either they were shifting their stance, setting their feet a certain way, or something else along those lines.

Playcalling wouldn't enter into the equation.
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Lol, this reminds me of a story my friend would always tell me. He played OL in HS, and he said they had this big dumb redneck on their OL who was as dumb as a box of rocks. Anytime he would have to pull on a play, he would immediately leave the huddle (before anyone else) and go stick his hand down in the ground before anyone else was even in their stance or on the line or whatever.

I asked why he always did it and why the coaches never got on him about it and he said that the coaches yelled at him ALL the time about it, but he was so dumb that he could only have one thought in his head at one time, and he was so focused on the fact that he had to pull on that play that he couldn't stand around and wait or he might forget, so he had to go plant his hand in the ground and repeat to himself in his head "im pulling, im pulling, im pulling."
 
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To those who think Clawson is NOT the problem:

Our offense likely has 5 future NFL players - Arian Foster, Anthony Parker, Ramon Foster, Gerald Jones, and Brandon Warren - 6 if you include Eric Berry, who would make a great NFL receiver and should see offensive snaps before the end of the year.

Our offense is ranked 104th nationally.

Presumably, there are offenses in the 103 ranked ahead of us that field ZERO future NFL players.

This is the fault of coaching and the source of my greatest agitation with UT program in recent years.

If many smaller schools can 'scheme' their ways to greater yardage and a few scores against better defenses, why can't a school like Tennessee 'scheme' using superior players?

What would that look like? The offenses of Florida, Oklahoma, Missouri, (to a certain extent) Texas Tech, etc.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Georgia defensive end Demarcus Dobbs and linebacker Rennie Curran both said it wasn't hard to stop the Vols. They claimed they knew 80 percent of the time which way the Vols were running.
Dobbs said the Bulldogs keyed on whether Tennessee lined up its fullback inside or outside, and if the tight end moved to the backfield. The alignment of tackles Chris Scott and Ramon Foster also tipped off the direction of runs.
"We knew their keys," Curran said. "We knew when they wanted to run power and when they wanted to run outside. We were just hungry and waiting. It's a lot of fun to play football when you know what's coming."

Maybe its already been posted but this is just a bit disturbing. :cray:When oh when will this end.
Go Vols!!:cray:
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Lets stop blaming Clawson and put the fault where she lies shall we?
 
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i really don't want to blame clawson since he's still the new guy. but it's hard not to notice the predictability of his offense, especially on running plays. it also seems like more times then not tennessee's offensive drives are along the lines of run, pass, pass on 1st, 2nd, and 3rd down.
 
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raynochonspeed said:
To those who think Clawson is NOT the problem:

Our offense likely has 5 future NFL players - Arian Foster, Anthony Parker, Ramon Foster, Gerald Jones, and Brandon Warren - 6 if you include Eric Berry, who would make a great NFL receiver and should see offensive snaps before the end of the year.

Our offense is ranked 104th nationally.

Presumably, there are offenses in the 103 ranked ahead of us that field ZERO future NFL players.

This is the fault of coaching and the source of my greatest agitation with UT program in recent years.

If many smaller schools can 'scheme' their ways to greater yardage and a few scores against better defenses, why can't a school like Tennessee 'scheme' using superior players?

What would that look like? The offenses of Florida, Oklahoma, Missouri, (to a certain extent) Texas Tech, etc.
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This just in. Phillip doesn't have the greatest football mind. The problem we have is that he thinks he does. His ego is overinflated. Thats why we see the same garbage year after year. They might line up in different formations, run a little more motion,whatever its not fooling anyone. Its the same old crap we've ran for years, except this time we don't have a very good trigger man for it or a decent o-line.
 
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Well....we had a sophomore QB making his second start against a legitmate top 10 team on the road. I expected vanilla as well. We didn't have turnovers, and we scored when we had opportunities in the red zone.

On the other hand Georgia ran the same play to Mareno at least four times....we knew what they were doing too. They blocked and tackled. We did not.
 
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Lexvol said:
Well....we had a sophomore QB making his second start against a legitmate top 10 team on the road. I expected vanilla as well. We didn't have turnovers, and we scored when we had opportunities in the red zone.

On the other hand Georgia ran the same play to Mareno at least four times....we knew what they were doing too. They blocked and tackled. We did not.
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Our lines are too soft. Tennessee should have already gotten rid of their strength coach. Why have we become such a finesse team in recent years. We've morphed into something were not. We have a indentity crisis going on. I want the old vols back that would hit you in the mouth. These guys play too nice. Phil's soft and his team follows suit.
 
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Cartervol said:
Our lines are too soft. Tennessee should have already gotten rid of their strength coach. Why have we become such a finesse team in recent years. We've morphed into something were not. We have a indentity crisis going on. I want the old vols back that would hit you in the mouth. These guys play too nice. Phil's soft and his team follows suit.
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I hate to rehash arguments about Phil's personality because it generally leads to :'You don't know Phil....you can't possibly know what he is thinking'

Your post is 100% accurate. He is soft...until the losses come. Recent history tells us that he doesn't toughen up until he feels cornered. Then it is too late. You cannot be lax until things don't go your way, and then go around acting like you have PMS. It doesn't work. Kids see right through Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Same thing just happened with Tommy Bowden.

Interestingly enough, I was reading about an interview with Eric Berry and Bob Kesling. I don't know if it is accurate but here is the summary.

Bob asked Eric why his motor never stopped. Eric told him it was because his daddy taught him how to play Johnny Majors football. I have no idea if it is valid, but it was funny as heck to read.
 
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Lexvol said:
I hate to rehash arguments about Phil's personality because it generally leads to :'You don't know Phil....you can't possibly know what he is thinking'

Your post is 100% accurate. He is soft...until the losses come. Recent history tells us that he doesn't toughen up until he feels cornered. Then it is too late. You cannot be lax until things don't go your way, and then go around acting like you have PMS. It doesn't work. Kids see right through Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Same thing just happened with Tommy Bowden.

Interestingly enough, I was reading about an interview with Eric Berry and Bob Kesling. I don't know if it is accurate but here is the summary.

Bob asked Eric why his motor never stopped. Eric told him it was because his daddy taught him how to play Johnny Majors football. I have no idea if it is valid, but it was funny as heck to read.
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Eric Berry said on Vol Calls last night "I've been playing Johnny Majors, UT football since Pee-Wee football" where Eric's dad was the coach.
 
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Lexvol said:
I hate to rehash arguments about Phil's personality because it generally leads to :'You don't know Phil....you can't possibly know what he is thinking'

Your post is 100% accurate. He is soft...until the losses come. Recent history tells us that he doesn't toughen up until he feels cornered. Then it is too late. You cannot be lax until things don't go your way, and then go around acting like you have PMS. It doesn't work. Kids see right through Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Same thing just happened with Tommy Bowden.

Interestingly enough, I was reading about an interview with Eric Berry and Bob Kesling. I don't know if it is accurate but here is the summary.

Bob asked Eric why his motor never stopped. Eric told him it was because his daddy taught him how to play Johnny Majors football. I have no idea if it is valid, but it was funny as heck to read.
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Of all the critical things you can bring up about CPF the number one thing for me is...he doesn't seem to take things seriously until a dissapointing loss. It's like he totally forgets last year and makes the same mistakes perpetually. As a fan you think to yourself before game 1 every year, this is the year he coaches every game on the schedule like we just lost to Florida.
 
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Lexvol said:
I hate to rehash arguments about Phil's personality because it generally leads to :'You don't know Phil....you can't possibly know what he is thinking'

Your post is 100% accurate. He is soft...until the losses come. Recent history tells us that he doesn't toughen up until he feels cornered. Then it is too late. You cannot be lax until things don't go your way, and then go around acting like you have PMS. It doesn't work. Kids see right through Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Same thing just happened with Tommy Bowden.

Interestingly enough, I was reading about an interview with Eric Berry and Bob Kesling. I don't know if it is accurate but here is the summary.

Bob asked Eric why his motor never stopped. Eric told him it was because his daddy taught him how to play Johnny Majors football. I have no idea if it is valid, but it was funny as heck to read.
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He said that on vol calls last night. I found that rather amusing myself and sad at the same time.
 
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dan4vols said:
Of all the critical things you can bring up about CPF the number one thing for me is...he doesn't seem to take things seriously until a dissapointing loss. It's like he totally forgets last year and makes the same mistakes perpetually. As a fan you think to yourself before game 1 every year, this is the year he coaches every game on the schedule like we just lost to Florida.
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It cerainly feels that way Danno.

Back to topic (just for you Vades, GA and Freak) until this offensive line gets more physical we aren't going to get anything out of this coordinator or this offense.

Hanging it all on Clawson doesn't seem fair. Like Parcells said, it is like telling him to cook dinner without being able to buy the groceries.
 
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Phil has all the characteristics of someone thats been at one place to long.
 
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Cartervol said:
Phil has all the charateristics of someone thats been at one place to long.
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In the end whether discussing Clawson or any other thing about this football team, I think this is what we've come to. It doesn't make the JoePa loving Fulmerites feel any better but it is really the easiest, least offensive way to sum things up.

Phil had his run, and the program simply needs something a little different. It doesn't have to mean he is washed up. Just saying it is time for a little change. 17 years is a long time.
 
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Lexvol said:
In the end whether discussing Clawson or any other thing about this football team, I think this is what we've come to. It doesn't make the JoePa loving Fulmerites feel any better but it is really the easiest, least offensive way to sum things up.

Phil had his run, and the program simply needs something a little different. It doesn't have to mean he is washed up. Just saying it is time for a little change. 17 years is a long time.
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Agreed. They need to make a move and its the only intriguing thing left in this otherwise miserable year.
 
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trbonevol said:
Eric Berry said on Vol Calls last night "I've been playing Johnny Majors, UT football since Pee-Wee football" where Eric's dad was the coach.
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Thanks. I need to wipe the coffee off my screen now. There's no doubt Eric meant no harm in saying this, but in these turbulent times quotes like this will be magnified to the nth degree. Damn, that was funny. Bless Phil's heart.
 
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