Classic Week 1 Overreaction

#51
#51
99gator said:
You obviously have not followed Dobbs4Heisman's posts in various threads.

And while I am making a dig at those posts, the true counter argument is that it is very difficult to find teams that had an escape against an opponent like that who went on to have the kind of season that fans here were expecting.

Before someone mentions Florida last season with Florida Atlantic, keep in mind Florida lost 4 games. Y'all would consider it a failure if Tennessee lost 4 games this season.

I would also contend that it wasn't just the result, but how the game was played.
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Florida vs East Carolina

ECU is worse than App State and you guys had to stop them from winning on a final drive last year in week 2 I believe.
 
#52
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Florida vs East Carolina

ECU is worse than App State and you guys had to stop them from winning on a final drive last year in week 2 I believe.
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Did you not read his post, he just said they lost 4 games last year. If we end up 8-4 then most are going to say this team underachieved.
 
#53
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VersaceButch said:
It's not an overreaction. We played terrible football. No way to spin that.
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Its an overreaction if you think the season is over.

We played terrible. No way to spin it. But it's only week 1. Many teams have played worse than us in week 1 and gone on to great seasons.
 
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In 2015, Mike DeBord was hired to replace Mike Bajakian as offensive coordinator. At first the choice seemed like a good one since he was with Michigan in 1997 when they won the national championship.
However he did flop as a head coach for Central Michigan with a record of 12-34.
When he returned to Michigan as Offensive Coordinator in 2006, he led them to an 11-2 season.
He did try the NFL from 2008 to 2011 but that didn’t work out and then went back to Michigan in 2013 but this time in an administration role.
Mike DeBord was good in 1997 and pretty good in 2006 for the B1G
Phillip Fulmer was better than good in 1998 and good in 2007 for the SEC.
Fulmer was let go and walked away realizing his time had passed.
DeBords time has passed too. He gave away 4 games last year and if you watch the SEC network season in 30 from last year, you will see he almost gave away a couple of other games to Georgia and South Carolina.
He would probably do great back in the B1G against Maryland, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Penn State, Purdue, Rutgers, and Wisconsin. The others would be a challenge for him.
But we are the SEC. He will struggle with Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Texas A & M.
In the SEC he struggles more than he does great. I feel he is past his prime and the dynamics of the game have passed him by. We need to get an offensive coordinator who understands the football of 2016 not the Football from 1997 or 2006. The game has evolved in 10 years.
I love the Vols. I had to move to Michigan in 2008 and have made 4 yearly trips to Neyland Stadium each year since moving. I suffered thru Kiffin. I suffered thru Dooley. Now I am suffering thru TN having the right team, the right skills, and the right schedule to become National champions and instead I have to watch them almost lose a game to Appalachian State that DeBord couldn’t beat in 2007 with Michigan which if you notice from my above information was 1 year past his last good year.
His play calling is soft and reminds me of the Dooley years. He is trying to show we have a passing game we don’t have. He only wants to hand the ball to Hurd despite having both Kamara and Dobbs as running threats. We have 2 quarterbacks on the bench we can build our passing game on later in the year or next year but right now we need to be threat with the running game and make better calls.
I had planned on at least a 10 -2 season, expected an 11-2 season, and hoped for a 12-0 season. From the play calling I saw last night, I now am hoping for an 8-4 season with losses to Alabama, Florida, Virginia, and Georgia.
I feel we have the talent & even the head coach but until we find the right offensive coordinator we will run with Hurd on first down, run with Hurd on second down, pass to the flat on third down and punt.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Florida vs East Carolina

ECU is worse than App State and you guys had to stop them from winning on a final drive last year in week 2 I believe.
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Im not going to debate better or worse, ECU or Appy?

Im not even going to get into the apples vs oranges debate about a young team with questions everywhere compared to a team where more than half the guys are now starting for their 3rd season.

Florida went 10-4 last season.

Would you be happy with 10-4?
 
#59
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Its an overreaction if you think the season is over.

We played terrible. No way to spin it. But it's only week 1. Many teams have played worse than us in week 1 and gone on to great seasons.
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So don't view week 1 as the Gospel.

The Vols were rusty yesterday they'll need to play better for the rest of the season if they're going to have a great season. Otherwise they won't be highly lucky dodging defeat when playing Florida, Alabama, Georgia, etc.

Just about every season a team narrowly wins maybe once or twice vs a inferior opponent. I'm optimistic the Vols will be better for the rest of the season not having a 2nd rusty game.

Yep like I recall the Ducks getting embarrassed by LSU in 2011 to start their season and they still had a great season.
 
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VonVol said:
Dobbs hasn't been a real threat to run? You should maybe take the time you aren't spending watching UT football and start following the gators. You seem pretty in love with them.
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When is the last time you saw Dobbs taking off down the field for huge gains on a consistent basis? Hasn't happened since the year he gashed Sackalina in Columbia. "You seem to be pretty in love with them", No you seem to be pretty naïve thinking that Florida hasn't been beating us consistently for thirty years. DO you realize that UT has only beaten UF six times in thirty years???????? UF has won twenty. You just don't like facts do ya madam secretary?

Take off you're blinders. Unless UT gets some offensive minds in the program, they are in trouble.
 
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Flipdaddy said:
When is the last time you saw Dobbs taking off down the field for huge gains on a consistent basis? Hasn't happened since the year he gashed Sackalina in Columbia. "You seem to be pretty in love with them", No you seem to be pretty naïve thinking that Florida hasn't been beating us consistently for thirty years. DO you realize that UT has only beaten UF six times in thirty years???????? UF has won twenty. You just don't like facts do ya madam secretary?

Take off you're blinders. Unless UT gets some offensive minds in the program, they are in trouble.
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He broke off big runs pretty consistently last year against both UF and UGA, genius.

And I'm well aware of our record vs UF. Still doesn't make me wet myself over their program as you appear to be doing.
 
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Wolfeman_Vol said:
Just one game for sure. We will learn who this team is by how they respond at Bristol. Didn't help that our offense's playbook looked like you could fit it on an index card.
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A 3x5 index card - and leaving plenty of room for autographs by any number of players on the opposing team.
 
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ruger1234 said:
Great post. Go back to 2012, we beat a fairly good NC State team in the opener and most fans thought we were back.
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After that win I was drunk off the kool aid. Little did I know we started at the top of the hill and rolled down rather than the opposite.
 
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